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Al-Qaida's Iraq head defies boss over Syria fight.....
The leader of al-Qaida's Iraq arm defiantly rejected an order from the terror network's central command to stop claiming control over the organization's Syria affiliate, according to a message purportedly from him that was posted online Saturday.
The latest statement by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who heads the Islamic State of Iraq, reveals a growing rift within al-Qaida's global network. It also highlights the Iraqi wing's determination to link its own fight against the Shiite-led government in Baghdad with the cause of rebels trying to topple the Iran-backed Syrian regime.
His statement surfaced as rockets rained down on a Baghdad camp housing Iranian exiles, killing three people in the latest sign of growing unrest inside Iraq. The attack drew sharp condemnations from Washington and the United Nations.
"The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant will continue," al-Baghdadi said. "We will not compromise and we will not give up."
Al-Baghdadi is now defying that command. In his statement, he referred to "the letter attributed to Sheik al-Zawahiri," suggesting he was calling into question the authenticity of the letter. "I chose the command of God over the command that runs against it in the letter," al-Baghdadi said.
Charles Lister, an analyst at IHS Jane's Terrorism and Insurgency Center, said there are indications that Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant are operating as distinct groups inside of Syria.
Violence has spiked sharply in Iraq in recent months, with the death toll rising to levels not seen since 2008.
Iraq risks growing more deeply involved in the Syrian civil war raging across its western border. Iraqi border posts along the Syrian frontier have come under attack by rebels, and Syrian truck drivers and soldiers have been killed inside Iraq. Iraqi fighters are moving across the border, with Sunni extremists cooperating with the rebels and Shiite militants fighting alongside government forces.
Also on Saturday, an Iranian exile group living in a camp near Baghdad airport reported multiple casualties when the compound, known as Camp Liberty, came under attack from rockets.
The group, the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq, is the militant wing of a Paris-based Iranian opposition group that opposes Iran's clerical regime and has carried out assassinations and bombings in Iran. It fought alongside Saddam Hussein's forces in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, and several thousand of its members were given sanctuary in Iraq. It renounced violence in 2001, and was removed from the U.S. terrorism list last year.
Iraq's government wants the MEK out of the country, and the United Nations is working to relocate residents abroad. Several residents moved to Albania last month
In another attack, Sunni cleric Khalil al-Fahdawi was killed when a bomb stuck to his car exploded late the previous night near Ramadi, police said Saturday. The cleric has been a supporter of Sunni anti-government protests that have been raging for months and exacerbating sectarian tensions.....snip~
Al-Qaida's Iraq head defies boss over Syria fight
Here we have word how AQ is crossing over into Syria via Iraq, let alone the dispute with AQ leaders. Iraq is getting worse.....and the Shia have retaliated by Killing a Sunni Cleric.
Just like we had word of Hezbollah fighting for Assad. So to AQ in Syria and killing Syrian Shi'tes inside Iraq. As well as Going after the MEK.
Moreover none said to much about the FSA Rebels killing Iraqi border guards. One of those points that the Western media didn't want to harp on. I don't think they can get around the Death toll equaling what it was back in 2008. Nor what is going on in Yemen with that AQ Branch.
Al-Qaida's Iraq head defies boss over Syria fight.....
The leader of al-Qaida's Iraq arm defiantly rejected an order from the terror network's central command to stop claiming control over the organization's Syria affiliate, according to a message purportedly from him that was posted online Saturday.
I'm sure glad Al Quaida is decamated and no problem to us!
sarc
The more it goes on it seems we need to leave Syria alone.
Assad is a badd man,
HOWEVER The Muslim Brotherhood & Al Queda aren't any better.
Imo US needs to leave it alone,pickup whatever pieces are left.
There is one thing here that a lot of people really do not realize, and they should. The leaders of the other side get just as sick and tired of warfare as we do. And if after over a decade nothing has seriously changed, odds are it will not. And also many are starting to realize that they are actually minimalizing themselves in any future role in the government because of their intransigence and fighting now.
But you have the hardliners wanting to buck their nominal leader, and this can spell trouble. Look at what happened to the PLO when Yasser Arafat started to ease off of his constant warfare against Israel. Civil War broke out in the organization, and it largely tore itself apart as the moderates and hardliners went at each other tooth and nail (and allowed the rise of Hezbolla and Hamas, and the marginalization of what is left of the PLO, Fatah).
However, with the Taliban wanting to talk, Iran electing a more moderate leader and this, I can only hope that the last 20 years of bloody fighting in the region are finally winding down.
Frankly I have mixed feelings regarding Al Qaeda and the way it has been represented by the various media outlets in the recent years.
I feel that the constant need of the ordinary people in a clear "white vs. black" (good vs. bad) picture and the mass media's attempts to deliver on this need are playing a huge role in promoting even worse changes in the ME, such as the rise of politicized Sunnah Islamism.
Let's take the example of Syria.
We are constantly "being fed" the following narrative; On one hand, we have the good FSA guys that are fighting for democracy and freedom from oppression, and on the other hand we have the "bad guys" Jabhat al Nusra.
Hence, we've been told that we all need to support FSA so their "just" revolution would not fall into the hands of Al-Qaeda related elements.
Unfortunately, this is a very simplistic and very naive view of the forces on the ground, that ignores the huge groups of Sunnah Islamists that exist alongside FSA and are bound to get the weapons and the funds that the FSA would get. Simply because they are operating together with FSA and are better organized than the amorphous FSA.
a. My personal short analysis of the involved parties
b. The structure and organization of the Syrian opposition
While the West fights the false flag of these ultimate bad guys (Al-Qaeda), this "fight" provides a good cover for the Sunnah Islamist parties to grow and spread their influence over Syria and the ME.
This all doesn't mean that Al-Qaeda are the good guys, it simply means that the poor understanding of the ME by Western policy makers is being used by various parties to promote their own ideology (Salafi/Wahhabi - Qatar, Saudi Arabia) over the ideology of their rivals in the region (Shia -Iran) - this trend would have grief consequences for the region and for the world.
Unfortunately, the Western World cannot comprehend a simple truth, that in the ME the enemy of your enemy is not your friend.
Cheers,
Fallen.
I could swear that President Obama ran on a reelection platform that Al Qaeda was decimated, that it was on the run.
Sounds to me that Obama might have issued a stand down order of Bush's secret war against Al Qaeda.
How do you view their new change in tactics?
The first thing the Obama administration did was stop capturing high ranking members of Al Qaeda and the Taliban to gather intelligence.
You may remember that back in 2011 a CIA whistle blower was alarmed that the entire Obama campaign on it's war against Al Qaeda was relying on intelligence that was gathered during the Bush administration and the CIA said that the intelligence was drying up.
Why did Obama order the killing of Al Qaeda leaders instead of capturing them so intelligence could be gathered ? He had no place to hold them except GITMO and he wasn't going to keep filling up GITMO with more Al Qaeda.
Back in mid or late 2011 there was a leak posted on the web titled "Bush's Secret War Against Al Qaeda." Basically someone for some strange reason revealed the secret war that was being waged in Yemen and the Horne of Africa by U.S. military special operations and special forces.
It was a secret, there was no reason for me or anyone else outside the Special Operations Command to know about it.
It was suppose to be a five part article. Even Military.com started to publish the article. Those at the Coronado Amphibious Base in San Diego went berserk. Even I now know what to look for to tell if Navy SEAL's have been snooping around. After the second part was posted on the web, it was scrubbed from the internet. No one knows who was behind leaking the report but it happened when leaks were pouring out of the Obama White House after OBL was killed.
The second thing the Obama administration did, was to politicized the war against Al Qaeda.
Listing every time an UAV (droan) was used and how many were killed and who was killed. Why tell Al Qaeda ? Let them guess what happened. As we know now the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi was in retaliation of a UAV (droan) attack that killed one of Al Qaeda leaders that the Obama administration gloated about. You don't see them gloating about it today do you ?
The Obama White House revealing classified information for political gain to help Obama get reelected. Since the release of that information special forces has seen a significant increases of casualties.
And as we saw a couple weeks ago when the Washington Times reported that the CIA warned President Obama in early 2012 that Al Qaeda has expanded beyond Yemen, the Horn of Africa and northern Pakistan and can be found openly operating in almost every country in the Middle East and North Africa and are more dangerous than they were in 2008.
So behind closed doors in 2012 the CIA were asking why was Obama telling the American people that Al Qaeda was "on the run and was being decimated" when the complete opposite was happening ? Was Obama lying to get reelected ? Sure looks like it.
Good evening, APACHERAT. :2wave:
Since DC has turned into a self-serving group of people instead of serving the people who elected them, can we believe what they tell us? More and more, it looks like :no:! and people are beginning to understand that. :shock:
The first thing the Obama administration did was stop capturing high ranking members of Al Qaeda and the Taliban to gather intelligence.
You may remember that back in 2011 a CIA whistle blower was alarmed that the entire Obama campaign on it's war against Al Qaeda was relying on intelligence that was gathered during the Bush administration and the CIA said that the intelligence was drying up.
Why did Obama order the killing of Al Qaeda leaders instead of capturing them so intelligence could be gathered ? He had no place to hold them except GITMO and he wasn't going to keep filling up GITMO with more Al Qaeda.
Back in mid or late 2011 there was a leak posted on the web titled "Bush's Secret War Against Al Qaeda." Basically someone for some strange reason revealed the secret war that was being waged in Yemen and the Horne of Africa by U.S. military special operations and special forces.
It was a secret, there was no reason for me or anyone else outside the Special Operations Command to know about it.
It was suppose to be a five part article. Even Military.com started to publish the article. Those at the Coronado Amphibious Base in San Diego went berserk. Even I now know what to look for to tell if Navy SEAL's have been snooping around. After the second part was posted on the web, it was scrubbed from the internet. No one knows who was behind leaking the report but it happened when leaks were pouring out of the Obama White House after OBL was killed.
The second thing the Obama administration did, was to politicized the war against Al Qaeda.
Listing every time an UAV (droan) was used and how many were killed and who was killed. Why tell Al Qaeda ? Let them guess what happened. As we know now the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi was in retaliation of a UAV (droan) attack that killed one of Al Qaeda leaders that the Obama administration gloated about. You don't see them gloating about it today do you ?
The Obama White House revealing classified information for political gain to help Obama get reelected. Since the release of that information special forces has seen a significant increases of casualties.
And as we saw a couple weeks ago when the Washington Times reported that the CIA warned President Obama in early 2012 that Al Qaeda has expanded beyond Yemen, the Horn of Africa and northern Pakistan and can be found openly operating in almost every country in the Middle East and North Africa and are more dangerous than they were in 2008.
So behind closed doors in 2012 the CIA were asking why was Obama telling the American people that Al Qaeda was "on the run and was being decimated" when the complete opposite was happening ? Was Obama lying to get reelected ? Sure looks like it.
Well truthfully did anyone expect that the Democrats, Liberals, and those Progressives.....would actually be able to handle things overseas adequately? That they would be up anything such as dealing with AQ.
Not to sidetrack things, but to me this is not as much about "Democrats and Liberals", as it is this bunch of Democrats and Liberals. In the last 40 years, the Left Side of US politics has become increasingly run by the Braindead Left, who will drag out the bodies of Presidents Past like JFK and FDR, but completely ignore they often repeated warnings of power through strength and not bowing down to others.
Plus just the general dishonesty of "The Left" has had me disgusted for years. The amazing amount of protests against military actions by the last 2 Republican administrations suddenly becoming totally silent under the last 2 Democrat ones has left me totally distrustful of the Peacenicks.
I'm sure glad Al Quaida is decamated and no problem to us!
sarc
The more it goes on it seems we need to leave Syria alone.
Assad is a badd man,
HOWEVER The Muslim Brotherhood & Al Queda aren't any better.
Imo US needs to leave it alone,pickup whatever pieces are left.
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