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80% of homicides are committed outdoors which is where most people carry concealed weapons. So we will probably continue to see more shootings...outdoors....<snip>.....Note the Games played by the Democrats in Chicago even after an Order by the SCOTUS to re-write their Law on Conceal Carry and follow the Law in allowing people to carry[/B].
Also look at how they Harp on a good list of where people will not be allowed to carry. Which means we will see more shootings in around these places.
The NRA plays on the issue of women and voting, too..........These are the games the Democrats play here. Even while more shootings take place. Even while the Democrat plays on the issue of Women and voting and this So called fear Madigan talks about. Nothing more than playing on gender and the PC game that requires the BS about women not being tuff enough. What a joke!
One thing is for certain. They are consistent with their Failed Policies, while driving the City of Chicago and the State into the ground.
80% of homicides are committed outdoors which is where most people carry concealed weapons. So we will probably continue to see more shootings...outdoors.
Actually, gun laws in Chicago have significantly reduced the number of illegal and underground gun sales......
http://home.uchicago.edu/~ludwigj/papers/EJ_gun_markets_2007.pdf
The NRA plays on the issue of women and voting, too....
NRA seeks to highlight its 'armed and fabulous' women
Why Chicago will be one of the world's 'most economically competitive cities'
those assclowns should be stripped of having any police protections that ordinary citizens are not given
those cowardly bastards are quick to deny others self defense when citizen tax dollars give them protections the people who pay their salaries don't get
what stupidity. the vast majority of murders are committed by people who cannot legally carry or possess firearms and are perpetrated on people who cannot legally own or carry firearms.
you are not hurt in the least by a law abiding citizen carrying a concealed weapon and there is massive amounts of data supporting the proposition that such activity keeps honest people safer
Tell that to Travon Martin.
Most young people just use guns for status symbols.
"...What motivates the demand for guns in the GB/WP area? SV’s younger informants typically seek guns for the status they confer, rather than as inputs into a crime production function. With 'status goods' economists sometimes refer metaphorically to "arms races", but in the market for guns among young people there seems to be a literal arms race at work. As one young gang member notes, in the absence of having a gun: "Who is going to fear me? Who is going to take me seriously? Nobody. I’m a ***** unless I got my gun."
Just showing rather than actually firing guns is usually sufficient for the purposes of achieving the desired result. As one youth noted, You have to let other people see it without letting them see it. See, it’s all about them not messing with you. As another youth noted, "Like them slick flicks [pornographic movies], it’s all about the bulge." It never even gets that far [explicitly showing other people the gun].
Another non-gang affiliated youth notes: Thing is, see, it ain’t really about fighting or nothing, because
even if you have a group of guys and you see a group of guys, lot of times, it’s just you show em you got one, they show you they got one, and you just be on your way. It’s just like signifying that you prepared.
Even for older gang members and professional criminals who are regularly engaged in crime, gun use was typically limited to simply brandishing the weapon. For example of the 57 older gang members SV interviewed, only around 10% admitted to having fired their gun during a robbery....read....
http://home.uchicago.edu/~ludwigj/papers/EJ_gun_markets_2007.pdf
Tell that to Travon Martin.
Law abiding citizens can still buy guns legally...all they have to do is look in the phone book for a licensed dealer.uh what does that have to do with disarming law abiding people by asshole politicians
your comments prove our point-guns are useful for self defense without actually having to shoot a bad guy
Well there is that. It may make beating folks up for "disrespecting" them a bit more difficult. BTW, TM is not yet a murder victim, thus that pesky trial in still in the news.
Law abiding citizens can still buy guns legally...all they have to do is look in the phone book for a licensed dealer.
Tell that to Travon Martin.
not in Chicago for many years
This website lists 21 gun stores listed in the Chicago area...
Chicago Gun shop | Gun shop in Chicago, IL - YP.com
...and Google lists many more.
chicago area gun dealers - Google Search
Well, I happen to think Zimmerman was acting in self defense so you can stop assuming you speak for anyone else but yourself.the anti gun left often assumes that the death of a mope is always bad
many gun haters are just plain broken up when a mope is killed since the mindset of the left often involves a belief that bad "utes" are not responsible for being assholes-rather its society's fault and the mopes don't deserve being shot for something they couldn't help
Well, I happen to think Zimmerman was acting in self defense so you can stop assuming you speak for anyone else but yourself.
It proves you wrong.what relevance does that have
Are you ignorant of the fact that people who owned handguns before the ban could still keep them and that gun homicides in Chicago went up two years after the gun ban was lifted?are you ignorant of the fact that for years one could not legally own a handgun in chicago.
So what? If a law abiding citizen wants a gun they can still get one.the first two I checked are in the Greater chicago area-not the city
It proves you wrong.
Are you ignorant of the fact that people who owned handguns before the ban could still keep them and that gun homicides in Chicago went up two years after the gun ban was lifted?
So what? If a law abiding citizen wants a gun they can still get one.
You made an unsubstantiated claim and you were wrong...people can be hurt by law abiding citizens carrying a concealed weapon.then why did you bring up Travon Martin? you acted as if his death was an argument against people being armed
You made an unsubstantiated claim and you were wrong...people can be hurt by law abiding citizens carrying a concealed weapon.
No, I'm not.you are confusing gun with handgun
Most guns come from legal gun owners and are stolen or borrowed by the perps.is there any proof that the increase was due to legal gun owners?
The fact is you're a gun nut and don't speak for me.the fact is you are anti gun and do not accept the benefits of law abiding people carrying guns
:roll:you also seem to forget that chigaco violated the constitutional rights of its citizens and those who so violated the rights should have been charged with high crimes and treason
No, I'm not.
is there any proof that the increase was due to legal gun owners? Most guns come from legal gun owners and are stolen or borrowed by the perps.
The fact is you're a gun nut and don't speak for me.
:roll:
But we do ban many things that can hurt people.People can be hurt by many things, including a hammer, yet we do not ban carrying hammers only the intentional misuse of them.
But we do ban many things that can hurt people.
10 beloved banned and recalled products - Yahoo!
CPSC - CPSC Bans Urea Formaldehyde Foam Insulation (UFFI)
CPSC - CPSC Bans TRIS-Treated Children's Garments
CPSC's ban on drop-side cribs takes effect in June - USATODAY.com
U.S. Federal Bans on Asbestos | Asbestos | US EPA
...and so on.
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