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Colorado State House Bill 24-1348 (storage of guns) example of liberal idiocy (1 Viewer)

RF667799 said:
I proposed that all new construction housing be required to include a built in gun safe. I suppose that could be extended to new manufactured motor vehicles.
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This is silly. We have large parts of the country that are nutter free.

In nutter country, this makes sense.
 
noonereal said:
Someone broke into your 4000 pound metal box? What are you saying? And the box was in your car?
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the container IS my car - its a 4000 pound metal/steel container with locks and a security system

isn't that good enough precautions/safety measures against criminals ?


I say anyone having their car broken into and something stolen should be fined $500 - they're at fault for not locking their stuff up good enough. Deal ? You with me ?
 
stealthycat said:
the container IS my car - its a 4000 pound metal/steel container with locks and a security system

isn't that good enough precautions/safety measures against criminals ?


I say anyone having their car broken into and something stolen should be fined $500 - they're at fault for not locking their stuff up good enough. Deal ? You with me ?
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Rotflmao!
 
noonereal said:
Rotflmao!
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what ?

that's what the new Colorado does

you lock your car? you put your valuables out of sight? NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!! If a criminal breaks in and steals? YOU will be fined $500 for them stealing your items !!

I say we apply that to every driver/owner of every car .... why isn't that just good common sense laws ?
 
stealthycat said:
what ?

that's what the new Colorado does

you lock your car? you put your valuables out of sight? NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!! If a criminal breaks in and steals? YOU will be fined $500 for them stealing your items !!

I say we apply that to every driver/owner of every car .... why isn't that just good common sense laws ?
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A gun is not a soccer ball.

Just an FYI
 
noonereal said:
A gun is not a soccer ball.

Just an FYI
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no, its not

but its not about what's being stolen .... its about placing responsibility on the owners of being victims of crimes for not doing enough to stop from being victims of crime

we need to do that with every automobile - we could end all auto/robbery/thefts

right ?
 
stealthycat said:
no, its not

but its not about what's being stolen .... its about placing responsibility on the owners of being victims of crimes for not doing enough to stop from being victims of crime

we need to do that with every automobile - we could end all auto/robbery/thefts

right ?
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Guns are in a category all their own
 
noonereal said:
Guns are in a category all their own
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its targeting gun owners - discrimination, far above and beyond what's expected and its putting the fines/punishments on the victim of a crime

only idiot Democrats would come up with such stupid laws
 
noonereal said:
Get over it. We have a nutter problem. It needs to be addressed.
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agreed - criminals breaking in and stealing stuff

which this law does nothing to prevent or stop

typical idiot Democrat lawmakers
 
noonereal said:
Mine and all other rational actors.
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No. I mean try in some way to state the criteria by which you determine guns are in a category all by themselves. An ad hominem and appeal to your own authority is a stupid argument.

If you can't do it, just retract your claim and say so.
 
RF667799 said:
No. I mean try in some way to state the criteria by which you determine guns are in a category all by themselves.

If you can't do it, just retract your claim and say so.
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They ****in kill people. That is why they are made
Jesus Christ, what is so hard about this?
 
noonereal said:
They ****in kill people. That is why they are made
Jesus Christ, what is so hard about this?
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You mean they can be used to kill people.

That doesn't place them in a category all their own. They are accompanied in that category by a great many things.

Retract your claim. You're wrong.
 
stealthycat said:
50 years min prison sentence for stealing a gun anywhere, anytime

there - the cost (prison) is now far far greater than the reward (gun) and it would stop almost all gun thefts IMO

liberals would NEVER go for this though, would they ?
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In order to enact punishment people have to be caught. So we still are not catching them.
 
CLAX1911 said:
In order to enact punishment people have to be caught. So we still are not catching them.
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but we'll catch those damn victims of theft and hit them with $500 fines !! that's REALLY going to stop criminals !!!
 
OrphanSlug said:
At the risk of making a real mess of this, but please hear me out, this all reads like an attempt to lower the number of guns stolen from vehicles by telling the gun owner to take more precautions with a gun unmonitored in a vehicle.

I may not agree with all that is being proposed by the bill as worded but I do understand the idea of addressing the unwise idea of leaving a gun in a condition were theft of it is not that difficult.

Unsure why this is so controversial.
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Because the government doesn’t have the authority to tell you how you can store your own private property, on your own property. ESPECIALLY a constitutionally protected right such as firearms.
 
OrphanSlug said:
If I follow you, that would mean an unmonitored gun would have the same value under the law as grandma's purse left behind in the car. Unsure the law agrees with that, but I am not super familiar with Colorado law.

I still disagree this is placing blame from criminal to gun owner, but it is asking the gun owner to lock up gun left behind in a car somewhere. BTW, I have no problems with harsher sentences for those who break into a car and steal a gun.

Application of this law becomes a concern. I only see a few options for this to be enforced. After the fact, or some officer walking by an empty car but seeing a gun on the seat.
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This law can’t be enforced. It’s completely unconstitutional. The government can’t tell you where to keep your gun, on your own property or in your own property.
 
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