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Coffee Party USA

You keep saying that the coffee party is simply opposed to the tea party. Can you offer some evidence of that?

I already did in the link provided in the Original Post.

I'll grant that it is, in only one respect: The tea party is about politcal divisiveness and has become a tool of demagogues. The coffee party is opposed to this kind of political confrontation.

Ok your turn for evidence. Evidence of:

Tea Party = a tool for demagogues

The Crapiccino Party is totally for political confrontation - again, read the link I provided in the OP, which directly refutes your statement. It sort of sounds like your making up stuff because you don't know.

If the coffee party takes a stance on any political issue, I will drop my support for the movement post haste. I am not interested in another moveon.org (of which I am a supporter). I want an organization which will truly foster political engagement from all Americans. Such an organization can only improve organizations such as the Tea Party movement and Moveon.org, because it will improve the dialogue.

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Their member forums. I'd expect your resignation post-haste.


I believe the Coffee Party is only about this, and you are one of those people who are accusing it of being something else... without evidence. Democrats leading the way on trying to get such an organization formed is not evidence.

Again, read the OP. The link is sourced, evidence is so far damning. If you've got contrary evidence.. please post it.
 
We talked about this before:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...vic-brews-tastier-choice-than-tea-partys.html

It's a marginal organizations started by a career liberal activist who worked for the NY Times. By definition, populist movements are at odds with intellectual discussion, so this is either going to be a tiny group of people having serious discussions over $6/cups of fair trade coffee or a large group of people bitching about Republinazis and marching in the streets.


Some live support for your comment "tiny group of people" but it seems the counter march is/was Republinazis, but only about 30 of them.

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To be fair, they're still starting out, but it will be a short lived group. They have no passion, they have no soul, they just want PROGRESS(ivism).
 
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Purpose is needed even for the most ignorant and feeble of mind.
"We can still remember the golden days before Heisenberg, who showed humans the walls enclosing our predestined arguments. The lives within me find this amusing. Knowledge, you see, has no uses without purpose, but purpose is what builds enclosing walls."

Apparently they do so far. Unlike the coffee stupidity - they've not only survived the media and detractors, but have done so as a grass roots group that are now in every state. Here's mine in my state.
Teabaggers have entered an autocannibalization phase, different groups are trying to excommunicate each other. It's quite a mess.

The CRAPPUCCINO party needs some George Soros and Obama support to stay afloat, but hey, it's a free country. And yes, I want to be on record for using the first derogatory term "Crappuccino party", as Crappuccino was used for Kopi Luwak coffee, of which a Malaysian monkey the Palm Toddy Cat, eats the green coffee pods and ****s them out, making a very rare and expensive coffee.
Lightning Wikipedia search, my friend.

In this case, the Crappiccino party digests Progressive nonsense and craps out Democrat / Progressive nonsense.
Wait...so it creates what it ingests...that makes no sense.
 
"We can still remember the golden days before Heisenberg, who showed humans the walls enclosing our predestined arguments. The lives within me find this amusing. Knowledge, you see, has no uses without purpose, but purpose is what builds enclosing walls."

"Stupid is as stupid does."


Teabaggers have entered an autocannibalization phase, different groups are trying to excommunicate each other. It's quite a mess.

We're talking reality not your wet dreams. But even if they do eat each other - can't be worse than Democrats right now falling over each other or dropping out, being forced out, or being investigated for ethics/criminal activity. Is there anyone Democrats won't throw under the bus? Why would it be any different with the Crapiccino leftists?

Lightning Wikipedia search, my friend.
Damn... so hard to be original and timely. Still, how totally fitting: Crappuccino party. Great minds think alike! :rofl

Wait...so it creates what it ingests...that makes no sense.
It ingests Progressive nonsense and ****s out Crappuccino party nonsense. Or were you talking about the monkey?
 
The Crapiccino Party is totally for political confrontation - again, read the link I provided in the OP, which directly refutes your statement. It sort of sounds like your making up stuff because you don't know.

Soooooo, because Ms. Park is an avid Democrat and Liberal, the Coffee Party must be a Liberal movement? A movement such as this has to be started by someone, and chances are that someone is going to be a passionate person of some political persuasion or another. I would have been delighted if a Conservative had started talking about engagement, dialogue and civility and would have joined up just as readily.

According to what I am reading, she is against the venom and divisiveness that is part and parcel of what the Tea Party movement has become. If you like that venom, if that divisiveness makes you tingle all over, then of course you're going to see Ms. Park as the enemy. It just makes it easier for you that she is a liberal. You wouldn't have known what to do if she had been a conservative.


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Their member forums. I'd expect your resignation post-haste.

B*** S*** . There are posts there all over the political spectrum. Yes, some liberals will try and turn the nascent movement into another liberal one. I also see some libertarian posts there from those who are trying to harness these people for their own agenda. One of those sides (or yet another) may succeed. If they do, I will certainly be disappointed.

I get the feeling that you won't be. Disappointed, that is. I wonder why that is? I get the feeling that you don't want engagement, dialogue or civility.

Again, read the OP. The link is sourced, evidence is so far damning. If you've got contrary evidence.. please post it.

The OP (original post in the thread) links to the Coffee Party website, where you see things like the following:

They're professionals, musicians and housewives. They're frustrated liberal activists, disheartened conservatives and political newborns. They're young and old, rich and poor, black, white and all shades of other

The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation in government.

I'd love to see some ultra conservative leaders join up with the Coffee Party. In fact, unless they do, the movement will not stay about what it claims to be about. If Ms. Park (and other leaders) don't reach out to some of these leaders, the whole thing will fail to meet expectations.

In fact, I would encourage you, and the rest of the conservatives who have posted in this thread to participate. You can leave at any time, of course. Why not try and do a genuine effort to make Ms. Park live up to the claims she is making?

In order for us to deal with the big problems we are facing, we need to make the best set of decisions we have probably ever made as a nation, other than when we were founded. I don't believe it can be accomplished by the Democrats forcing decisions through Congress and onto a disengaged populace.
 
I would have been delighted if a Conservative had started talking about engagement, dialogue and civility and would have joined up just as readily.
Yes, conservatives giving up their views and principles for the sake of being agreable would, I think, be very delightful to be a part of by liberal / Progressive socialist types. I could say the same thing were the situation reversed.

According to what I am reading, she is against the venom and divisiveness that is part and parcel of what the Tea Party movement has become. If you like that venom, if that divisiveness makes you tingle all over, then of course you're going to see Ms. Park as the enemy. It just makes it easier for you that she is a liberal. You wouldn't have known what to do if she had been a conservative.

Yep, I'm all for the venom, divisiveness that is against Progressive and far-left mantra, policy, views, you name it. You don't get noticed by being meek and quiet and while the meek may inherit the earth, the rest of us run things until then.

To quote Chris Matthews, "My — I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often.”

B*** S*** . There are posts there all over the political spectrum. Yes, some liberals will try and turn the nascent movement into another liberal one. I also see some libertarian posts there from those who are trying to harness these people for their own agenda. One of those sides (or yet another) may succeed. If they do, I will certainly be disappointed.

Ok so who exactly has to take a side - name them. Or will it take some notarized dissertation certified by experts?

I get the feeling that you won't be. Disappointed, that is. I wonder why that is? I get the feeling that you don't want engagement, dialogue or civility.
Civility has it's place, like here. But sometimes civility doesn't have it's place. Let's look at 8 years of non-civility from Liberals, liberal activists and Progressives. Funny, how all of a sudden calls for civility. No - I think there's a time and place for everything - and when it comes to Progressive ideologues talking softly, claiming they just want to get along --- that only seems to happen when Progressives are controlling Washington. Wonder why that is?

I'd love to see some ultra conservative leaders join up with the Coffee Party. In fact, unless they do, the movement will not stay about what it claims to be about. If Ms. Park (and other leaders) don't reach out to some of these leaders, the whole thing will fail to meet expectations.

If you hear or see of any - let me know. Somehow I don't think Rush Limbaugh or George Will are going to be making any appearances.

In fact, I would encourage you, and the rest of the conservatives who have posted in this thread to participate. You can leave at any time, of course. Why not try and do a genuine effort to make Ms. Park live up to the claims she is making?

Somehow, I don't want to be a part of a clearly orchestrated sham. I guess were I weaker, lazier and lonley individual who really doesn't care about my country - it might seem interesting. You know, an opportunity to get laid.

In order for us to deal with the big problems we are facing, we need to make the best set of decisions we have probably ever made as a nation, other than when we were founded. I don't believe it can be accomplished by the Democrats forcing decisions through Congress and onto a disengaged populace.
I agree with this last bit. The rest... pretty much something I'd scrape off the bottom of my shoe. Way to end strong.
 
Yes, conservatives giving up their views and principles for the sake of being agreable would, I think, be very delightful to be a part of by liberal / Progressive socialist types. I could say the same thing were the situation reversed.



Yep, I'm all for the venom, divisiveness that is against Progressive and far-left mantra, policy, views, you name it. You don't get noticed by being meek and quiet and while the meek may inherit the earth, the rest of us run things until then.

To quote Chris Matthews, "My — I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often.”



Ok so who exactly has to take a side - name them. Or will it take some notarized dissertation certified by experts?

Civility has it's place, like here. But sometimes civility doesn't have it's place. Let's look at 8 years of non-civility from Liberals, liberal activists and Progressives. Funny, how all of a sudden calls for civility. No - I think there's a time and place for everything - and when it comes to Progressive ideologues talking softly, claiming they just want to get along --- that only seems to happen when Progressives are controlling Washington. Wonder why that is?



If you hear or see of any - let me know. Somehow I don't think Rush Limbaugh or George Will are going to be making any appearances.



Somehow, I don't want to be a part of a clearly orchestrated sham. I guess were I weaker, lazier and lonley individual who really doesn't care about my country - it might seem interesting. You know, an opportunity to get laid.

I agree with this last bit. The rest... pretty much something I'd scrape off the bottom of my shoe. Way to end strong.

Well, then you are clearly part of the problem, in so many ways that I simply don't know where to start, so I'll just end with that.
 
Well, then you are clearly part of the problem, in so many ways that I simply don't know where to start, so I'll just end with that.

And glad to be part of the problem... ready and willing and able. Have some Brawndo - you'll feel better. :2wave:
 
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That in and of itself makes me happy.


Yes. Free thinking liberty minded Americans are a threat. We get it. :roll:


As if the teabaggers needed help in that area.



Do you think being vulgar makes you sound intelligent?





Where are all the libs that falsley claimed the tea party was crafted by FOX? here we have one being crafted by left wing media types, and yet, where is hazlnut? DD? ADK?


:roll:
 
Yes. Free thinking liberty minded Americans are a threat. We get it. :roll:






Do you think being vulgar makes you sound intelligent?





Where are all the libs that falsley claimed the tea party was crafted by FOX? here we have one being crafted by left wing media types, and yet, where is hazlnut? DD? ADK?


:roll:


Waiting for talking points.


j-mac
 
I bet Code Pink will be there. By the same standards that some apply to Tea Partiers, this makes all attendees of the Coffee Party a bunch of moronic drones.

And if that doesn't happen will you commit suicide? :mrgreen:
 
Monday, September 27, 2010
The True Measure of Just How Far The Coffee Party Has Fallen
Almost everyone is jumping all over the Coffee Party for the pathetic turnout at its national convention last weekend. Go ahead, kick the dead horse if you will.

But they all have missed one irrefutable measure of just how far the Coffee Party has fallen since it was launched to great media fanfare and glory.

This blog now gets more traffic than Coffee Party | Wake Up and Stand Up, as demonstrated by Alexa's measurement of "reach."

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I remember getting hollered at for mocking the Coffee Party astro turf.

Seems, as usual, I was correct in my assessment of the "movement".
 
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