(CNN) US tomato prices could jump as soon as Monday

[ncguy]

Average Price: Tomatoes, Field Grown (Cost per Pound/453.6 Grams) in U.S. City Average

All fresh field grown and vine ripened round red tomatoes. Includes organic and non-organic.

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so you missed the point. lol
maybe re-read my post for better understanding? the issue in my post isn't the price of tomatoes, its the entire context of overall rising prices, so your chart is..irrelevant.

 

[ncguy]

So some things are going up, and others are going down?


No, it's ok. Prices increase over time. Old people get big mad about it. But that's the way things have gone for hundreds of years.

We're not too upset, generally. As long as prices go up less than under Biden, we have enough perspective to appreciate that improvement.

so you still dont get it.
your post was stupid because its not just tomato prices going up.
i doubt you'll ever get it. or maybe you're intentionally making stupid posts?

 

[RF667799]

I feel exactly the same way. I have found that pork is also my new "steak". Some center cut pork chops can be found for a decent price, and if cooked/seasoned properly can be a good substitute for a beef steak.

I have also found myself purchasing more pork sausage in recent years.

I like pork steaks better than chops generally. I'm not the greatest cook, and chops are pretty easy to overcook, and it doesn't take much of that to dry them out.

 

[Chomsky]

Beef is indeed high, and has been for some time. I limit my consumption to a good steak now and then, but it is damn sure a little disconcerting to pay as much for a piece of raw meat as you would have paid to have it cooked and served with sides in a steakhouse not that long ago.

Luckily though, there's a local store where I buy either unseasoned ground pork, or their "homemade" pork sausage for 2.99 a pound. Works really well for most things I would have normally used hamburger for.

I usually don't complain about prices. They go up. It's part of life.

But to pay 6-8 bucks a pound for hamburger did set my head back, a bit. With the kids now flying the coop, and smaller family meals often for just two, it's not that I can't afford it if I want. But like you said, paying so much higher than recently remembered - bugs me.

There were times when I passed on steak for hamburger. But I never before considered passing on hamburger!

BTW - Want to get a serious price shock? When was the last time you bought a bucket of fried chicken from a franchise chain? If it's been a while, you might be very surprised. I was.

 

[Chomsky]

I feel exactly the same way. I have found that pork is also my new "steak". Some center cut pork chops can be found for a decent price, and if cooked/seasoned properly can be a good substitute for a beef steak.

I have also found myself purchasing more pork sausage in recent years.

Even sausage has gotten relatively high though, too. Many sausages (Italian, Brats) by me are now 5 & 6 bucks a pound. Affordable? Relatively. But a lot higher than just recently.

Here's my solution, in the image below. 10 bucks for 3-1/2 lbs. Made by Johnsonville. Quite good by commercial standards, with a good shelf-life. Unfortunately, they're seasonal (but freeze well).

*image courtesy of ilovecostco.com

 

[Chomsky]

So some things are going up, and others are going down?


No, it's ok. Prices increase over time. Old people get big mad about it. But that's the way things have gone for hundreds of years.

We're not too upset, generally.

As long as prices go up less than under Biden, we have enough perspective to appreciate that improvement.

Oh geezus, Mouse. Inflation under Trump is not substantively different than what Biden left him.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Oh geezus, Mouse. Inflation under Trump is not substantively different than what Biden left him.

We are talking overall. Biden had an average inflation rate over his term; if it was lower or higher under Trump, people can comment on that.

And if Trump’s inflation rate is not different than Biden's, then why the **** are people like @ncguy complaining?

 

[Metric Mouse]

so you still dont get it.
your post was stupid because its not just tomato prices going up.
i doubt you'll ever get it. or maybe you're intentionally making stupid posts?

Did you think that prices would not rise over time?

Is that what you thought?

Why would anyone think this?

 

[Chomsky]

We are talking overall.

Biden had an average inflation rate over his term; if it was lower or higher under Trump, people can comment on that.

And if Trump’s inflation rate is not different than Biden's, then why the **** are people like @ncguy complaining?

Yes, "overall" there's scan difference from what Biden left Trump.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Yes, "overall" there's scan difference from what Biden left Trump.

But not overall for Biden's leadership.

So people should be happy that we are not returning to Biden's average, which would be quite higher than now.

And if we are at the same rate Biden left, then that's a huge win for consumers because it is lower than the few years before, and not higher than the few months before. So either there should be no comment, or people should be excited, because some people warned that there would be massive inflation already, and they were dead wrong?

Was that your point?

 

[Chomsky]

But not overall for Biden's leadership.

So people should be happy that we are not returning to Biden's average, which would be quite higher than now.

And if we are at the same rate Biden left, then that's a huge win for consumers because it is lower than the few years before, and not higher than the few months before. So either there should be no comment, or people should be excited, because some people warned that there would be massive inflation already, and they were dead wrong?

Was that your point?

My point was Trump's inflation numbers aren't substantively different than what Biden left him.

 

[MTAtech]

so you missed the point. lol
maybe re-read my post for better understanding? the issue in my post isn't the price of tomatoes, its the entire context of overall rising prices, so your chart is..irrelevant.

The same is true for cars.

Japan has struck a deal — and is left facing a tariff of 15%, compared with an average of 1.6% pre-Trump. Why is that so bad? Because in combination with Trump’s other tariffs this deal actually leaves many U.S. manufacturers worse off than they were before Trump began his trade war.

Let me explain. Trump has imposed a 25% tariff on all automotive imports, which includes imports from Canada and Mexico that have substantial U.S. “content” — that is, they contain parts made in America. Japanese cars generally don’t. But now cars from Japan will pay only a 15% tariff while cars from Canada and Mexico pay 25%.

So, we are now in a situation where cars whose production doesn’t create U.S. manufacturing jobs will pay a lower tariff rate than cars whose production does.
In addition, Trump has also imposed 50% tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum, which are of course important parts of the cost of a car. Japanese manufacturers don’t pay those tariffs.

If this tariff policy sounds stupid, that’s only because it is.

 

[MTAtech]

Even sausage has gotten relatively high though, too. Many sausages (Italian, Brats) by me are now 5 & 6 bucks a pound. Affordable? Relatively. But a lot higher than just recently.

Here's my solution, in the image below. 10 bucks for 3-1/2 lbs. Made by Johnsonville. Quite good by commercial standards, with a good shelf-life. Unfortunately, they're seasonal (but freeze well).

*image courtesy of ilovecostco.com

Beef

Trump used to complain about bacon prices under Biden. Now, bacon is higher.

 

[MTAtech]

We are talking overall. Biden had an average inflation rate over his term; if it was lower or higher under Trump, people can comment on that.

And if Trump’s inflation rate is not different than Biden's, then why the **** are people like @ncguy complaining?

Yes, right after the pandemic there was a surge in inflation, peaking in 2022. That subsided relatively quickly.

 

[Metric Mouse]

My point was Trump's inflation numbers aren't substantively different than what Biden left him.

And that's bad for Trump, because Biden's numbers were terrible.

 

[MTAtech]

And that's bad for Trump, because Biden's numbers were terrible.

Tell us how bad the Biden economy was.

From The Economics:
The American economy has left other rich countries in the dust. Expect that to continue, argue Simon Rabinovitch and Henry Curr
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2024-10-19
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2024-10-19

 

[Metric Mouse]

Yes, right after the pandemic there was a surge in inflation, peaking in 2022. That subsided relatively quickly.

So you are trying to argue that Trump's inflation is low, and not a big deal?

 

[MTAtech]

So you are trying to argue that Trump's inflation is low, and not a big deal?

We currently have low inflation, although it ticked up. What is worrisome is future inflation due to tariffs.

 

[ncguy]

So you are trying to argue that Trump's inflation is low, and not a big deal?

the issue is future inflation, and the unnecessary cause of it. Tariffs are stupid, but trump is an economic moron, so there's that.

 

[Metric Mouse]

the issue is future inflation, and the unnecessary cause of it. Tariffs are stupid, but trump is an economic moron, so there's that.

Inflation is at a multi year low, and is transitory.

Raising taxes always increases prices; many people want lower taxes, and so your view will be more popular.

 

[ncguy]

Inflation is at a multi year low, and is transitory.

Raising taxes always increases prices; many people want lower taxes, and so your view will be more popular.

"multi year low"? but..increasing.

raising taxes always increases prices? need some proof of that.

 

[Metric Mouse]

"multi year low"? but..increasing.

For sure. It could get as bad as under Biden.

raising taxes always increases prices? need some proof of that.

You think raising taxes lower prices?

Why, because Trump told you so?

Can you find any data that suggests raising taxes lowers prices?

 

[ncguy]

For sure. It could get as bad as under Biden.


You think raising taxes lower prices?

Why, because Trump told you so?

Can you find any data that suggests raising taxes lowers prices?

your obsession with biden is weird. we aren't coming out of a global pandemic, are we?

can you prove your claim or not?

 

[Metric Mouse]

your obsession with biden is weird. we aren't coming out of a global pandemic, are we?

It's only fair to compare inflation and economies from one president to their nearest administration.

and this one is doing better, according to all metrics. Which is awesome! Hopefully the next administration does even better!

can you prove your claim or not?

Corporate Taxes Inflate Retail Prices and Hurt Consumers - The American Consumer Institute Center for Citizen Research

www.theamericanconsumer.org

https://tax.kenaninstitute.unc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/corptaxprice.pdf

Surely you have evidence that increasing taxes lowers prices?

 

[ncguy]

It's only fair to compare inflation and economies from one president to their nearest administration.

and this one is doing better, according to all metrics. Which is awesome! Hopefully the next administration does even better!

Corporate Taxes Inflate Retail Prices and Hurt Consumers - The American Consumer Institute Center for Citizen Research

www.theamericanconsumer.org

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.uschamber.com/taxes/how-higher-corporate-tax-rates-would-affect-your-local-economy&ved=2ahUKEwiL9dLMveWOAxUphu4BHeJNO48QFnoECFAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2KTOev0p08fpNFZ-P6MYb2

its "fair" to compare post covid worldwide inflation to now? lol. not even close.

that link proves that taxes ALWAYS raise prices? can you quote that word "always" and "taxes" for me?