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(CNN) Man accused of attacking TV reporter, saying ‘This is Trump’s America now’

Relsdm said:
Not at all. I supported there right to assemble but that is the extent of it. When any assembly interferes with others right, for example stopping traffic, or destroying property, I believe force should be used to end it.
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I think you're minimalizing the symbolism and intent of J6, though. There was at least a subset that was there specifically to interrupt the transfer of power.

That is what causes such grief for many of us.

And when Trump tacitly allowed the attack to continue, after having promoted the event, we became grieved even further. No President has acted as such.
 
Pyrite said:
Post #180


Of course, there was a threat of trump's staying in power as the unelected incoming POTUS. That was the point of forcing Congress to stop certifying the votes.

That was the point of trump's sending his violent mob to the Capitol - which he knew was closed - and telling them to fight like hell to stop the steal.

That was why trump's thugs attacked and wounded 140 police officers.
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Exactly. Trump promoted the attackers to halt the transfer of power. That was the hideousness of it.
 
Relsdm said:
Hmmm, if they stopped it how did the election get certified?
It was delayed not stopped.

Jan 6 was bad. It is by no means what the left tries to claim that it was.
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It was an attempt to prevent the winner of the election from being seated.

It was an attempt to keep the loser in power.

It was the first election in American History that didn't have a peaceful transfer of power.

That is what the left claims it was.

Those are facts.
 
Pyrite said:
I don't read other posters' articles in hopes of finding something that may or may not substantiate a point.

YOU do the work of copying and pasting whatever excerpts YOU want to bring here.
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LMAO, just like a liberal. Always wanting someone else to do the work for them.
 
Corbell said:
Think of all the times you dismissed valid concerns from teh right, by calling the person a name, like "Racist".


All that angry and frustration, has been building. YOu did realize that, right? Or did you think that you could just piss all over people and they would just take it forever adn nothing would ever blow back on you?
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Where is the pity towel??? :rolleyes:
There is a YUGE difference between name calling and repeated attacks on someone. Did the Reporter call the Jarhead a racist name???
I get making excuses but there is a difference between generalized name calling and a very real attack on someone.
No one got pissed all over.... ✌️
 
Relsdm said:
I provided link to report from house.gov website. Let me guess since it was not from the biased Jan 6th committee it is false?
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Your link, which is dated September 20, 2024, quotes a statement made by pro-trump, anti-Jan-6-committee rabid-right Republican House Represenative Barry Loudermilk. No evidence is provided that supports the crap Loudermilk spews.

Btw, NGs from other states cannot enter DC unless and until specifically authorized by the Executive Branch. Guess what permission/authorization was delayed on Jan 6?
 
Helix said:
Don't put any political stuff on your house or car. We're in a different dynamic now.
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I'm a proud American. The men in my family before me took-up arms to defend our Constitution. I'm surely not going to let anyone stand in the way of my free association or free speech.
 
Relsdm said:
Hmmm, if they stopped it how did the election get certified?
It was delayed not stopped.

Jan 6 was bad. It is by no means what the left tries to claim that it was.
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You don't see your fellow Americans' problem with a violent delay to our transfer of power?
 
Chomsky said:
I think you're minimalizing the symbolism and intent of J6, though. There was at least a subset that was there specifically to interrupt the transfer of power.

That is what causes such grief for many of us.

And when Trump tacitly allowed the attack to continue, after having promoted the event, we became grieved even further. No President has acted as such.
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I am in total agreement on the optics of Jan 6th.
There was no doubt some in attendance felt being stupid was a good course of action. It was a very small percent of those that were in attendance.

Could Trump have done something different? Definitely, never seen any situation where hindsight was not 20/20.
Everyone wants to overlook the fact that he did request resources to protect live and property.
 
Relsdm said:
There was never a threat of Trump staying in power. If the Army showed up to keep him in power, then yeah I would have a different opinion on that day.
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Sounds like you arent familiar with the false elector scheme which the delay/disruption and Pence's cooperation would have enabled.

Relsdm said:
Anyone who claims that what took place was a threat to this country doesn't have a lot of faith in the country to begin with. This country has been attacked and the White House burned to the ground but there was not a change in power. Keep pushing your narrative it resonates well with the uninformed.
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Nothing uninformed about my post...who can be assured of faith in the country when a mob attempts such a thing and millions of Americans still deny its intent? And when the WH was burned...that was a structure, not Congress, not POTUS. Your attempts at analogies are pretty "loose."

Relsdm said:
Was it wrong? 100%
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Correct
Relsdm said:
Was it going to lead to anything? 100% no
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A less informed response. ⬆️ Esp. since it absolutely has "led" to a great deal of change and division already.
 
trixare4kids said:
Lol, yeah, like Trump had a thing to do with the actions of the asshole mentioned in the O/P.

Your Trump fear mongering is hilarious though.
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Several of us - including myself - quoted the assailant's very words, Trix. That you deny is your call, not ours.
 
Chomsky said:
Very much so!



Please cite the above.
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Chomsky said:
Sounds about right to me, unfortunately.

Wait 'till the seriously Red states start getting vigilantes thinking they're "deputized" by Trump to go banging on doors.
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Maybe that is not how you meant your comment but that is how I took it.
 
Corbell said:
All of them. Decades of any attempt to discuss our interests being dismissed with an insult.

That's what I see when I see this.

What do you see?
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Yikes dude. A couple days ago, you were trying to justify Matt Gaetz's child sex trafficking because some boomer feminists were supposedly mean to you 30 years ago. Are there any potential crimes that you *don't* view as justifiable payback against your perceived political opponents? 😲

Is this how you want to spend your remaining years? Stewing in resentment over political events from decades ago, and using them to justify real-world violence today?
 
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Lursa said:
A less informed response. ⬆️ Esp. since it absolutely has "led" to a great deal of change and division already.
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Did the President change in January of 2021?
Hmmm, guess it didn't lead to much.
 
Relsdm said:
I am in total agreement on the optics of Jan 6th.
There was no doubt some in attendance felt being stupid was a good course of action. It was a very small percent of those that were in attendance.

Could Trump have done something different? Definitely, never seen any situation where hindsight was not 20/20.
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I respect that we are in agreement in the above. Thank you.

Relsdm said:
Everyone wants to overlook the fact that he did request resources to protect live and property.
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I'm not that familiar with this point directly above, so I can't comment on it.

However Trump's delays on the day of the event, along with his earlier sending the crowd over, for many of us causes a cloud over Trump.
 
Chomsky said:
Several of us - including myself - quoted the assailant's very words, Trix. That you deny is your call, not ours.
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So when a killer says that God told him to kill, it is God's fault?
 
Relsdm said:
Did the President change in January of 2021?
Hmmm, guess it didn't lead to much.
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Doesnt minimize the attempt or the intent...yet you continue to do so...why? Is a burglar innocent if he gets caught in the act?

And I did name a couple of things that have changed which IMO are significant...and you ignored them. IMO, the actions of the Marine in the OP article were encouraged and fed by the division in this country that that violent, failed attempt created. It led to how many people convicted of felonies and their consequences? I bet they think it lead to 'a lot'. Many states changed their voting laws because of it. So, there's some more.
 
Corbell said:
Think of all the times you dismissed valid concerns from teh right, by calling the person a name, like "Racist".


All that angry and frustration, has been building. YOu did realize that, right? Or did you think that you could just piss all over people and they would just take it forever adn nothing would ever blow back on you?
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In other words, MAGAts/rightwingers are thin-skinned whiney entitled bitches. You think minorities of all stripes haven't been called way worse?
 
Relsdm said:
So when a killer says that God told him to kill, it is God's fault?
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There's no accounting for the intelligence or weakmindedness or susceptibility for such actions, is there? To your point, there are those that do kill in the name of God and he doesnt even exist. But they believe. It's obvious that DonOld generates a level of blind obeisance and ludicrous levels of rationalization in some Americans. Like those on Jan 6 that believed his Big Lie. 🤷

And some of those over the top rationalizations for the Marine in the OP, acting in defense of his new CiC's behalf, are more evidence right here in this thread.
 
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