(CNN) Democrats’ flip in California concludes final unresolved US House race

[Ikari]

Yes, because we ALL know that gerrymandering is ONLY done in Republican-led states, right? LOL!

Didn't think you needed a link to prove the sky is blue.

Anyways, for your edification, I found one from a non-conservative source. Enjoy!

How Democrats learned to stop worrying and love the gerrymander

Republicans tilted the House map. Democrats are clawing their way back.

www.vox.com

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The grinding battle over congressional redistricting is drawing to a close. And, contrary to expectations that the process would result in big Republican gains, the final House of Representatives map may well improve somewhat for Democrats.

The main reason is gerrymandering — redrawing of district lines for partisan benefit. Republicans built on their existing gerrymanders to try to expand their House advantage, but Democrats fired back even more powerfully with gerrymanders of their own.

Basically, Democrats saved themselves by resorting to a tactic they’ve previously denounced as not only unfair but downright unethical — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called gerrymandering “unjust and deeply dangerous” in 2019. But in the absence of national reforms banning the practice, refusing to gerrymander would have meant effective unilateral disarmament, ceding the GOP a significant advantage in the battle for control over the House.

Meanwhile, Democratic gerrymanders in states like New York and Illinois pulled the median district nearly 3 points leftward, so it was actually close to neutral. (Joe Biden’s margin in the median district would have nearly matched his national popular vote margin in the 2020 presidential election.) But an aggressive gerrymander in GOP-controlled Florida could soon shift things right again, if approved. Other state court rulings could shift things further, particularly in New York, where Democrats’ gerrymander is under scrutiny.

Red states have gerrymandering as well. I wish we could find a better, national way of drawing districts from independent sources rather than politicians and end gerrymandering in all States, regardless of R or D.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Which is exactly what would have happened if the democrats had won control of the house, regardless of margin. As I would expect from either side.

Nothing new. The 2 parties cooperating for the good of the people is nonexistent. It is party first and to hell with the people.

There is likely to be much less gridlock with the upcoming session. Obviously, with a small margin that becomes more difficult, unless a few democrats cross over on some of these issues.

There is never any gridlock when it comes to what the rich and powerful want.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

I think Trump will get some pushback from the Senate in his nomination, but the main problem will be his 100 Day Agenda in the House.

My feelings are the people elected Trump and gave him a majority congress and senate to do what he said he will do.
If nothing gets done again someone should and very well will answer to the people in upcoming elections. It has become more and more clear that our representatives and the president better start working for the people not the 2 corrupt parties.

Due to Trump picking 3 House members for his Administration, initially the GOP will have no votes to spare with a scant 218-216 majority (remember there's no tie-breaker). This will get slightly better as those seats eventually get filled, but they will be vacant for the initial push. And that initial push is critical, as political momentum coming out of the election wains as the session progresses, and before you know it the midterms are on the horizon.

tl;dr I'm expecting substantive - but incomplete - Senate Confirmation support, and big problems in House Legislative support.

The fact remains that any bill that receives zero support from one of the parties is generally not good for the country or the people. The only other answer is neither party gives a damn about the people only the party. Either way the people lose.

 

[SuperDS77]

Red states have gerrymandering as well.

Yes, of course. I was responding to @Linc who seemed to be under the impression that this was only happening in GOP controlled states i.e. the North Carolina situation. Nothing to do with you, Linc has yet to respond to the links he asked for.

I wish we could find a better, national way of drawing districts from independent sources rather than politicians and end gerrymandering in all States, regardless of R or D.

I am fine with the winners of the elections drawing the lines as there really are no "independent" sources. Never should there be national sources doing the redistricting. It is anathema to a constitutional republican form of government.

In MI a ballot initiative (which I did not support) was passed (2018 I think) that created a commission, ostensibly with democrats, republicans and independents and citizens. Guess what? People on both sides still upset albeit for different reasons.

 

[Ikari]

Yes, of course. I was responding to @Linc who seemed to be under the impression that this was only happening in GOP controlled states i.e. the North Carolina situation. Nothing to do with you, Linc has yet to respond to the links he asked for.

I am fine with the winners of the elections drawing the lines as there really are no "independent" sources. Never should there be national sources doing the redistricting. It is anathema to a constitutional republican form of government.

In MI a ballot initiative (which I did not support) was passed (2018 I think) that created a commission, ostensibly with democrats, republicans and independents and citizens. Guess what? People on both sides still upset albeit for different reasons.

I feel we could probably make decent algorithms to draw districts. Probably just need a math nerd and a computer nerd to do it.

 

[SuperDS77]

I think Trump will get some pushback from the Senate in his nomination, but the main problem will be his 100 Day Agenda in the House.

Due to Trump picking 3 House members for his Administration, initially the GOP will have no votes to spare with a scant 218-216 majority (remember there's no tie-breaker). This will get slightly better as those seats eventually get filled, but they will be vacant for the initial push. And that initial push is critical, as political momentum coming out of the election wains as the session progresses, and before you know it the midterms are on the horizon.

tl;dr I'm expecting substantive - but incomplete - Senate Confirmation support, and big problems in House Legislative support.

Probably a pretty close to accurate prediction. Although the early majority will be 217-215 with the 3 house members leaving, obviously still scant.

 

[Parker_Chess]

Margins this small means Obamacare is safe

 

[Linc]

Yes, of course. I was responding to @Linc who seemed to be under the impression that this was only happening in GOP controlled states i.e. the North Carolina situation. Nothing to do with you, Linc has yet to respond to the links he asked for.

Your links are garbage.
At no time did I say GOPs were the only ones.
That’s just dishonest posting by you.

I am fine with the winners of the elections drawing the lines as there really are no "independent" sources. Never should there be national sources doing the redistricting. It is anathema to a constitutional republican form of government.

In MI a ballot initiative (which I did not support) was passed (2018 I think) that created a commission, ostensibly with democrats, republicans and independents and citizens. Guess what? People on both sides still upset albeit for different reasons.

Until you look at the remaps, you know nothing, especially the ratio of GM between D’s and R’s.

 

[Linc]

I feel we could probably make decent algorithms to draw districts. Probably just need a math nerd and a computer nerd to do it.

Tell him how bad the ‘commission’ remaps are in your state, as well as AZ, for two.