Clinton outspending Trump by $116 million on ads

[gdgyva]

Clinton.

Trump started out with an inherited fortune, has run his businesses into bankruptcy multiple times, has left his creditors holding the bag on numerous occasions, frequently refuses to pay vendors for services rendered, and now does little more than slap his name on things.

The little he's said about his tax policy would drive federal revenues straight into the ground, mostly by giving the rich yet another round of huge tax breaks.

He also clearly has no idea how manage national debt obligations. He doesn't understand, for example, how a government will suffer serious consequences if it tries to renegotiate its debts (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/u...l-debt-get-creditors-to-accept-less.html?_r=0)

Clinton, for all her flaws, at least understands that a government has to meet its obligations, and that the entire global financial system depends on the US paying its creditors on time, and in full.

Trump is a total freaking disaster.

One question

Have you ever managed or ran a large company?

Refusing to pay vendors for "services rendered" is not an unusual thing

Sometimes the work is not done to specs

Sometimes it wasnt done on time

Sometimes it needs repairs or fixing after the job is completed

All of these things are fairly regular occurrences....especially on large building projects

So renegotiating, or holding payment on vendors is the way to get things fixed

We settle with vendors all the time....last year we had flooring put in one of our stores....

project was late, and not up to what the owner wanted....we held payment until we settled on 70% of the original contract price

i just thought you might want to know that is basic business practice

 

[Ikari]

given he has about the same chance as you of winning, who of the two who can win is more likely to be fiscally responsible?

Gary Johnson.

I reject your artificial restrictions on who I should vote for based on who you think is going to win.

But let's see. A candidate who can launder money like the best of them, extort money, raise money, etc. vs another candidate who has driven multiple businesses into bankruptcy...who is more "fiscally responsible"? King of Debt? I don't think so.

 

[TurtleDude]

No wonder the utterly self-infatuated scumbag feels necessary to declare that if he loses, it is proof that the election is rigged.

“I’m afraid the election is going to be rigged, I have to be honest,” the Republican nominee told supporters at a Monday rally in Columbus, Ohio. Appearing on Fox News later that night, Trump elaborated in his usual evidence-free way: “Nov. 8, we’d better be careful, because that election is going to be rigged. And I hope the Republicans are watching closely or it’s going to be taken away from us.”

Trump's "rigged" comments are the most dangerous thing he's said yet.

Donald Trump: The election in November will be rigged | On Air Videos | Fox News

Sadly, that kind of delusional self-defense by way of lying about one's perceived political enemies has been drilled into the base's heads since 2007.



Even worse, his political advisor/buddy feels the need to threaten civil war:

If you can’t have an honest election, nothing else counts. I think he’s gotta put them on notice that their inauguration will be a rhetorical, and when I mean civil disobedience, not violence, but it will be a bloodbath. The government will be shut down if they attempt to steal this and swear Hillary in. No, we will not stand for it. We will not stand for it.

Trump's "rigged" comments are the most dangerous thing he's said yet.

Roger Stone on The Milo Show: How Trump Can Fight Voter Fraud - Breitbart

Worse, the moron thinks that since Trump is leading florida in August, that's proof that if he loses it in Nov, it's a fix:

“I think we have widespread voter fraud, but the first thing that Trump needs to do is begin talking about it constantly,” Stone said. “He needs to say for example, today would be a perfect example: ‘I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud. If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.’”




No doubt Trump's minions will simultaneously say that the 2000 election was not "stolen" but this one was....simply because they lost (we pray).

Clintonistas were denying there was any rigging of the game in favor of Hillary over Bernie too

 

[Top Cat]

Just like Clinton begged the banks and hedge funds.

Yeah but they said yes. The Koch Brothers told Donald to **** off.

 

[TurtleDude]

Gary Johnson.

I reject your artificial restrictions on who I should vote for based on who you think is going to win.

But let's see. A candidate who can launder money like the best of them, extort money, raise money, etc. vs another candidate who has driven multiple businesses into bankruptcy...who is more "fiscally responsible"? King of Debt? I don't think so.

its called washing your hands so you can whine no matter which one of the two win

 

[Hatuey]

So you'd rather have someone who openly lied to the FBI about emails [cleared of wrong doing], got kicked off the Watergate committee for lack of integrity, who enabled her sexually predatory husband for years [false], and who has a false front called the Clinton Foundation to funnel money from outside negotiations with our enemies [unsubstanciated]?

Thanks for playing

 

[Surrealistik]

Yeah but they said yes. The Koch Brothers told Donald to **** off.

Because they know Clinton will disregard the popular will (and her own platform/campaign promises if necessary) to deliver; the Koch Brothers don't know what the **** Donald will do.

 

[Ikari]

its called washing your hands so you can whine no matter which one of the two win

Nope. It's called voting for the best candidate, the one that best reflects my political platform; rather than voting for evil and promoting the demise of the Republic.

But go ahead and keep voting Republocrat and pretending that things will change by doing so.

 

[Chomsky]

that is true but as a betting person, I choose him on the chance he won't suck. Hillary will and insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Obama's 8 years have sucked and Hillary is more likely to continue that suckage than the bad hair day is

Actually, I think you've described the upcoming vote well:

"Is a large enough set of the country disenfranchised enoughby the status-quo, to take the risk of Donald Trump"?

I say with as badly damaged a candidate as HRC, it's going to be close!

I also think my original guy, Ole' Joltin' Joe, would likely prevaile if he ran.

 

[ludin]

Polarized, partisan politics and blind allegiance to the Republocrat party.

Polarized, partisan politics and blind allegiance to the democrap party.
wow that was a great argument you had.

 

[TurtleDude]

Actually, I think you've described the upcoming vote well:

"Is a large enough set of the country disenfranchised enoughby the status-quo, to take the risk of Donald Trump"?

I say with as badly damaged a candidate as HRC, it's going to be close!

I also think my original guy, Ole' Joltin' Joe, would likely prevaile if he ran.

JOe Biden is a goof ball and has the IQ of a mollusk

 

[Chomsky]

Both are beyond basic decency.

How'd we get to this dark place?

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816. ME 14:384

 

[Ikari]

Polarized, partisan politics and blind allegiance to the democrap party.
wow that was a great argument you had.

It's how we actually got to the place we are at currently. Polarized, partisan politics and our blind allegiance to the Republocrat party.

Sorry if facts offend you.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Clinton outspending Trump by $116 million on ads - CNNPolitics.com



I'm no fan of Trump, but who sounds better to run a more fiscally responsible government and manage the national debt?

There is a huge anomaly here. The figures include spending in the primaries where Trump got a free $3 billion ride from the news media.

Just a note, but Donald was within three points the day he slagged the soldier's mother, CBC radio just reported that Hilary has climbed to a nine point lead.

Trump is the master of moving on to the next astonishing claim, he's going to need to outspend Hilary to over come the stupid **** he keeps getting into. I just did a scan of US newspaper headlines and it seems Trump is being blown out of the water as his own Republicans are starting to distance themselves. But even that is its own weirdness, they disown what he says, but continue to support him.

 

[ludin]

Actually, I think you've described the upcoming vote well:

"Is a large enough set of the country disenfranchised enoughby the status-quo, to take the risk of Donald Trump"?

I say with as badly damaged a candidate as HRC, it's going to be close!

I also think my original guy, Ole' Joltin' Joe, would likely prevaile if he ran.

RCP average is not 4.4 in clitons favor. unless trump gets his act together
which I doubt he is going to lose.

the shock and awe nonsense is over with he needs to move into down to business
mode.

Clinton should be the easiest person in the world to beat and he isn't trying.

 

[Nilly]

Clinton outspending Trump by $116 million on ads - CNNPolitics.com

I'm no fan of Trump, but who sounds better to run a more fiscally responsible government and manage the national debt?

Easy. Hillary.

 

[ludin]

There is a huge anomaly here. The figures include spending in the primaries where Trump got a free $3 billion ride from the news media.

Just a note, but Donald was within three points the day he slagged the soldier's mother, CBC radio just reported that Hilary has climbed to a nine point lead.

Trump is the master of moving on to the next astonishing claim, he's going to need to outspend Hilary to over come the stupid **** he keeps getting into. I just did a scan of US newspaper headlines and it seems Trump is being blown out of the water as his own Republicans are starting to distance themselves.

see post above this one RCP average is 4.4
still a tie but trump keeps shooting himself in the foot.

the day before he was ahead by .4 and then she was ahead by .4

now she is up 4.4.

 

[ludin]

It's how we actually got to the place we are at currently. Polarized, partisan politics and our blind allegiance to the Republocrat party.

Sorry if facts offend you.

It is how we got here. Polarized, partisan politics and blind allegiance to the democrap party.
Sorry if facts offend you.

 

[Chomsky]

JOe Biden is a goof ball and has the IQ of a mollusk

Malarkey! :lamo

I didn't expect that response, but will counter by suggesting that will not seem so when standing on the debate stage with Trump.

Did you see the way he dispatched the current Spkr of the House in the debates last cycle?

A lot of people love the guy - that can't be said of HRC or Trump.

 

[Ikari]

It is how we got here. Polarized, partisan politics and blind allegiance to the democrap party.
Sorry if facts offend you.

I don't think you actually understood what I wrote. In fact, your response seems indicative of that polarized, partisan politics that blinds one to reality.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Hillary owes 1,000 special interests big time favors if she wins.

Trump owes no one.

Again, which do you trust more to manage a federal budget?

Ah, let's see...a woman who made herself a millionaire or a stupid bigot who has bilked the public through such scams as "Trump University", "Trump Steak" and all the rest where he simply ****ed his partners and went bankrupt - poof! no more debt. That's why "he doesn't owe anyone".

Great way to run a country. If you liked 2008 and the $7 trillion hand out to bankers, you are going to love Trump.

 

[Chomsky]

RCP average is not 4.4 in clitons favor. unless trump gets his act together
which I doubt he is going to lose.

the shock and awe nonsense is over with he needs to move into down to business
mode.

Clinton should be the easiest person in the world to beat and he isn't trying.

:lamo

Funny.

But well said!

 

[DVSentinel]

How's that working out for you? I have Netflix but i am thinking of adding another subscription. I'm just afraid I would end up paying more for similar content.

I have amazon prime because I bought a Fire TV box to watch net content. (was difficult to do in the past while using Linux). Hulu has a lot of current episodes, however, they are only up for a limited time. Amazon and Netflix usually only carry full seasons with no current season content.

Hulu has the largest selection of anime.
Netflix, with a few exceptions has some really good Netflix produced shows. (unless your into gay soft porn, avoid Sense 8)
Amazon prime has a lot of exclusives from HBO/Cinemax. Also, if your willing to pay the rental cost, you can rent pretty much any movie that amazon sells as DVDs.

Since broadcast TV is mostly shows for propagandising Liberal/socialist views, I don't miss anything as I wouldn't watch most of what is currently put on.

 

[Top Cat]

Polarized, partisan politics and blind allegiance to the democrap party.
wow that was a great argument you had.

I am often partisan. I truly dislike Hillary. She was not my choice. My vote is not for her it is a vote against Trump.

 

[TurtleDude]

Malarkey! :lamo

I didn't expect that response, but will counter by suggesting that will not seem so when standing on the debate stage with Trump.

Did you see the way he dispatched the current Spkr of the House in the debates last cycle?

A lot of people love the guy - that can't be said of HRC or Trump.

Biden is what you get when your entire life has been spent sucking on the public dime and never doing anything other than being a politician. When being a politician is the best job you can get or have had, that is not good.