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Clinton campaign paid to 'infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House servers to link Trump to Russia: Durham

rahl said:
There is no "sedition" crime. There is seditious conspiracy, which has a 5 year SOL as well. But just for fun, lets pretend the SOL hasn't run out yet. How does seditious conspiracy apply here? What evidence to you have?
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No one cares which seditious conspiracy these folks take the fall for, as long as it's ASAP.

How Judge Amit Mehta Argued It Plausible that Trump Conspired with Two Militias - emptywheel​

As Amit Mehta lays out in his opinion rejecting Trump's motion to dismiss three lawsuits against him for his role on January 6, Trump did more than just incite violence. After riling up his supporters, he told them to make an unpermitted march to the Capitol.
www.emptywheel.net
February 21, 2022
emptywheel says:
February 21, 2022 at 10:11 am
Yup. I will deal with that and the Alex Jones reference separately. It’s what my nod to Mehta’s knowledge of non-public information was about.
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RedAkston said:
www.foxnews.com

Clinton campaign paid to 'infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House servers to link Trump to Russia, Durham finds

Lawyers for the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to create fake information to bring to government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia, a filing from Special Counsel John Durham says.
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Ouch, this is going to leave a mark. The only questions remaining are if Hillary knew in advance, why didn't she know and did she push for this?

To the surprise of no one, this story isn't on CNN or MSNBC at the moment.
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Wow this sure didn't age well and in a very short time.
 
Athanasius68 said:
The tower meeting of course occured.
We know nothing was actually received.
We also know there has never been a claim it was about the DNC emails
The assumption seems to have been it was about the Clinton emails, and even that is sketchy.
Nothing has ever been shown that Trump etc. al was dealing with Russian intelligence.
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Ooh, I can play the We Know game too!

We know that Trump murdered a hundred hookers and buried them in the White House rose garden.

We know that Melania Trump is a man.

We know that gravity is a corporate conspiracy to keep stairway builders flush with money.

We know that Venus is in orbit around our moon.

So many untrue things can be given the weight of truthiness by prefacing them with "we know..."
 
RedAkston said:
Ahh, attack the source and ignore the content. Is John Durham not credible enough for you?

This should disturb anyone with a sense of decency and morals. It doesn't matter whish "side" engaged in this, this is disturbing. No one should be OK with anyone doing this, period.
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Yes it is.

It's fox so called news who isn't credible to me or durham.

Is durham's word credible enough for you?

www.businessinsider.com

John Durham says 'members of the media' may have 'misinterpreted' claims he made in a recent court filing

Durham said he's not at fault if "members of the media have overstated, understated, or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained" in the filing.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
Athanasius68 said:
As per Mueller, Mifsud most certainly made such a denial.
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www.justsecurity.org

Word-Searchable Version of Mueller Report

Please find below Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller’s Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election. Word-searchable PDF versions: Volume I – Criminal Conspiracy (PDF) Volume II – Obstruction (PDF) Word-searchable Sribd versions: Word-searchable Mueller...
www.justsecurity.org www.justsecurity.org

Begin at page 90.
 
soap box said:
I noticed all that, and the flimsy nature of Durham's case make me think this is a big whataboutism so that trump supporters will think he's innocent.
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Yes, and also Durham will be able to count on lucrative sinecures on Fox "News" or similar.
 
Athanasius68 said:
So perhaps did Sanders...
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Sanders doesn't want any help from the Russians. No truly patriotic American politician wants or accepts favors from the Russians. The cooperative symbiotic relationship between the Trump Campaign and the Russians was unprecedented in American election campaign history.
 
TomFitz said:
www.justsecurity.org

Word-Searchable Version of Mueller Report

Please find below Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller’s Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election. Word-searchable PDF versions: Volume I – Criminal Conspiracy (PDF) Volume II – Obstruction (PDF) Word-searchable Sribd versions: Word-searchable Mueller...
www.justsecurity.org www.justsecurity.org

Begin at page 90.
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Page 90 refers back to the January 2017 interview.

Page 193 reinforces what the articles I linked to earlier state-- no mention of emails.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Sanders doesn't want any help from the Russians. No truly patriotic American politician wants or accepts favors from the Russians. The cooperative symbiotic relationship between the Trump Campaign and the Russians was unprecedented in American election campaign history.
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The hacked emails showed that the DNC was in the tank for Mrs. Clinton
 
Atomic Kid said:
Sanders doesn't want any help from the Russians. No truly patriotic American politician wants or accepts favors from the Russians. The cooperative symbiotic relationship between the Trump Campaign and the Russians was unprecedented in American election campaign history.
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"Russia, if you're listening....".
 
justoneman said:
So I name a potential crime and then you say there is nothing in the present indictment that supports it. Round and round. No thanks.
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You have yet to give a specific name to this potential serious crime. What would it be? That is the part is going round and round.
 
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Cardinal said:
Ooh, I can play the We Know game too!

We know that Trump murdered a hundred hookers and buried them in the White House rose garden.

We know that Melania Trump is a man.

We know that gravity is a corporate conspiracy to keep stairway builders flush with money.

We know that Venus is in orbit around our moon.

So many untrue things can be given the weight of truthiness by prefacing them with "we know..."
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Well, if you wish to claim that Trump buried 100 hookers in the Rose Garden, it kind of has to be proven.
Much like the claim that Trump received information from Russia at the Tower meeting.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Sanders doesn't want any help from the Russians. No truly patriotic American politician wants or accepts favors from the Russians. The cooperative symbiotic relationship between the Trump Campaign and the Russians was unprecedented in American election campaign history.
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BTW-- we have known for about five years now that Mrs. Clinton sought out, and received, 'favors' (in the form of political dirt), from Russia

Meanwhile, Mr. Trump received nothing.

So there you go.
 
Athanasius68 said:
The hacked emails showed that the DNC was in the tank for Mrs. Clinton
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They didn't show any such thing. The DNC enacted the rule changes Bernie wanted in the 2019 primaries and the result was the same. But you are entirely missing point. Which is nothing new. The point is that truly patriotic Americans don't climb into the bed with the Russians for the furtherment of their own personal gain and to the detriment of their country. That's is what's called making a deal with the devil.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
They were not missing. They were deleted. That's not "missing".

I'm really starting to wonder if you get paid for these posts and, if so, how much.

Of which there was no evidence.

Yeah, nothing you said here changes what I've said. You are literally making things up which do not even address what I said.

NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT EMAILS BETWEEN MIFSUD AND PAPAD!!!

Maybe if I put it in caps, you'll stop posting this lie. Mifsud told PapaD that Russia had dirt on Clinton. Stop talking about emails.

Again, stop talking about emails.

You're the only person talking about emails.

You are literally posting obvious lies about common knowledge things. What even is your point?
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Yes-- that is right. Mifsud told Papadapolous Russia had information about Russia.
Nothing was said about that information being in the form of emails.
 
Athanasius68 said:
BTW-- we have known for about five years now that Mrs. Clinton sought out, and received, 'favors' (in the form of political dirt), from Russia

Meanwhile, Mr. Trump received nothing.

So there you go.
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LOL! I think whoever "we" here doesn't seem to know anything at all. So what 'favors' did Clinton seek and receive from her best bud Putin? Who everyone knows simply adores her. :rolleyes:
 
Athanasius68 said:
Yes-- that is right. Mifsud told Papadapolous Russia had information about Russia.
Nothing was said about that information being in the form of emails.
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So freaking dishonest of a post.

Stop talking about emails. We're talking about the fact Russia approached the Trump campaign with "dirt" on Clinton, dirt which was hacked from the DNC. Trump Jr. knew this when he took the meeting in June, a day after DCLeaks went live.
 
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