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Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research


You see, this is all part of the deflection attempt to :spin: this dossier story away from "legitimate under cover investigative work by a hired domestic entity" to "they hired Russian operatives to spy on Trump - so there's your 'collusion' right there". Notice, however, that not one media outlet has claimed in their hit piece that Fusion GPS hired a Russian investigator. Each article makes clear that although the DNC/Hillary campaign picked up the investigation where GOP candidates left off, the DNC didn't hire the investigator/PI directly. They hired Fushion GPS who in turn hired Mr. Steele, the British investigator who went to Russia/Soviet-block countries (current and/or former) to follow leads there. Yet, story after story has tried to :spin: things as if Team Hillary hired Russian spies to make up the dossier.

It's all an attempt to deflect and people here are buying it hook, line and sinker.
 

Something missing from your little narrative: the female was a lawyer engaged in lobbying on behalf of Fusion GPS and the other was a direct employee of Fusion GPS. It was a sting. It failed.

What we might want to find out is who put them up to that little operation.
 

But you just alleged that these incredible allegations were not only included in that warrant, but I presume the basis for warrant(s) that were granted. That implies that the FBI counterintelligence team and the FISC are complete frauds, all of them knowingly participated in a lie. If your cited author knows this stuff, presumably the FBI know also, and the FISC, but none raised objections to it.
 
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Good job aborting your argument.

No, you posted links to prove the dossier was used in FISA warrants. Those links say the info presented to the FISC was corroborated. Now you say, well, ignore THAT part of the link and just assume the FBI and the FISC both knowingly participated in a fraud, a lie, to obtain warrants for some deep, government-wide conspiracy to....something Trump.

The part you put in red was an acknowledgment that we have about 87 or so different agencies and sub agencies doing intelligence work, and I have no idea who or how that info got corroborated, as the links YOU posted allege.
 
The bigger problem for me is that at some point it's status was moved from propaganda to a legitimate report and was used as the basis for a bunch of warrants and investigations.

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Oh absolutely.
I don't think there's much chance that whoever applied for the warrants ever bothered to verify what they were using to justify the request ... or worse, they did and used it anyway.
Every day it continues to look more obvious that there are/were certain elements embedded in Intel whose motivations are politically influenced. How's that for circumspection.

Another point that likely will need to be made more than once around here is that whoever the Republican donor turns out to be, he/she dropped FUSION before FUSION hired Steele and thus before his dossier was created.
 
from the WaPost article linked to in post #9`

There are times when a failure by one person to read all of a linked web page has caused others to find 'interesting' stuff.

None of those agencie stated for a fact that that happened.
 
Everybody in the media talked widely about the dossier garbage like it was an unexposed truth, and none of them bothered to question it in the slightest. The lying Left-leaning media now have egg all over their faces.
 
What I find interesting from your link is this quote taken from the last paragraph...


...particularly the sentence in bold.

It wasn't but a few months ago that seemingly the whole world was up in arms about Don Jr. meeting with a Russian lawyer for the purposes of obtaining dirt on Hillary. In the case of Fusion GPS, they paid a guy(Steele) to go to Russia and dig up dirt on Trump. Not only did he work directly with agents of the Russian government, he PAID THEM for the information.

So is the moral of the story it's perfectly fine to solicit agents of a foreign government to sabotage your opponent as long as you pay someone not connected with the campaign to do the soliciting?
 

LOL! You say that like the counter argument isn't that the Trump Campaign conspired with the Russians to hack the US elections! :lamo
 

I posted an article that proved the dossier was used in FISA warrants and then went on to ASSUME that that meant that there was some veracity to the dossier. You latched on to the baseless assumption.
 

A cash payment for information is different than the type of payment that got manafort and Donald jr. In trouble.

Donald jr. And manafort discussed the Magnitsky act (“adoptions”) and that has more damning implications
 
Yes, he is, but the DNC didn't hire Christoper Steele. It hired Fusion GPS who in turn hired Mr. Steele.



They took a report from a foreign entity, contracted or not by a us entity is irrellevant, they knowingly used this false information from a foreign source and with the help of the media used it to affect the election.



There is more evidence that hillary engaged foreign entities than trump. by far.
 
Double standard noted.

How do you conclude that?

Let's get this straight...

The DNC/Hillary campaign did not, Did Not, DID NOT hire a foreign agent to spy on Donald Trump. They hired - retained the services of - a domestic investigative agency - Fusion GPS - to continue doing the investigative work it was doing previously when hired by another client - Jeb Bush! (It's funny how that's not being talked about, isn't it?) You may think it's the same thing, but it's not.

What I'm really finding interesting here is how desperately folks (and the media) are trying to play off the "foreign entity" angle. So, let's explore why that is, shall we?

The reason yourself and others continue to push this "hired a foreign agent" angle is you desperately want the appearance of "tit-for-tat". Since Team Trump was so willing to work with foreign elements to dig up dirt on his opponent, you feel it only fitting to immerse Hillary in that same dirty, cesspool element. "Oh, look...Trump wasn't the only one who worked with foreign spies." When you pull back the veil of lunacy, you realize the DNC/Hillary used (as in accepted the continued services of) a third-party investigator who though a foreigner, is a national from an allied country; towit, Christopher Steele, British investigator, sub-contracted by Fusion GPS. The storyline that's being pushed, however, is Hillary Clinton funded the investigation that produced the Russian dossier on then GOP candidate-Trump. The narrative then pushed is "the dossier was concocted...a bought and paid for lie" where the opposite appears to be true in some respects.

In short, the media (Trump Administration) can't kill many aspects of the dossier or even the dossier entirely, so they'll just push a new narrative, i.e., Trump wasn't the only one working with foreign agents or even the Russians for that matter. Again, notice the headlines and how they read. That should tell you all you need to know. It's all about deflection, folks. Don't believe the hype!

Most of the stories covering this issue don't even claim that the DNC/Hillary worked with Russian operatives. They simply support what many of us already knew: That the DNC/Hillary campaign picked up the tab to continue the investigation on Donald Trump, Sr. that was already well underway by one of Trump's GOP rivals.

So, if it was "common practice" as Trump claimed for politicians to conduct opposition research on their political opponents, why are you folks on the Right getting so up in arms over this "late to the party" revelation?


(Referring to the portion in bold...) Really? How'd that turn out for her? Considering that Buzzfeed didn't report on the dossier until January 10, 2017, I'd say her hired investigator was slacking at his job. :mrgreen:

And of course Hillary engaged foreign entities. She had to! It was her job as Secretary of State. :doh
 
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If the dossier is real, it may have more potential to blow up the trump administration.

The way the dossier was obtained and who paid for it has the potential to blow up the FBI, the Obama administration, and the Clinton campaign. Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan is now putting his weight behind the subpoena sent to the FBI by Nunes. If Rosenstein doesn't act on it shortly on behalf of the DOJ and the FBI, he is in contempt. His job is to investigate, not stonewall.

Byron York: Speaker Paul Ryan backs House subpoena on Trump dossier, slams FBI 'stonewalling'

 

But the only thing that was offered up as payment for said information was money.

Trump on the other hand may have offered a quid pro quo of removing the Magnitsky act sanctions.
 

And what if the information of the dossier is revealed to be true? What if trump is essentially a Russian puppet.
 
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