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Climate Scientist Rejects ‘Climate Change’ As ‘A Quasi-Religious Movement Predicated on An Absurd ‘Scientific’ Narrative’

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You think the fiberglass exposure downwind from windmills is a health hazard too?

Weird how no health experts actually seem to think so, isnt it?
So the CDC, the American Lung Association, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, and the National Toxicology Program are not health experts? Maybe you should try telling them that since they have all labeled fiberglass as a carcinogenic.

I'm betting this is when you really wish you actually had an education. :rolleyes:
 
Libertarians don't care about the environment, because they'll be dead by the time it takes enough effect to impact them personally.
The only thing youve proven with that idiotic post is your complete lack of knowledge with regards to what a libertarian is. Good job.
 
This is part of the problem identified with attempting to link the rise in CO2 and the rise in sea level.
A few years ago I put the image of the NOAA CO2 rise next to the longest US tide gauge series, NY the battery
There is an upward trend, but any changes in that trend would be difficult to pluck from the noise.
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That demonstrates that atmospheric CO2 has absolutely no effect on sea levels, either way. Which we already knew.
 
If you look at NOAA's graph from 1920 to 1930 it looks like sea level went down. The data for the graph may be from NOAA but did NOAA draw that line?
You must not know what a "mean average" is if you can't comprehend why NOAA drew that diagonal line. :rolleyes:

When did people start talking about methane from warming tundra and big round holes appearing in Siberia?

Side effects!

How much future warming may be caused by methane? Feedbacks are a bitch!
We've been talking about them for decades in Alaska. Siberia is not the only place where methane hydrates are melting, sometimes explosively. This is what tends to happen during an interglacial period, which we have been in for the last 11,700 years.

Methane contributes 0.0001895% to the total atmosphere, or 1895 ppbV. Which is 220 less than the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. According to the USGS there is more than 53 trillion cubic feet of methane hydrates on the north slope of Alaska. It is our intent to mine the material since it is the world's largest natural gas source.

 
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The only thing youve proven with that idiotic post is your complete lack of knowledge with regards to what a libertarian is. Good job.

Libertarianism is basically being a selfish asshole and nothing more. It should be in the dictionary.
 
Where exactly does this 65-year-old study back up your assertion that the logarithmic decline of CO2 warm forcing is due to the warming that would happen? Sorry, but I'm not going to waste my time reading the whole thing when there is most likely nothing in it that backs you up.
You do not think Wild's findings were about aerosols?
Of course, it is about aerosols. But not everything in it is.
Here is a quote from Wild's publication. Wild

and
Yes... both of those quotes are about aerosols.
And then back to the findings for the period 1992 to 2001,
But this one is not. And it is OBVIOUS that it is NOT. All you had to do was read the sentence right before the one you cut and pasted:
A recent reconstruction of planetary albedo based on the earthshine method (22), which also depends on ISCCPcloud data, reports a similar decrease during the1990s.
Did you miss the sentence right before the one you copied? I don't think so. You ignored it so that you could dishonestly claim that 6 W m-2 was due to a decline in aerosols when it really is due to a decrease in the reflectance of the planet's surface.

Just another example of you cherry-picking and lying about what a study says.

And another example of why people should not take what you say about climate science seriously.
 
What do you think is a lie? Both graphs are easily verified.
NOAA Battery Park Tide station
and take you pick of CO2 levels since 1850.
There is nothing wrong with the graph. The problem is how you use this graph to lie about what the data says. It is all the data with just one trend line that hides all the changes that are happening over time. You constantly use it to falsely claim that there has been no change in the rate of rise. But if you just used the variations of the 50-year trends tab you can see that the rate of rise has been on the increase. Here it is.

Screenshot 2022-12-16 at 07-31-49 Sea Level Trends - NOAA Tides & Currents.webp

So... your claim that you can't determine any changes in rates of rise due to noise is just a lie.
 
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The IPCC math indicates this as fact. How can you not know this?

5.35 x ln (560/280) = 3.71
5.35 x ln (1120/560) = 3.71

Haven't you ever done the math?
I don't think you realize what long is claiming. He is saying the logarithmic decline of CO2's forcing as concentration increases is calculated using the fact that a warming world is more efficient at radiating heat out into space. But I have never seen anything that says this. I think long made it up.

And I am pretty sure you won't be able to back this up any better than long.
 
Referring to anyone who does not buy into man-made climate as "deniers" is batshit crazy. That's a fact.
You're just repeating what you said before. I could think of less polite descriptions such as calling them a useless waste of space. But let's stick to denier as it is accurate rather than descriptive.

These guys offer nothing of any value. they belong with qanon, the ider's, the flat earthers, the trump supporters and all the other people with weird and useless ideas.

Why would you give them any support?
 
There is nothing wrong with the graph. The problem is how you use this graph to lie about what the data says. It is all the data with just one trend line that hides all the changes that are happening over time. You constantly use it to falsely claim that there has been no change in the rate of rise. But if you just used the variations of the 50-year trends tab you can see that the rate of rise has been on the increase. Here it is.

So... your claim that you can't determine any changes in rates of rise due to noise is just a lie.
Any changes in the sea level rise rate, are clearly not tracking the rise in CO2 levels.
The rate of sea level rise cycles on a long cycle which may or may not have anything to do with the CO2 level!
 
So the CDC, the American Lung Association, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, and the National Toxicology Program are not health experts? Maybe you should try telling them that since they have all labeled fiberglass as a carcinogenic.

I'm betting this is when you really wish you actually had an education. :rolleyes:
You can say the names as much as you want, but they don’t say it’s carcinogenic,

I mean..hers the CDC, since you apparently just spit names out but don’t bother to actually check.
 
I don't think you realize what long is claiming. He is saying the logarithmic decline of CO2's forcing as concentration increases is calculated using the fact that a warming world is more efficient at radiating heat out into space. But I have never seen anything that says this. I think long made it up.

And I am pretty sure you won't be able to back this up any better than long.
Not made up. Basic science.
 
These guys offer nothing of any value. they belong with qanon, the ider's, the flat earthers, the trump supporters and all the other people with weird and useless ideas.
That is some of the nuttiest descriptions of people who disagree with man-made climate change I have ever read.Q-Anon? Flat Earthers? And rejection of the woke politically correct man-made climate change cult far predates Trump running for president. Your apparent opinion that anyone who does not buy into man-made climate is a drooling nutjob is batshit crazy quackery.
 
You must not know what a "mean average" is if you can't comprehend why NOAA drew that diagonal line. :rolleyes:


We've been talking about them for decades in Alaska. Siberia is not the only place where methane hydrates are melting, sometimes explosively. This is what tends to happen during an interglacial period, which we have been in for the last 11,700 years.
I didn't say comprehend. Just looking at the style of the line it looks like a different addition.

I have searched for "methane holes siberia" and "methane holes alaska". I have not found any pictures of such holes in Alaska while multiples of such holes have appeared in Siberia relatively recently.

So give us a link! Preferably from decades ago like you say.
 
That is some of the nuttiest descriptions of people who disagree with man-made climate change I have ever read.Q-Anon? Flat Earthers? And rejection of the woke politically correct man-made climate change cult far predates Trump running for president. Your apparent opinion that anyone who does not buy into man-made climate is a drooling nutjob is batshit crazy quackery.
No. Many are just dumber than a second coat of paint.

I mean, the science is about as clear as it gets. Its not even controversial in scientific circles.
 
I mean, the science is about as clear as it gets. Its not even controversial in scientific circles.
Legitimate science, yes, junk science no. You lack the ability to distinguish between the two. You are just following the left wing cult like an obediant puppy.
 
Legitimate science, yes, junk science no. You lack the ability to distinguish between the two. You are just following the left wing cult like an obediant puppy.
No…. I understand science quite well.

Only one of us has a position counter to the National Academy of Science. And the academies of a hundred other nations.

But you have…. A really strong ‘belief’. 🙄
 
That is some of the nuttiest descriptions of people who disagree with man-made climate change I have ever read.Q-Anon? Flat Earthers? And rejection of the woke politically correct man-made climate change cult far predates Trump running for president. Your apparent opinion that anyone who does not buy into man-made climate is a drooling nutjob is batshit crazy quackery.
So nothing more than keep repeating yourself. If you want to support this crap that is your problem.
 
I didn't say comprehend. Just looking at the style of the line it looks like a different addition.

I have searched for "methane holes siberia" and "methane holes alaska". I have not found any pictures of such holes in Alaska while multiples of such holes have appeared in Siberia relatively recently.

So give us a link! Preferably from decades ago like you say.
Next time try searching for "methane hydrate", you will be more successful.
Methane Hydrates.webp

Methane hydrates rarely explode violently. They have that potential, but it very rarely ever happens. When they do explode there is typically nobody around and the holes are filled in again by melted ice water. The north slope of Alaska is dotted with tens of thousands of very circular lakes. More often they will release the methane slowly, which can be identified as bubbles.

We've known about methane hydrates in Alaska, Canada, and Russia since at least the mid-1960s. Once again you demonstrate your lack of education.

 
I don't think you realize what long is claiming. He is saying the logarithmic decline of CO2's forcing as concentration increases is calculated using the fact that a warming world is more efficient at radiating heat out into space. But I have never seen anything that says this. I think long made it up.

And I am pretty sure you won't be able to back this up any better than long.
It's simply two aspects of science that are related, and are very solidly believed to be true.

We know that the response of greenhouse gasses have a logarithmic curve.

We know that the warmer molecules are, the more they radiate energy. This will include increasing any amounts heading towards space.

I don't get how this isn't obvious to you.
 
So the CDC, the American Lung Association, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, and the National Toxicology Program are not health experts? Maybe you should try telling them that since they have all labeled fiberglass as a carcinogenic.

I'm betting this is when you really wish you actually had an education. :rolleyes:
It's actually the resins used that are carcinogenic, not the glass itself. The fiberglass however does have its own health concerns.

Both these become aerosolized as the erode of the blades.
 
Where exactly does this 65-year-old study back up your assertion that the logarithmic decline of CO2 warm forcing is due to the warming that would happen? Sorry, but I'm not going to waste my time reading the whole thing when there is most likely nothing in it that backs you up.
This is where RE (radiative efficiency) comes into play. If you understand how they calculate it, you will see this value decreases as the greenhouse gas increases.
 
It's actually the resins used that are carcinogenic, not the glass itself. The fiberglass however does have its own health concerns.

Both these become aerosolized as the erode of the blades.
Fiberglass is coated with formaldehyde and that is what makes it carcinogenic. The glass fibers cause other pulmonary issues when inhaled, but are not carcinogenic.

 
So nothing more than keep repeating yourself. If you want to support this crap that is your problem.
What I am saying is worth repeating. There are two sides to any scientific argument. Not all scientists agree on the issue of so-called man-made climate change. To take one side and just declare the other side as flat earth nuts is not just batshit crazy, it is intellectual cowardice. It shows that you have no intellectual argument. You are just following the crowd and cherry picking web sites that support your point of view. Same goes with the Covid issue. There is at least some doubt that the pandemic started with the sale of caged animals in the Wuhan wet markets. To label the view one does not agree with as nutty or flat earth is batshit crazy as well.
 
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