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Climate Science is in the crapper for warmists .

iguanaman said:
That is the lamest comment I've heard on this board for awhile. Evolution has nothing to do with caring about your fellow man. I guess you aren't a Christian either. What do you believe in besides yourself.? You seem to be the poster boy for DE-evolution.
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Not really the right thread for it, but there is some truth in what he said
 
yobarnacle said:
Why is it liberals want to inject evolution in every argument regardless of original topic.
it's OBVIOUS they don't really BELIEVE in evolution. Survival of the fittest? In the USA, we have americans, and american'ts. If they truly believed in evolution, they'd have a sink or swim attitude towards the can'ts
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Looks like someone doesn't understand Evolution well....
 
yobarnacle said:
Look how fast AGW warmers shifted from global warming to climate change, whem their prediction models failed on temperatures! :)
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They are even better than you think. They have gone from man made ice age to man made global warming to man made climate change all in the space of 40 years with many of the same scientists involved in creating all three doom laden scenarios too. I'd like to see any polar bear beat that for adaptability ! :lol:
 
iguanaman said:
Right, this chart does not show any warming of temperature at all. What is all the fuss about?

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You might want to also note that the term climate change was invented by a Republican strategist and used by the Bush administration, probably to help sell it to their somewhat backward constituents.
 
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iguanaman said:
Right, this chart does not show any warming of temperature at all. What is all the fuss about?

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Unfortunately for Democrats and elites, their war-on-science and the American taxpayer has been hoisted on the petard of actual scientific evidence. The left's catastrophic man-made warming propaganda has been embarrassingly castrated by the real deal - it's called empirical data.

C3: NOAA Confirms Recent Global Temperature Change Is Historically Small & Warming Is Decelerating
 
yobarnacle said:
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Unfortunately for Democrats and elites, their war-on-science and the American taxpayer has been hoisted on the petard of actual scientific evidence. The left's catastrophic man-made warming propaganda has been embarrassingly castrated by the real deal - it's called empirical data.

C3: NOAA Confirms Recent Global Temperature Change Is Historically Small & Warming Is Decelerating
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You need to consider your sources more. The way you know propaganda is by the sites you frequent. It is you that is being fed a hoax. NASA is not lying. The Earth is warming. 2 of Earth's 10 hottest years on record were in this decade. You think that is coincidence?
 
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iguanaman said:
The way you know propaganda is by the sites you frequent. It is you that are being fed a hoax. NASA is not lying. The Earth is warming 2 of the 10 hottest years on record were in this decade.
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You do realise that the GISS temperature plot is actually a James Hansen inspired climate modelled construct and not raw data now dont you ?
 
iguanaman said:
You need to consider your sources more. The way you know propaganda is by the sites you frequent. It is you that is being fed a hoax. NASA is not lying. The Earth is warming. 2 of Earth's 10 hottest years on record were in this decade. You think that is coincidence?
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Dr. James Hansen of Nasa is a virulent political radical leftist.
I wouldn't buy a used car from him. :)
 
yobarnacle said:
Dr. James Hansen of Nasa is a virulent political radical leftist.
I wouldn't buy a used car from him. :)
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You seem to fit the "profile" for denialists so you might be interested in a study being done about your strange group. It appears that along with being politically Right wing you guys are prone to believing in other conspiracy theories also. What other crackpot beliefs do you have? Are you a "Truther" too? How about the moon landing, faked or not? I'm curious about how your mind works, it is unusual behavior to need to disbelieve 97% off the world's scientists. Is it because you worry it will cost you money or that Al gore might make money? It seems that it is always about money with you guys
All though about 97 percent of working scientists agree that the evidence shows a warming trend caused by humans, public understanding of climate change falls along political lines. Democrats are more likely to "believe in" global warming than Republicans, according to a 2011 report by the University of New Hampshire's Carsey Institute. In fact, deniers and skeptics who felt more confident in their climate-change knowledge were the strongest disbelievers.Believing that climate change isn't happening or that it's not human-caused requires a belief that thousands of climate scientists around the world are lying outright, Lewandowsky and his colleagues wrote in their new paper. Conspiracy theory beliefs are known to come in clusters — someone who thinks NASA faked the moon landing is more likely to accept the theory that 9/11 was an inside job, for example. So Lewandowsky and his colleagues created an online survey and asked eight mostly pro-science blogs and five climate-skeptic blogs to post a link to the survey for their readers. The respondents were self-selecting, but highly motivated to care about climate science, the researchers noted.
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Climate Change Denial & Conspiracy Theories: New Research Provokes Even More Irrationality
 
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flogger said:
You do realise that the GISS temperature plot is actually a James Hansen inspired climate modelled construct and not raw data now dont you ?
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The moon landing was real, Obama was born in Hawaii, and human caused Global Warming is happening according to 97% of working Scientists. Your welcome.
 
Deuce said:
What? Are you serious? Nobody has explained the mechanism of greenhouse warming to you?
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The mechanisms of greenhouse warming are understood, it is the non linear forcing claimed by the alarmist, that is not defined.
Co2 in the IR energy bands has 3 main vibrational energy levels.
Within each of these vibration are roughly 6 spin states.
If Co2 is passing off energy to some other atom or molecule, it must be of the frequencies Co2 is capable of emitting.
The hypothesis of AGW, has not defined the energy transfer states required for the forcing to occur,
or even which other atom or molecule is involved.
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longview said:
The mechanisms of greenhouse warming are understood, it is the non linear forcing claimed by the alarmist, that is not defined.
Co2 in the IR energy bands has 3 main vibrational energy levels.
Within each of these vibration are roughly 6 spin states.
If Co2 is passing off energy to some other atom or molecule, it must be of the frequencies Co2 is capable of emitting.
The hypothesis of AGW, has not defined the energy transfer states required for the forcing to occur,
or even which other atom or molecule is involved.
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It is an observed phenomena and is well understood. Denying what is right in front of you is what you are doing. Is it any wonder that 97% of all working scientists believe in human caused WARMING. The wonder is that you can believe that releasing 6 million years of sequestered Co2 in a few hundred could have no effect on climate. That sounds logical to you? Do you believe the moon landing was faked too? Just curious
 
flogger said:
A simple ' no I can't ' would have sufficed here :roll:

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I could care less if that one graph is not perfect. The consensus of 97% of working scientists IS far more important than one chart. That is the way science works. It's not all or nothing like a RELIGION.

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iguanaman said:
It is an observed phenomena and is well understood. Denying what is right in front of you is what you are doing. Is it any wonder that 97% of all working scientists believe in human caused WARMING. The wonder is that you can believe that releasing 6 million years of sequestered Co2 in a few hundred could have no effect on climate. That sounds logical to you? Do you believe the moon landing was faked too? Just curious
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Prove that 97% of 'working' scientists have ever been asked what they think on this issue ?
 
Yes I do and I await iguanamans response to my initial question with interest
 
I wasnt trying to make an argument I was simply asking a question. Do keep up :roll:
 
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