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"Class Warfare"

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Cardinal Fang said:
Personal Responsibility® is what right-wingers wish to abandon and walk away from. What they prefer is Responsibility to Self Only. Unwarranted exceptionalist and triumphalist attitudes of I'll get me mine, and the rest of you can go straight to hell. This is not only a despicable philosophy, but one that runs drectly counter to American tradition and culture. It is both an anti-social and an anti-patriotic approach.
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A persons primary responsibility is to himself. That is not a despicable philosophy, it does not run counter to American tradition and culture, it is not anti-social, nor anti-patriotic. It is painfully obvious. Sorry, but I am not my brothers keeper. That is my brothers job. If you wish to fill that role, be my guest. But you have no chance of shaming me into it with such a bogus argument.
 
Fletch said:
A persons primary responsibility is to himself. That is not a despicable philosophy, it does not run counter to American tradition and culture, it is not anti-social, nor anti-patriotic. It is painfully obvious. Sorry, but I am not my brothers keeper. That is my brothers job. If you wish to fill that role, be my guest. But you have no chance of shaming me into it with such a bogus argument.
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Leftwingers try to justify their greed and their coveting the wealth of others by throwing out this crap about
the common good". Its like fleas telling the dog he has a duty to share his blood with "the community" of parasites
 
TurtleDude said:
Rightwingers try to justify their greed and their coveting the wealth of others by throwing out this crap about
job creation". Its like fleas telling the dog he has a duty to share his blood with "the community" of parasites
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Fixed that for you.
It is disgusting that you would compare your fellow man to a parasites.
 
TurtleDude said:
those taxes for the most part aren't used in class warfare arguments or buy the vote arguments. You cannot play groups of tax payers against each other with gas taxes, sales taxes, airport and hotel taxes. Only stuff like the FIT and the FEderal death taxes
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glad to see you concede the point that even those who are demonized by the far right for not paying federal income taxes still pay plenty of other taxes.
 
Fruityfact said:
Fixed that for you.
It is disgusting that you would compare your fellow man to a parasites.
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First of all, you didnt fix it. And second:

Parasite

a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

So yeah, there are many millions of our fellow men who are parasites. What is disgusting is not pointing out that fact, but that they choose to live that way.
 
Fletch said:
First of all, you didnt fix it. And second:

Parasite

a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

So yeah, there are many millions of our fellow men who are parasites. What is disgusting is not pointing out that fact, but that they choose to live that way.
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Ignorance at its finest
 
You think people aspire to be poor, to have to live off of food stamps, to have to life off a unemployment check..believe me you're mistaken
 
I think some people do not aspire to anything but are satisfied to leech off others. There are poor people who through circumstance need and deserve to be helped. Unfortunately, there are many more who are able to help themselves but do not want to make the sacrifice knowing that they will be taken care of to a degree which they find preferable to the difficult work of being productive.
 
Harshaw said:
I'm sorry you said something foolish and I pointed it out.
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Fact and nuance simply flew over your head. Gitmo has been closed. There are no new arrivals. Detainees have been reduced to the number that Republicans force the administration to keep there by denying them the use of any other location in the world.

Harshaw said:
The irony is rich.
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The grown-up quotient isn't rising. That would require grappling with factual material, something that right-wingers tend to do quite poorly at.
 
TurtleDude said:
I represent everyone who wants to be successful or who thinks TRYING to be successful is worthwhile in itself. Your posts argue in favor of giving up and not trying and advocates addiction to the public teat as the rational alternative to giving it your best shot even if you don't get the golden ring in the end
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That's funny because your posts reveal greed and a total unconcern for your fellow citizens and the economy.
 
Catawba said:
That's funny because your posts reveal greed and a total unconcern for your fellow citizens and the economy.
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That might just be because you link compassion and care for others with government coercion.
 
TurtleDude said:
That is a classic case of projection it appears
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Stumble, fumble, bumble. Tongue-tied again, I see. The big picture on taxes shows your arguments to be self-serving shams that are utterly without merit. This is why you refuse to address the big picture and simply recycle the same old balderdash over and over again.
 
Fletch said:
Sorry, but I am not my brothers keeper. That is my brothers job. If you wish to fill that role, be my guest. But you have no chance of shaming me into it with such a bogus argument.
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You are in fact your brother's keeper if you are an American or consider yourself a member of any other society. For at least the first 15-20 years of your life, you were a freaking dependent who produced nothing of any value whatsoever, yet demanded that you be given food, shelter, clothing, health care, education, trips to Disney World, and all sorts of other comforts. And those who were your keepers went out of their way to make sure those sorts of things were provided to you. And for each of those keepers of yours, there was an alternate. A backup who would have taken over if your care had somehow lapsed. In due time of course, you will return to a perhaps lengthy time of dependency. You will once again contribute nothing of any value while demanding that you be well and properly cared for until the day you die. And others will again proceed to do that for you. But right now -- when it's YOUR turn to be one of the keepers for others -- you refuse to do it. You won't either pay back what's already been given to you or make a down payment against what will be given to you again. That is truly repugnant.
 
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Cardinal Fang said:
You are in fact your brother's keeper if you are an American or consider yourself a member of any other society. For at least the first 15-20 years of your life, you were a freaking dependent who produced nothing of any value whatsoever, yet demanded that you be given food, shelter, clothing, health care, education, trips to Disney World, and all sorts of other comforts. And those who were your keepers went out of their way to make sure those sorts of things were provided to you. And for each of those keepers of yours, there as an alternate. A backstop who would have taken over if your care had somehow lapsed. In due time of course, you will return to a perhaps lengthy time of dependency. You will once again contribute nothing of any value while demanding that you be well and properly cared for until the day you die. And others will again proceed to do that for you. But right now -- when it's YOUR turn to be one of the keepers for others -- you refuse to do it. You won't either pay back what's already been given to you or make a down payment against what will be given to you again. That is truly repugnant.
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You are a very confused person. I imagine you have never had a child and seriously misunderstand the mammilian prosses of nurture.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
Is "primary" different from "obsessively exclusive"? I'll give you a few minutes on that one...
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Why would I need a few minutes? Was the phrase "obsessively exclusive" a part of your original post to which I responded? No, it wasnt. You are just doing some after the fact editing. Nice try though.
 
Meathead said:
I think some people do not aspire to anything but are satisfied to leech off others. There are poor people who through circumstance need and deserve to be helped. Unfortunately, there are many more who are able to help themselves but do not want to make the sacrifice knowing that they will be taken care of to a degree which they find preferable to the difficult work of being productive.
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What a load of over-protected horse manure. Go work in a soup kitchen. Hang out at a battered women's shelter. Get in line at your local AIDS clinic. You serve no useful purpose waltzing around here pretending to know what you are talking about. Go upgrade your life a little.
 
Meathead said:
You are a very confused person. I imagine you have never had a child and seriously misunderstand the mammilian prosses of nurture.
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You can file these imaginings with all your others. Like them, these are riddled with error and have neither merit nor applicability.
 
Fletch said:
Why would I need a few minutes? Was the phrase "obsessively exclusive" a part of your original post to which I responded? No, it wasnt. You are just doing some after the fact editing. Nice try though.
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LOL! You're just (again) running away. This seems to be your primary strategy. Certainly actual defense of your posts is not something you've been very inclined toward or good at.
 
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