An excellent little article of what it is and what it is not...
https://biblelovenotes.blogspot.com...R_10lLdd4Q_-xFp2cZtV9hNiM-b2u2YLSfYVyCP5Q&m=1
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No. If you don't "approve of someones lifestyle" but you "tolerate" them, you don't actually respect them. That can fly when talking about political beliefs. I have friends who voted for Trump. But that bullshit talking point is just that. Bullshit.
How do Christians get away with saying they "tolerate" gay people, but don't approve of their lifestyle or beliefs? Say that about any other group and you'll see why it kinda does seem like you don't really tolerate gay people.
If someone came up to me and said, "oh yeah, I tolerate Jewish people, I just don't agree with their lifestyle or beliefs". I would probably assume they had a problem with Jewish people.
Being gay isn't a lifestyle anymore than being straight is a lifestyle.
How do Christians get away with saying they "tolerate" gay people, but don't approve of their lifestyle or beliefs? Say that about any other group and you'll see why it kinda does seem like you don't really tolerate gay people.
If someone came up to me and said, "oh yeah, I tolerate Jewish people, I just don't agree with their lifestyle or beliefs". I would probably assume they had a problem with Jewish people.
Being gay isn't a lifestyle anymore than being straight is a lifestyle.
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American "christians"......I want to be EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of American "christians".
In order to do that...I can simply try to be like Christ. American "christians" dont ever do that from my experience.
But you enjoy that.
Because it is true...my next door neighbors are 2 women who are married...I have respect for them because they are good neighbors, good people...do I approve of their lifestyle? No, but it's none of my business what they do behind closed doors...
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Like I said in my post, if I said "I respect straight people, I just approve of their beliefs or lifestyle" you would probably think I had an issue with straight people. Like what does that even mean? If I disapprove of you being straight, that's not your "lifestyle." That's a part of who are as a human being. It's an essential part of your life experience. It is just as nonsensical and demeaning as saying you "respect Black people, but don't approve of their lifestyle." Being gay isn't a lifestyle anymore than your race, gender, or height is.
Yes, that is nonsense...they have a variety of lifestyles, just the same as white people do...
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That's what I'm saying. Being gay is NOT a lifestyle. Being straight is not a lifestyle. Saying you don't approve of their lifestyle doesn't even make sense. It would be like saying you don't approve of the lifestyle of tall people.
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Never? Not even one?American "christians"......I want to be EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of American "christians".
In order to do that...I can simply try to be like Christ. American "christians" dont ever do that from my experience.
But you enjoy that.
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The OP is basically a rationalization for so called "christians" to go ahead and judge, even though it directly says "do not judge" in the bible.
Religion. LMAO.
Tolerance does not mean I approve of the way they live or even agree with them but I can still respect them as human beings and I have no desire to hurt them or see them hurt...that is what people today are lacking when it comes to tolerance, imo...people are all too eager to hurt those they don't approve of or agree with...
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Clearly. Saying you "tolerate" something implies that it is negative in some way, but you just put up with it. Saying you "tolerate" gay people implies that being gay is a choice. It implies that being gay is a morally bad thing to be. It implies that being gay is something you have to tolerate. That gay people are disagreeable in some way to you, but you just deal with it.
I don't want to be tolerated. Use your language with any other group and you see how disgusting and demeaning it is. If you said you "tolerate the Black people living next to you," but insisted you respected them as humans, I would be rightfully suspicious of that claim.
If you actual respect LGBT people then stop using language that makes it sound like their existence something that is offensive to you.
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It also isn't this...
The Crusades: Definition, Religious Wars & Facts ‑ HISTORY
The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims, occurring from 1096 and 1291, primarily to secure control of Middle Eastern holy sites.
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Inquisition ‑ Spanish, Roman & Torture | HISTORY
The Inquisition was a powerful office within the Catholic Church which rooted out and punished heresy throughout Europe and the Americas for hundreds of years.
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I agree wholeheartedly...It also isn't this...
The Crusades: Definition, Religious Wars & Facts ‑ HISTORY
The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims, occurring from 1096 and 1291, primarily to secure control of Middle Eastern holy sites.
Inquisition ‑ Spanish, Roman & Torture | HISTORY
The Inquisition was a powerful office within the Catholic Church which rooted out and punished heresy throughout Europe and the Americas for hundreds of years.
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LGTB Marriage issues, family structure, and overall cultural acceptance is apparently the business of many Christians. I am not trying to offend you, but I do question how close, friendly, and personally accepting you can manage to be of an openly a gay person on an interpersonal level. How do you feel about homosexual couples on TV and in series? Does it make you uncomfortable and offended?
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I think you can say their 'lifestyle' of being lesbian isn't for you but to generally disapprove of it is making a judgment about it for others.
Now some people have a nasty demeanor, are dishonest, vulgar, etc, which I personally don't enjoy being the recipient of but this is where tolerance or forbearance comes into play. I, personally, don't like rap music but don't think it shouldn't exist for others.
It does and I've stopped watching some of my fav shows for that very reason...
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It kind of sounds like you don’t like being around gay people, but have defined tolerating them as “wanting nothing bad to happen to them.” If Jesus is known for touching lepers and showing compassion above fear and disgust, how is to best handle the issue of LGTB beyond not wanting anything bad to fall upon them?
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Tolerance isn't approval or agreement. It is also not interference. Christians are a long way from not interfering with LGBTQ. If truly tolerant, they can rest assured knowing the Christian fate of LGBTQ is hell.
Nope, it has nothing to do with being around them and everything to do with intimate actions the Bible says is unnatural...I don't care to be an observer...
You don't speak for all...I don't interfere in the least...everyone who dies goes to hell so I don't threaten anyone with that false doctrine, either...
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It's not the tolerance of the Christian who respects but does not accept that is called out. It is the "tolerance" of the Christian who tries to force by law that which he claims is sin to be illegal. A tolerant Christian accepts as legal abortion and SSM and all other things, never seeking to have such made illegal, even while trying to convince others to not engage in such actions.
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The Bible says everybody sins, but this particular group of people get singled out very harshly. I am not convinced there is a religious defense as much as a personal, cultural, and generational defense. The way the religious in this society treat and view LGTB in comparison to other sinners: adulterers and fornicators like Trump, alcoholics, having children outside of marriage, etc, these things are easier to swallow and tolerate for many Christians in comparison to LGTB.
If the church feels too outside the mainstream and faces losing power and money it will enviably moderate its stance. Churches have changed many stances and political positions over the years. Tolerating Trump really helped them gain control of the courts after all. If Trump’s sexual liaisons and abuse allegations all involved men, I have no doubt his Christian supporters wouldn’t have blinked.
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As do gay people.
None of that has anything to do with me...