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Chinese Banks Invoke US sanctions against Russians

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In a move widely seen as siding with the US, Chinese Banks have begun refusing to service Russian off shore accounts. It is a move by independent banks not the Chinese government, but could spell serious trouble for Russian companies as they are being advised to come in a close their accounts.

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BEIJING, September 24. /ITAR-TASS/. Chinese commercial banks have started refusing transferring money of Russian clients through offshore accounts, according to a letter from Ping An Bank seen by PRIME on Wednesday.

The move may be linked with a fear of worsening relations with the US at the backdrop of the crisis in Ukraine, some experts and Russian businessmen said.
China will never support sanctions against Russia — Russian official

“We are sorry to inform you that you need to come to us to close your account. We can no longer service you as your company is somewhat related to Russia,” the bank said in the letter to a commercial company.

ITAR-TASS: Economy - Chinese banks refuse servicing offshore accounts of Russian clients[/QUOTE]

It is yet another pebble in the stone pile being erected by the west, but will it have consequences on Putin's war?
 

Currently, China gets about 12% of its oil imports from Russia and that's poised to increase over the next decade. If this move is sanctioned by the central Chinese government, and almost nothing gets done there without such moves, this might be bad news for western economies in that it could be signalling that China's economic downturn is perhaps greater than anticipated. Or perhaps the Chinese are simply attempting to garner a better price on oil from the Russians.

Nothing involving China, or Russia for that matter, is ever as simple as it first appears.
 
Now that is an interesting piece of information that I had not expected and will watch.
 

It is yet another pebble in the stone pile being erected by the west, but will it have consequences on Putin's war?[/QUOTE]



Heya F&L. :2wave: Okay that's above board and on top of the table.....whats going on underneath? :lol:
 

Yes. The Chinese are never easy to gage.that is why this needs watching and alertness.
 
It is yet another pebble in the stone pile being erected by the west, but will it have consequences on Putin's war?



Heya F&L. :2wave: Okay that's above board and on top of the table.....whats going on underneath? :lol:[/QUOTE]



Now there's the rub as the body rub parlor advertised.....

It strikes me as significant that it is the dedicate banks, removed from the direct authority of the Chinese Banking system, therefore giving them an Obama "it's not my fault." The fact these banks are concerned about reaction from the west, at a time when Cino-American relations are somewhat tense, is another wrinkle in the mix.

And then there is the question whether this was not the result of some pressure from the west.....
 
Heya F&L. :2wave: Okay that's above board and on top of the table.....whats going on underneath? :lol:



Now there's the rub as the body rub parlor advertised.....

It strikes me as significant that it is the dedicate banks, removed from the direct authority of the Chinese Banking system, therefore giving them an Obama "it's not my fault." The fact these banks are concerned about reaction from the west, at a time when Cino-American relations are somewhat tense, is another wrinkle in the mix.

And then there is the question whether this was not the result of some pressure from the west.....[/QUOTE]



Yeah, I was of the thought that they may just be doing this for appearance sake. Since they just approved that long time deal with the Russians. Are participating in joint war games. Then started accepting Russian Currency rather than switching to US dollars.

Not to mention told us to go stick our head in the Sand over the South China Sea.
 



Yeah, I was of the thought that they may just be doing this for appearance sake. Since they just approved that long time deal with the Russians. Are participating in joint war games. Then started accepting Russian Currency rather than switching to US dollars.

Not to mention told us to go stick our head in the Sand over the South China Sea.[/QUOTE]



The big problem is understanding the Asian mind set. They think long term, are 'indirect', otherwise known as 'inscrutable', and have no loyalties outside of their world.

The Chinese communists had no trouble being loyal to Stalin AND the US as they laid in wait to take over after chasing the Japanese out...and while America screamed betrayal, they responded "you knew we were communist, but you didn't care."

I suspect this is their way of playing both sides and waiting to see which dog kills the other one
 
Like @fearandloathing said their just hedging their bet on Russia. They see how the west is reacting to Ukraine, and don't wanna be seen as too far on either side... (But they can't piss off the Russians too much either)
 
I guess all the ~"China would join with Russia in war against the US" was a big load of BS.
 
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