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China's 'New Era: Report Promises to Resolve 'Taiwan Question'

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What's reported in Newsweek's article could be taken two obvious ways. IMO, China will turn a new cheek with its attitude towards Tiawan during this "New Era" approach and work to make peace OR, their resolve might mean it's time to unleash their own military assault on Tiawan to wipe their self-acclaimed independence out. Regardless, very nervous times are still ahead.


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Meanwhile, China's annual government report issued on Saturday pledged to resolve the "Taiwan question in the new era." The report broadly focuses on the nation's economic outlook, but also includes some wording about its relations with Taiwan. This is the first year that it mentions the timeline of "the new era," according to a report from The Washington Post.


China's Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin warned that the U.S. should handle the subject of Taiwan "prudently" and that "whoever the United States sends to show so-called support for Taiwan will be futile."

"The will of the Chinese people to defend our national sovereignty and territorial integrity is unwavering," he said during a press briefing.
 
China's Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin warned that the U.S. should handle the subject of Taiwan "prudently" and that "whoever the United States sends to show so-called support for Taiwan will be futile."

"The will of the Chinese people to defend our national sovereignty and territorial integrity is unwavering," he said during a press briefing.

But it has not been a part of China for over 70 years now.

There is a time to just admit it is over and walk away. In case China has not realized it, the era of trying to annex other nations is a thing of the past. Soviet Union, Iraq, and now Russia have tried it in recent decades, and it has pretty much failed.

This is Taiwan, not Kampuchea.
 
It's easy to see that Beijing is using the Russian war against Ukraine as an example to apply potential pressure and stress on the US if we build-up NATO in the Pacific and continue support of Taiwan's independence of China. It's been projected that China may strike Taiwan in 3 years if Taiwan doesn't buckle to Beijing. Well within China's 'New Era' report. I'm already getting the feel what China will choose as stated in my op. The question now is with the strain of Russia-Ukraine war and NATO operations in Europe, the extreme costs to the West in the next couple of years, can the US stand up to China's current soft but hardening threats about a Pacific NATO and the US siding with Taiwan? Prior to the Russia-Ukraine war, I was all in that the US-West did all that we could to save Taiwan from Beijing. Ukraine has taken precedent at this time leaving me to wonder - during a pandemic 2 years in, how much more can we stand to save a couple small countries in the face of two huge, sizable world powers almost licking their chops for us to engage in war with them. I say that knowing that we'll fight if directly challenged to do so, but again, what good are we to take on such a fight if financially tremendously weakened by assisting Ukraine and then Taiwan? Our allies aren't doing that well in the financial department either 2 years into the pandemic. Spit balling here.


China is cautioning against the U.S. supporting Taiwan and trying to build a Pacific version of NATO as the crisis in Ukraine draws renewed attention to the status of the Asian island.

China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi claimed Monday that the "real goal" of the United States' plans in the Indo-Pacific was to develop Asia's response to NATO, according to Bloomberg.



“This would not only push Taiwan into a precarious situation, but will also bring unbearable consequences for the U.S. side,” Wang said, asserting that “Taiwan will eventually return to the embrace of the motherland.”
 
But it has not been a part of China for over 70 years now.

There is a time to just admit it is over and walk away. In case China has not realized it, the era of trying to annex other nations is a thing of the past. Soviet Union, Iraq, and now Russia have tried it in recent decades, and it has pretty much failed.

This is Taiwan, not Kampuchea.
Xi has made reuniting China one of the pillars of his presidency, so at this point there's really no backing out. China will be ready militarily in 5 years. The decoupling economically to lessen the impact of sanctions will take longer.
 
China will be ready militarily in 5 years.

They will likely never be ready. Their military is largely a joke, especially the PLAN.

And it is impossible to decouple their economy. They are dependent upon foreign money from producing things for other countries. Cut that off, and they are back to Third World status again.

I bet a lot of them right now are quietly crapping egg drop soup as the world watches the Russian economy collapse. Because that will be just a fraction of the reaction of the world if they invade Taiwan. They have a military that has not really been used since a small month long conflict in 1979. That is actually 43 years ago now. Not a single member of the military in uniform then is in uniform today. Their Navy has never amounted to much, and it shows as it is almost completely incapable of operating as more than a glorified Coast Guard.

Russia thought it's economy was safe from sanctions, and they are just now seeing how wrong they were. When some of the biggest corporations in the world just shut them off and close off hundreds of company owned locations, you know they are serious. But that will be nothing to the mass-exodus of business from China.
 
They will likely never be ready. Their military is largely a joke, especially the PLAN.

And it is impossible to decouple their economy. They are dependent upon foreign money from producing things for other countries. Cut that off, and they are back to Third World status again.

I bet a lot of them right now are quietly crapping egg drop soup as the world watches the Russian economy collapse. Because that will be just a fraction of the reaction of the world if they invade Taiwan. They have a military that has not really been used since a small month long conflict in 1979. That is actually 43 years ago now. Not a single member of the military in uniform then is in uniform today. Their Navy has never amounted to much, and it shows as it is almost completely incapable of operating as more than a glorified Coast Guard.

Russia thought it's economy was safe from sanctions, and they are just now seeing how wrong they were. When some of the biggest corporations in the world just shut them off and close off hundreds of company owned locations, you know they are serious. But that will be nothing to the mass-exodus of business from China.
1. I find that hard to believe without evidence.
2. That would absolutely cripple the world economy as well, and they know it.
 
2. That would absolutely cripple the world economy as well, and they know it.

The world economy is not as fragile as you think. In fact, most of the work done there would likely return to where it was before China became the world leader in cheap labor. Mexico, Canada, Philippines, Vietnam, etc, etc, etc. The world is not as dependent on China as you think.

And without evidence? Hell, look at the operational activities of the PLAN for since forever. A 2 week cruise is a "long cruise" for their ships. Most of their subs have not left their docks in years. I have never heard of anything but a few Destroyers being away from port for over a month. And when they were helping in the anti-pirate mission off of Africa, they were constantly screaming at how it was impossible for them to keep their ships operating and supplied.

The US frequently sends ships out for 6 months at a time, and even for periods of over a year. Their UNREP is second to none, through a century of practice and refinement. Meanwhile from what I have been able to gather, the PLAN did an UNREP exercise exactly once.

But it is already obvious that you are just a troll, and will believe nothing that you do not agree with. You are hardly the first pro-China troll we have seen.
 
The world economy is not as fragile as you think. In fact, most of the work done there would likely return to where it was before China became the world leader in cheap labor. Mexico, Canada, Philippines, Vietnam, etc, etc, etc. The world is not as dependent on China as you think.

And without evidence? Hell, look at the operational activities of the PLAN for since forever. A 2 week cruise is a "long cruise" for their ships. Most of their subs have not left their docks in years. I have never heard of anything but a few Destroyers being away from port for over a month. And when they were helping in the anti-pirate mission off of Africa, they were constantly screaming at how it was impossible for them to keep their ships operating and supplied.

The US frequently sends ships out for 6 months at a time, and even for periods of over a year. Their UNREP is second to none, through a century of practice and refinement. Meanwhile from what I have been able to gather, the PLAN did an UNREP exercise exactly once.

But it is already obvious that you are just a troll, and will believe nothing that you do not agree with. You are hardly the first pro-China troll we have seen.
And you somehow believe that that process will be immediate? I'm sorry to break your bubble, but a complete cut-off of trade with China would be catastrophic. The world is dependent on trade with China, far more than Russia, you're just ill-informed. To your second point, I'd like to see sources that explain how the Chinese navy as a whole is somehow incompetent in every aspect. Unfortunately, your masturbatory reverence to the declining US power blinds you to any other viewpoints which you'll just ignore as "CCP propaganda".
 
The world is dependent on trade with China, far more than Russia, you're just ill-informed.

No, it is not. In reality, there is not much that comes out of China that is critical. And a great deal that is made comes through middlemen in Taiwan. Like Foxcon, the largest electronics manufacturer in China, which is Taiwan owned. DO you really think it will continue operations as usual, with their home nation under attack? No, you are living in a fantasy if you think that.

In fact, look once again to Russia. They thought that Europe was dependent upon them for natural gas, and if they cut Russia off there would be blackouts and people would freeze. Hence Russia attacking in the Winter, not the normal time to start an offensive. But even with the NG cut off, they are adapting. There is nothing coming out of China that the world can not do without. And as I said, the nations that China took that business from would quickly take back a lot of that work again. So what, China cuts off the inexpensive COSCO products, do you think that strollers, desks, and cheap particle board furniture is critical to the world?

And as I said, they do not even "make" the products! Tell me, exactly how much of these products are actually designed and created in China? The answer is easy, none. They are made elsewhere, China is simply where they are reproduced. They are not an "originator" nation, nothing of importance actually comes from a Chinese company. Apple, TI, Intel, Motorola, the list goes on and on. Made in China, designed and engineered in other countries, by other companies.

Tell me, what is the best selling Chinese cell phone outside of China? Video game console? Television? Airplane? Car? Computer? Camera? Medicine? Medical equipment? Anything?

Simple fact is, China is a giant "Xerox nation", getting rich by providing cheap labor by making things crated by others. Almost nothing they make they actually own! They make it for others countries and companies.

To your second point, I'd like to see sources that explain how the Chinese navy as a whole is somehow incompetent in every aspect.

I never said that, but it is in the areas that matter most.

When talking about Naval forces, they are mostly described as either "Blue Water", or "Green Water". A true "Blue Water Navy" can operate for many months at sea, being provisioned and supplied entirely at sea. All food, fuel, repair parts, personnel, and everything else supplied by the home nation via air or sea supply ships. And the nations best at it are the US and UK. Because both nations have relied on that capability for over a century.

France is also pretty good at it, but not many more bother anymore.

China is more like India and Brazil, but even less so. Because at least India and Brazil are known to send their fleets out for months at a time, even if they do remain somewhat close to home. China on the other hand has severe and obvious gaps in how they are using their navy.

First of all, it almost never leaves port! And when it does, it goes out as a bunch of ships, does some exercises for a few weeks, then returns to port. They do not really conduct "fleet operations", just a bunch of ships that go out and return together. Which is why their UNREP is so pitiful. They have never needed this capability, never practiced it, and are trying to act like simply having a few UNREP ships now makes them capable of doing UNREP. That is like simply giving a kid an AK47 and calling him a "Soldier".

Their sea handling, gunnery, and many other things may be excellent. But unless they start to operate as a true navy, they will never be more than a glorified Coast Guard. That is not derogatory, it is simply the role they do. And have shown absolutely zero interest in trying to change that. Of course, since the PLAN comes in a distant third after the PLA and PLAAF, that is not surprising. China has never been a naval power of note, and it likely never will be. They have no real "naval tradition", and think that buying some fancy toys is all they need.
 
China needs to be nuked if they try to take over Taiwan. Nothing short of that will shut their stupid mouths. China isn't a Russia level nuclear power. They will bite off more than they can chew.
 
Interestingly, the only solution you seem to give is diversification, and your response is mostly a rant on "made in china" products. The first problem with that is demand. Since demand from China is absolutely massive and often is larger than most of the world, they would need to look to other markets, but that often requires an unfathomable increase in imports from other countries to break even. An example is Australia's iron ore mining industry. Decoupling would cause a massive lost of imports, and the only way demand from the rest of the world could fill a gap as large as 83 per cent (for iron ore) or 79 per cent (for wool) would be if prices collapsed catastrophically. We also need to consider whether other countries even want the products on the scale of china. To suggest it would be simple to decouple from China is dishonest as in the global economy today, excluding the largest country from business relationships would greatly harm the US. Furthermore, it is dubious if alternatives have the industry to support production of products normally gotten from China. China also holds over a trillion of the US foreign debt. To destroy supply chains like that is not as easy as you put it, as it will take time and price increases. The US will also struggle to abandon a market of 1.4 billion customers with a booming middle class. Many industries will grind to a halt without key metals and components from China. In the end, its a lose lose situation and is never touted by any serious economists. I'm going to sleep. I'll add on anything more tomorrow.
 
Interestingly, the only solution you seem to give is diversification, and your response is mostly a rant on "made in china" products. The first problem with that is demand.

And you are just like the Pro-Russia cheerleaders that were saying the same thing about Ukraine not that long ago.

"Oh, they can't cut off Russia! It is too important to the economy! They have all that oil and gas! The Vodka! We can't stop trading with them, it would cripple everybody!"

Well, we did exactly that. And even more, look at 1989. When China brutally put down the Tiananmen Square protests, it crippled their economy and it took them over a decade to recover to where it had been before. It sank almost overnight from over $3.5 billion a year, to under $700 million a year. And many companies are already working on returning manufacturing back to the US or other countries, because of Taiwan and many internal problems are making them rethink their relationship with that country.

You are making the same mistake that a lot of "Socialists" make. You all are so obsessed with money, you fail to realize that most of the world is not that obsessed with it. They will willingly take such a hit, knowing that it will hurt China even more. That is what you all fail to recognize. You think the world is that dependent on China?

It ain't that big a deal.

And abandon "1.4 billion customers"? Holy hell, do you not know there is a growing trade deficit? If most of the world cut off China, that is only good for the US, as the need for their own goods would increase worldwide. Especially as much of those products made in China are US products! What, you think the iPhone is a Chinese product? It is not, it is American. The most popular cell phone in the world, you think that we will not continue to make and sell it just because it no longer has "Made in China" stamped on it? The XBox, a US company but made in China. The PlayStation. A Japanese product but made in China. Do you really think that those companies have not already made plans on what to do if sanctions or a trade war started? They can all leave China and move their manufacturing elsewhere. Those companies will lose little, China will lose a lot.

Then good luck in trying to make money selling the world the crap that China actually makes on its own. I can't see the world crying because it can not get Huawei cell phones and Tencent consoles. And those of us that watch computers know what garbage the "Chinese Designed" computers are. Slower than systems that companies like Dell and HP made over a decade ago, and twice the price.


Feel free to check it out, it is outperformed by a budget AMD processor from 2017. Trounced in every benchmark, you think anybody outside of China will cry that they can't get their hands on one? I have been watching those for years, they are a joke.
 
And you are just like the Pro-Russia cheerleaders that were saying the same thing about Ukraine not that long ago.

"Oh, they can't cut off Russia! It is too important to the economy! They have all that oil and gas! The Vodka! We can't stop trading with them, it would cripple everybody!"

Well, we did exactly that. And even more, look at 1989. When China brutally put down the Tiananmen Square protests, it crippled their economy and it took them over a decade to recover to where it had been before. It sank almost overnight from over $3.5 billion a year, to under $700 million a year. And many companies are already working on returning manufacturing back to the US or other countries, because of Taiwan and many internal problems are making them rethink their relationship with that country.

You are making the same mistake that a lot of "Socialists" make. You all are so obsessed with money, you fail to realize that most of the world is not that obsessed with it. They will willingly take such a hit, knowing that it will hurt China even more. That is what you all fail to recognize. You think the world is that dependent on China?

It ain't that big a deal.

And abandon "1.4 billion customers"? Holy hell, do you not know there is a growing trade deficit? If most of the world cut off China, that is only good for the US, as the need for their own goods would increase worldwide. Especially as much of those products made in China are US products! What, you think the iPhone is a Chinese product? It is not, it is American. The most popular cell phone in the world, you think that we will not continue to make and sell it just because it no longer has "Made in China" stamped on it? The XBox, a US company but made in China. The PlayStation. A Japanese product but made in China. Do you really think that those companies have not already made plans on what to do if sanctions or a trade war started? They can all leave China and move their manufacturing elsewhere. Those companies will lose little, China will lose a lot.

Then good luck in trying to make money selling the world the crap that China actually makes on its own. I can't see the world crying because it can not get Huawei cell phones and Tencent consoles. And those of us that watch computers know what garbage the "Chinese Designed" computers are. Slower than systems that companies like Dell and HP made over a decade ago, and twice the price.


Feel free to check it out, it is outperformed by a budget AMD processor from 2017. Trounced in every benchmark, you think anybody outside of China will cry that they can't get their hands on one? I have been watching those for years, they are a joke.
Ok, you completely ignored what I even stated. YOU cannot compare Russia and China. Russia only really exports natural gas and isn't that important for trade, yet even then the EU has not imposed energy sanctions, whereas China is an integral part of the world economy. Even then gas prices have gone up and the US is being forced to turn to Venezuela and Iran. To compare the economies of Tiananmen Square China and Modern China shows a complete lack of understanding of economics. In 1989, China was barely worth mentioning, this couldn't be farther from the truth now. Your analogy doesn't make sense since you're basically comparing entirely different economies, and to break off trade from Modern day China could not have a more different impact. The world is not "willing to take the hit" and if you think so, I hate to break it to you but no European country has imposed gas sanctions on Russia, simply because its an essential lifeline that they cannot just "break off". This would apply to China tenfold. Furthermore, you seemed to ignore the point I made with 1.4 billion consumers with a burgeoning middle class. That's a huge market that businesses will struggle to replace. Again, you seem to think its incredibly easy to simply pack up and leave, without evidence. Refer to my points in my last post. You think that if trade gets cut-off, these businesses magically have new supply chains, magically have tenfold demand from other countries, and magically also have alternatives that have an industrial capacity exceeding China? What a joke. If you're only rebuttal is to say that made in China products are copies, then this conversation has no value.

Find me any expert or credible source that says this is a viable option and not a braindead strategy. I'm not gonna read your response otherwise.
 
Find me any expert or credible source that says this is a viable option and not a braindead strategy. I'm not gonna read your response otherwise.

*yawn*

Australia-China relations have long been marked by a fundamental tension. Economically, the two sides have been increasingly intertwined, with Australia providing many of the commodities on which China’s industry relies. But politically, much divides them. Beyond differences on values and human rights, Australia is concerned by China’s increasingly belligerent behavior in the Indo-Pacific. China, meanwhile, bristles at what it believes to be Australia’s anti-China stance. Over the past several decades, the two countries operated under an implicit bargain to shelter their rapidly growing economic ties from any political differences.

It worked: From 2009 to 2019, Australian exports to China tripled to 149 billion Australian dollars (around $110 billion) per year. Around half of that is iron ore, which fuels China’s insatiable need for steel to fuel its construction boom. The rest is mainly coal, gas, and agricultural products, plus substantial Australian earnings from Chinese students and tourists. This bargain held even when relations hit a rough patch—such as in 2009 and 2017—with trade increasing every year.

The bargain suddenly broke down last year. In April 2020, the Australian government led an international call for an independent inquiry into the still-murky origins of COVID-19 in Wuhan, China. An incensed Beijing quickly denounced Canberra’s call as an affront and political witch hunt.

There is a lot more involved in the article, but it discusses the recent withdrawal of Australia from much of China. And guess who lost the most in the deal? Hint: It was not Australia.

Key asymmetries include China’s greater reliance on international trade in general (especially with regard to energy supplies), reliance on exports to the United States in particular, and holdings of U.S. debt; U.S. reliance on imports from China; U.S. direct investment in China; and higher U.S. consumption as share of GDP. In considering the economic costs of war, perhaps the most significant asymmetry is that intensive and extensive combat in the Western Pacific would disrupt nearly all Chinese trade (95 percent of it being seaborne), whereas the United States would mainly suffer the loss of bilateral trade with China and, to a much lesser extent than China, trade with the rest of East Asia.14 This might be thought of as the war-zone effect on trade.

There, you asked for one, I presented two. With sources, feel free to comment. But I think I can already say your response. Outright rejection, with shoe pounding if you could in here.

But please, let me know when you want to actually have a discussion, and not scream like a lunatic.
 
We need to hurry up and build fabs here. I wonder if the Intel project in Ohio can be accelerated.
 
*yawn*



There is a lot more involved in the article, but it discusses the recent withdrawal of Australia from much of China. And guess who lost the most in the deal? Hint: It was not Australia.



There, you asked for one, I presented two. With sources, feel free to comment. But I think I can already say your response. Outright rejection, with shoe pounding if you could in here.

But please, let me know when you want to actually have a discussion, and not scream like a lunatic.
You do know that tariffs upon less important exports is different from a complete cut-off of trade right? China did not impose tariffs upon vital imports, i.e. iron and natural gases. The effect would be far worse.

Why'd you link the second article? That source demonstrates the severe economic consequences of such an act, and this was published in 2015, with the US adding $200 billion in trade since.

If you're not gonna seriously select your articles or even respond to all my points then there's no reason for this conversation to continue.
 
We need to hurry up and build fabs here. I wonder if the Intel project in Ohio can be accelerated.

Here is the funny thing, Intel makes nothing of importance in China.

To give an idea, the only fabrication plant that Intel has in China only manufactures 65nm chips. That is roughly "state of the art" in chip manufacturing, in 2005.

Their newest chips use a 10nm production process, and that facility is in Oregon.

The only thing that most chip makers have "made in China" are lesser support chips, not the main processors themselves. They have never had them made in China, and likely never will.

China is a great place to send off your north bridge and southbridge chips, memory controllers, video processors, things like that. But it is not where you have your main processors made. It never has been, and likely never will be.
 
If you're not gonna seriously select your articles or even respond to all my points then there's no reason for this conversation to continue.

*yawn*

Yes, your article predicts doom and gloom for Australia if something like that happened.

Dated OCTOBER 27 2020

Then the other talks about what actually happened.

Dated NOVEMBER 9, 2021

So we have the predictions on one side, which you present. I present the actual outcome, and they are not at all similar.

And you do not get the second reference? Which quite clearly states that if such an action like the Invasion of Taiwan happened all trade with China would ground to a halt no matter what? That no ships will be transiting anywhere near China, as it will be a war zone. Even if for some strange reason the entire world took stupid gas, all trade will stop because nobody will be risking their ships to drop off raw materials or pick up finished goods. If you could not read and comprehend that, then you really do not know anything that you are trying to sound so authoritative about. You are just talking to hear yourself talk, and not actually thinking about any of it.

No, it is pointless because you are a fanatic and obvious yet another China Fanboi. You all are incredibly predictable, and about as entertaining ultimately as Snitwin, our resident Nazi Fanboi.

But don't cry or feel bad, I dismiss all fanatics and fanbois equally.

But if you think nothing will happen, then I say China can just go ahead and do it. Then sit back and watch as the world turns the clock back to enact sanctions that will make 1989 look like a pat on the head.
 
Here is the funny thing, Intel makes nothing of importance in China.

To give an idea, the only fabrication plant that Intel has in China only manufactures 65nm chips. That is roughly "state of the art" in chip manufacturing, in 2005.

Their newest chips use a 10nm production process, and that facility is in Oregon.

The only thing that most chip makers have "made in China" are lesser support chips, not the main processors themselves. They have never had them made in China, and likely never will.

China is a great place to send off your north bridge and southbridge chips, memory controllers, video processors, things like that. But it is not where you have your main processors made. It never has been, and likely never will be.
I know. However, intel may be in a position to need to take up the slack from AMD if TSMC no longer produces.
 
*yawn*

Yes, your article predicts doom and gloom for Australia if something like that happened.

Dated OCTOBER 27 2020

Then the other talks about what actually happened.

Dated NOVEMBER 9, 2021

So we have the predictions on one side, which you present. I present the actual outcome, and they are not at all similar.

No, it is pointless because you are a fanatic and obvious yet another China Fanboi. You all are incredibly predictable, and about as entertaining ultimately as Snitwin, our resident Nazi Fanboi.

But don't cry or feel bad, I dismiss all fanatics and fanbois equally.

But if you think nothing will happen, then I say China can just go ahead and do it. Then sit back and watch as the world turns the clock back to enact sanctions that will make 1989 look like a pat on the head.
Since you do not seem to be able to distinguish tariffs and a complete cut-off of trade or even seem to read my posts. I dont think I'll be discussing this any longer.
 
I know. However, intel may be in a position to need to take up the slack from AMD if TSMC no longer produces.

Actually, their main high quality fab facility is in Washington State. And another in Singapore.

Their newest facility is still under construction in Arizona.

This is something most fail to understand. Nobody has any chips of real importance made in China. They never have. Just support ships, where they do not need to be as high of a quality and could be made in any factory 15 years old or older. And that is simply because they upgrade their main factories (mostly in the US) to make the newest and most powerful chips, and send their older equipment to China to make chips that are nowhere near as critical.
 
Actually, their main high quality fab facility is in Washington State. And another in Singapore.

Their newest facility is still under construction in Arizona.

This is something most fail to understand. Nobody has any chips of real importance made in China. They never have. Just support ships, where they do not need to be as high of a quality and could be made in any factory 15 years old or older. And that is simply because they upgrade their main factories (mostly in the US) to make the newest and most powerful chips, and send their older equipment to China to make chips that are nowhere near as critical.
I forgot about Arizona!
 
It's as if the handwriting is on the wall.

“This is a test so that [Chinese President] Xi Jinping can see how determined the United States and its allies are going to be to defend other countries,” said Hak Yin Li, an expert on Chinese foreign policy and an associate professor of international relations at Tokyo International University. “Today is about the case of Russia. Tomorrow will be the case of China.”




The response to a Chinese invasion of Taiwan would likely look quite different and largely depends on whether the U.S. and other countries commit troops to Taipei’s defense — a move that appears likely but is not actually guaranteed.



“It’s hard for anyone to argue that China believes that the United States believes that China believes that the United States will not actually show up,” Kuo said with a laugh. “You get into this weird rabbit hole of psychology. The ultimate answer is no, the Chinese [believe] the U.S. will absolutely be there and their plans are based on it.”
 
But it has not been a part of China for over 70 years now.

There is a time to just admit it is over and walk away. In case China has not realized it, the era of trying to annex other nations is a thing of the past. Soviet Union, Iraq, and now Russia have tried it in recent decades, and it has pretty much failed.

This is Taiwan, not Kampuchea.
Lol.

We won’t do anything if China invades. “The era of trying to annex other nations is a thing of the past” says who? The GAE? The GAE is faltering and that will quickly cease to be an issue. It will stop being a thing of the past once a nation does it.
 
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