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BEIJING/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - China warned President Barack Obama on Wednesday that a meeting with the Dalai Lama would further erode ties between the two powers, already troubled by Washington's arms sales to Taiwan.
The White House confirmed on Tuesday that Obama would meet the exiled Tibetan Buddhist leader, reviled by Beijing as a separatist for seeking self-rule for his mountainous homeland.
China's angry response reflected deepening tension between the world's biggest and third-biggest economies, with Beijing noting that President Hu Jintao himself urged Obama not to meet the exiled Tibetan leader.
During a summit with Obama in Beijing in November, Hu "explained China's stern position of resolutely opposing any government leaders and officials meeting the Dalai," said Ma Zhaoxu, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman.
"We urge the U.S. to fully grasp the high sensitivity of the Tibetan issues, to prudently and appropriately deal with related matters, and avoid bringing further damage to China-U.S. relations."
The White House shrugged off Beijing's earlier warnings about the meeting, which may happen as early as this month.
China's ire at the U.S. announcement was predictable, as was the White House's confirmation of the meeting, which has long been flagged.
Obama needs China to agree to further sanctions on Iran.
Cannot see the great black messiah getting China agreement, can you?
Actually, he needs Russia OR China. If he can get the Russians to agree, he can tell the Chinese to go **** their mommies.
China may be willing to agree to sanction Iran in exchange for Obama NOT meeting with the Dali Lama (which is not really any of China's business anyway).
China has long been out of control and in need of a foot up their crooked asses.
Actually, he needs Russia OR China. If he can get the Russians to agree, he can tell the Chinese to go **** their mommies.
China may be willing to agree to sanction Iran in exchange for Obama NOT meeting with the Dali Lama (which is not really any of China's business anyway).
China has long been out of control and in need of a foot up their crooked asses.
Good job Mr.President, if you continue with this foriegn policy tract I might even vote for you in 2012. China must be isolated, it must be fragmented, and if at all possible regime change by any means.
Actually, he needs Russia OR China. If he can get the Russians to agree, he can tell the Chinese to go **** their mommies.
China may be willing to agree to sanction Iran in exchange for Obama NOT meeting with the Dali Lama (which is not really any of China's business anyway).
China has long been out of control and in need of a foot up their crooked asses.
And no doubt once the USA is out of Chinese debt the US powers that be, may well plant that foot.
However until that particular fairy tale ending arrives, the USA will pretty much do what it is told to do.
China must never again become isolated, it is now and must always remain an integral Nation within the civilized group of nations.
I see that the problem being Russia becoming more and more important to the vitality and progression of Europe, as they control the energy pipelines and much of Western Europe and all of Eastern Europe relies on. This essentially means that Russia soon might have their iron fists around soft-European balls.
The incursion of the United States attempting to build a missile defense system in Poland surely annoyed Russia, but even worse, it spooked Russia a bit too. The real question seems to be whether or not Russia is looking for an opportunity to prove itself in wake of the United States declining economy. They cannot be entirely trusted.
China, on the other hand, has it's Red-hand on our softening balls. Its emerging capitalist economy appears to be both good for the United States and bad for the United States, as it is more willingly to play ball (i.e. loan and own our debt). We have a real issue with China's social sphere, and the United States is cautious about relying on such a system. They are, however, necessary for their influence on the North Korean regime (especially as the regime will shortly transition, that's right I say within the next 3-5 years Kim Jong-Il is gonna die).
I would not take the Chinese warning as anything but rhetoric.
China must never again become isolated, it is now and must always remain an integral Nation within the civilized group of nations.
The Chinese won't do zilch.....
All of Europe would be speaking Russian if it were not for the US...
Not only did we bail Europe out of WWI & II, we did it in the cold war too....
If the US does not keep the pressure on the Soviets, Europe will fall in short order.....
The Germans might put up a fight, but the rest will kow tow....
The UK will not kow tow to ANYBODY.
I hope Obama meets the Dalai Lama.
And I think China's appalling human rights record should get more attention from the rest of the world. In fact, maybe Obama should tell the Chinese leaders that if they give him a hard time at the UN he and the Europeans will start taking a closer look at what China is doing to Tibet and also to their own people.
The UK will not kow tow to ANYBODY.
I wish the Western world would grow a pair and acknowledge the Dalai Lama as the true leader of the Tibetans. But the truth is that our governments don't really give a toss. Our governments supressed the natives of our own nations savagely. Why would they care if a foreign power is doing it to indigenous people in their side of the world?
The whole situation is ****ed. It's why I left China and didn't look back. The situation in Xinjiang is just as bad. No one cares about the welfare of other humans, until it is they who are at the end of the bayonette. Then suddenly it matters.
So long as China has veto power in the United Nations, this simply is not true. BOTH Russia and China need to sign on to any sanctions for them to get UNSC approval. Even in the best of times, getting China to agree to that is a very long stretch.. but now, don't even think of it. Point is, on this China has very little leverage here because it wasn't about to approve sanctions anyway, so it isn't like their opposition to it is a response to growing Sino-American tension.
Doubtful.
They have an inflated sense of importance, magnificed by the kowtowing of the media and various heads of state/government to the Chinese leaders. I am VERY HAPPY to see President Obama push back at the Chinese. I don't agree much with Obama and his administration, but I am wholeheartedly in support of his recent decisions as they regard U.S. relations with Red China.
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