China vows not to sell arms to any party in Ukraine war

[Rogue Valley]

China vows not to sell arms to any party in Ukraine war

China's foreign minister says the country won’t sell weapons to either side in the war in Ukraine. Qin Gang was responding to Western concerns that Beijing could provide military assistance to Russia. China has maintained that it is neutral in the conflict, while backing Russia politically...

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4.14.23
BEIJING (AP) — China won’t sell weapons to either side in the war in Ukraine, the country’s foreign minister said Friday, responding to Western concerns that Beijing could provide military assistance to Russia. China has maintained that it is neutral in the conflict, while backing Russia politically, rhetorically and economically at a time when Western nations have imposed punishing sanctions and sought to isolate Moscow for its invasion of its neighbor. Qin Gang is the highest-level Chinese official to make such an explicit statement about arms sales to Russia. He added that China would also regulate the export of items with dual civilian and military use. “Regarding the export of military items, China adopts a prudent and responsible attitude,” Qin said at a news conference alongside visiting German counterpart Annalena Baerbock. “China will not provide weapons to relevant parties of the conflict, and manage and control the exports of dual-use items in accordance with laws and regulations.” The minister also reiterated China’s willingness to help find a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

Beijing on numerous occasions has touted its "special relationship" with Moscow. China is not a neutral observer. Xi has met with Putin many times since Putin's War began, but to date has not accepted an invitaion to meet with Ukraine president Zelenskyy.

Xi's "peace plan" is basically to freeze everything in place, which in practice would constitute a victory for Putin and the theft of Ukrainian lands.

 

[dmpi]

Politically China wants to play both sides but more importantly they don't want to be on the losing side.

 

[Loulit01]

I hold Xi's word in the same regard I hold Putin's and Trump's.

 

[Juin]

Politically China wants to play both sides but more importantly they don't want to be on the losing side.

Sounds like good diplomacy to me. Maybe the EU could learn from the Chinese.

 

[Roadvirus]

China vows not to sell arms to any party in Ukraine war

China's foreign minister says the country won’t sell weapons to either side in the war in Ukraine. Qin Gang was responding to Western concerns that Beijing could provide military assistance to Russia. China has maintained that it is neutral in the conflict, while backing Russia politically...

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Beijing on numerous occasions has touted its "special relationship" with Moscow. China is not a neutral observer. Xi has met with Putin many times since Putin's War began, but to date has not accepted an invitaion to meet with Ukraine president Zelenskyy.

Xi's "peace plan" is basically to freeze everything in place, which in practice would constitute a victory for Putin and the theft of Ukrainian lands.

The increase in Chinese components in Russian weapons salvaged by Ukraine say otherwise.

 

[soylentgreen]

Russias economy is collapsing due to the war. And who should step in and offer assistance. Perhaps russia's biggest problem is becoming an indentured servant to china. After all that is how china controls countries like madagasca. Pay for their infrastructure and allow china to influence their politics.

I think chiina wants to own russia before america does.

 

[mrjurrs]

Sounds like good diplomacy to me. Maybe the EU could learn from the Chinese.

Like the EU doesn't have a direct interest in this war? Look at a map and see if you can tell a difference.

 

[EnigmaO01]

Russias economy is collapsing due to the war. And who should step in and offer assistance. Perhaps russia's biggest problem is becoming an indentured servant to china. After all that is how china controls countries like madagasca. Pay for their infrastructure and allow china to influence their politics.

I think chiina wants to own russia before america does.

American never wanted to own Russia. Why would we want to own that *hithole country?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

China vows not to sell arms to any party in Ukraine war

China's foreign minister says the country won’t sell weapons to either side in the war in Ukraine. Qin Gang was responding to Western concerns that Beijing could provide military assistance to Russia. China has maintained that it is neutral in the conflict, while backing Russia politically...

apnews.com

Beijing on numerous occasions has touted its "special relationship" with Moscow. China is not a neutral observer. Xi has met with Putin many times since Putin's War began, but to date has not accepted an invitaion to meet with Ukraine president Zelenskyy.

Xi's "peace plan" is basically to freeze everything in place, which in practice would constitute a victory for Putin and the theft of Ukrainian lands.

Except Chinese components are already being found in Russian weapons recovered by UKR.
I don't trust any promises made by China.

 

[soylentgreen]

American never wanted to own Russia. Why would we want to own that *hithole country?

China does not want to own russia either. What it does want is russia in its pocket. It is not about conquering another country. It is about controlling the politics of that country by getting it into financial debt to china. Something it has done with small countries who have taken investment money from china and now vote in chinas favour whenever china needs them to.

War does not comquer all just because the americans know no other way than to pick up a gun.

 

[oneworld2]

China vows not to sell arms to any party in Ukraine war

China's foreign minister says the country won’t sell weapons to either side in the war in Ukraine. Qin Gang was responding to Western concerns that Beijing could provide military assistance to Russia. China has maintained that it is neutral in the conflict, while backing Russia politically...

apnews.com

Beijing on numerous occasions has touted its "special relationship" with Moscow. China is not a neutral observer. Xi has met with Putin many times since Putin's War began, but to date has not accepted an invitaion to meet with Ukraine president Zelenskyy.

Xi's "peace plan" is basically to freeze everything in place, which in practice would constitute a victory for Putin and the theft of Ukrainian lands.

I thought the whole Ukraine thing was that a state should be able to make its own decisions on its own best interest?

If China wanted to supply Russia with vast amounts of arms, along with a much more open and proactive diplomatic support it has that right. Right?

Like all of those with a good western indoctrination, these simple and obvious observations are largely absent from the commentary.

 

[EnigmaO01]

China does not want to own russia either. What it does want is russia in its pocket. It is not about conquering another country. It is about controlling the politics of that country by getting it into financial debt to china. Something it has done with small countries who have taken investment money from china and now vote in chinas favour whenever china needs them to.

War does not comquer all just because the americans know no other way than to pick up a gun.

In case you haven't noticed American has not conquered anyone (at least not successfully) in a long long time.

 

[soylentgreen]

In case you haven't noticed American has not conquered anyone (at least not successfully) in a long long time.

True . But that does not stop america from considering war rather than economic take overs such as china does. America rattles sabers while china slips a few dollars into a back pocket.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

True . But that does not stop america from considering war rather than economic take overs such as china does. America rattles sabers while china slips a few dollars into a back pocket.

Yes, that is accurate.

China slips a few dollars into one pocket, and takes them back from the other.

China is going to lie to us and also lie to Russia by giving Russia 1/20th of what they agreed to.

 

[soylentgreen]

Yes, that is accurate.

China slips a few dollars into one pocket, and takes them back from the other.

China is going to lie to us and also lie to Russia by giving Russia 1/20th of what they agreed to.

If russia is not careful they will end up being china's bitch. Would be amusing if it was not such a scary thought.

 

[EnigmaO01]

True . But that does not stop america from considering war rather than economic take overs such as china does. America rattles sabers while china slips a few dollars into a back pocket.

You got me there. Vietnam and Iraq were not our business. Terrible mistakes. As far as Afghanistan is concerned we should have left as soon as it was clear we didn't get bin Laden. But to me Ukraine is different. If there ever was a just war that is it, and I have no problem helping the Ukrainians rout Russia out of their country.

 

[soylentgreen]

You got me there. Vietnam and Iraq were not our business. Terrible mistakes. As far as Afghanistan is concerned we should have left as soon as it was clear we didn't get bin Laden. But to me Ukraine is different. If there ever was a just war that is it and I have no problem helping the Ukrainians rout Russia out of their country.

I agree. Ukraine needs help and we should all provide.
But anyone who thinks china has russia's best interest at heart has no idea how the chinese work.

 

[Juin]

But anyone who thinks china has russia's best interest at heart has no idea how the chinese work.

And how do you yourself know how the Chinese work? What is safe to say is that all nations have their own interests foremost, the Chinese no less than others. Scholz, von der Leyen, Macron have been to China, are they being silly?

 

[Median Voter]

The increase in Chinese components in Russian weapons salvaged by Ukraine say otherwise.

It's almost like the reason is because Russia is not receiving any imports from the EU now and is instead filling that void with Chinese electrical components.

 

[Juin]

It's almost like the reason is because Russia is not receiving any imports from the EU now and is instead filling that void with Chinese electrical components.

I am not sure it is even that. The same parties complained elsewhere that western components were present in Russian weapons.

 

[Juin]

I thought the whole Ukraine thing was that a state should be able to make its own decisions on its own best interest?
If China wanted to supply Russia with vast amounts of arms, along with a much more open and proactive diplomatic support it has that right. Right?
Like all of those with a good western indoctrination, these simple and obvious observations are largely absent from the commentary.

Nato's Jens Stoltenberg argued animatedly- as is possible in that individual cold and distasteful as a viper- that the Russia has no say on security arrangements between nations. The principle of sovereignty, according to that clown, meant nations ought to be able to contract their own security arrangements without interference from others. Now there appears to be a hue and cry over China and Russia crafting their own security arrangements.

 

[Rogue Valley]

I agree. Ukraine needs help and we should all provide. But anyone who thinks china has russia's best interest at heart has no idea how the chinese work.

China has China's interests at heart, period.

The "Silk Road" initiative is simply an attractive way to lure countries into Chinese debt.

Beijing is selling/transferring weapon-components to the Russians. China is certainly not a neutral player in this conflict.

 

[Juin]

Beijing is selling/transferring weapon-components to the Russians. China is certainly not a neutral player in this conflict.

Why should China be anymore neutral than the Eu has been? How is neutrality in China's self interest? If the Russian Federation collapses China could easily find itself hemmed in in the Pacific to east and Nato at Vladivostok

 

[Luce]

China lies on the regular.

 

[Luce]

Why should China be anymore neutral than the Eu has been? How is neutrality in China's self interest? If the Russian Federation collapses China could easily find itself hemmed in in the Pacific to east and Nato at Vladivostok

If the Russian federation collapses, China will be too busy grabbing a chunk of Yakutsk and Kamchata to be bothered.