China is 100 years ahead of the West

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What if the world wants communism? Or specifically, what if a specific country wants it?

Too bad for them. We were not about to let Communism conquer the world.

This was the problem in Vietnam, if there ever were a fair election held, the Communists would have won.

Thus our use of military force there.

No, what undermined the war effort was the war effort. For the first time, Americans got to see what a war looks like, and they didn't like it. Mai Lai, the Tet Offensive, etc.

Nonsense. People are responsible for their own decisions to undermine the war effort.

because at that point, the Saigon Regime was barely holding on to Saigon. It would have been throwing good money after bad.

We'll never know if the additional money would have helped. Because leftist traitors blocked it from being sent.

I do agree though that we should never have pulled our troops out. But that too was due to leftist traitors undermining the war effort.

We never should have been there to start with.

Nonsense. We had every right to prevent the spread of Communism.

Hey, the 1950's called, they want their McCarthyism back.

McCarthyism is exactly what the nation needed in the late 60s and early 70s.

Again, where is our embassy to Taiwan? Oh, that's right, we don't have one because we recognize it as part of China.

That does not change the reality that Taiwan is our ally and we will defend them.

again, let's start with the Genocide we are funding in Gaza.

Off topic, but falsely accusing Israel of genocide means that they now get to keep the West Bank all to themselves.

You should read up on the East Turkmen Islamic Movement (ETIM). The US classified it as a terrorist organization.

Probably unjustly so due to pressure from China.

We held Uyghurs at Gitmo before repatriating them to China.

We only held them because of false accusations from China.

We did not repatriate them to China because we recognized that they were innocent people who would be murdered by the Chinese government.

You are proving the old adage, that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

There is a difference. Terrorists target civilians. Freedom fighters do not target civilians.

Then it really doesn't apply to China, which recognizes Tibetans and Uyghurs as minority groups (along with some 50 other groups that aren't Han Chinese.)

That is incorrect. China is actively committing genocide against both cultures.

Again, you are proving my point.

That is incorrect. Punishing outrageous examples of antisemitism and neonazism by giving the West bank to Israel does not prove your point.

 

[tharock220]

100 years? There's nothing in that video the US couldn't do.

Now let's consider the shale gas in outer Mongolia. The Chinese state owned petroleum companies don't have the expertise to extract it. Western oil companies have already developed the technology, but since China requires the sharing of intellectual property in any project involving state enterprises, said western oil companies have refused production deals.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Now, because I criticize both sides equally, this is where I'm going to rip on liberals a bit. We used to have public housing high-rises in this city. Almost all of them were eventually torn down because they were dangerous places to live. Instead, they had the brilliant idea to just give everyone a voucher.

I remember the EXACT same thing happening in Minneapolis in the Seventies.
This was on East Lake Street, I was in Apt #3 above the store.


Rent in 1978 was $110 a month, it was about 125 sq ft, had a kitchenette built into the
wall with one of those sink-stove-mini fridge units and a corner bathroom with a triangle
shaped shower, toilet and sink, all in one room.
The term was SRO - single room occupancy, and it was ideal for the poor college kid
with a part time dishwasher job at the greasy spoon diner down on the corner.
That college kid was me.

But what I do NOT remember was it being liberals objecting to it.
I remember rich NIMBY homeowners objecting to it but they did not strike me as liberals exactly.

But yes, to your overall point, all major cities should have KEPT and even maybe subsidized all
those old SRO's, transient hotels and flophouses because as bad as they were, they were still a damn
sight better than homeless erecting blue tarp tents on the sidewalk and defecating all over it.

 

[JoeB131]

Too bad for them. We were not about to let Communism conquer the world.

Um, trying to dictate to other countries what kind of government they should have is ultimately self-defeating.

Take Cuba. We've been punishing Cuba for 65 years for picking Communism. The Communists are still there.

Thus our use of military force there.

How did that work out for us again? 56,000 dead, hundreds of thousands of others injured, suffering from PTSD, getting sick due to exposure to Agent Orange (which the government lied about for years).

Nonsense. People are responsible for their own decisions to undermine the war effort.

When did we vote for a war? The war was never "declared".

We'll never know if the additional money would have helped. Because leftist traitors blocked it from being sent.

I do agree though that we should never have pulled our troops out. But that too was due to leftist traitors undermining the war effort.

Actually, most Americans wanted us to pull out troops, not just the "leftists", whoever they are.

That does not change the reality that Taiwan is our ally and we will defend them.

I'm sure we'll lose a couple of shiny aircraft carriers in the process, but once it's go time, there's not much we can do to stop it.

Probably unjustly so due to pressure from China.

No, more like we wanted China to go along with every stupid thing we were about to do in the "War on Terror".

We only held them because of false accusations from China.

We did not repatriate them to China because we recognized that they were innocent people who would be murdered by the Chinese government.

Actually, we DID eventually repatriate them to China. In fact, most of the 780 people we held at Gitmo were eventually sent back. Not a one of them has been put on trial in a US Court for "Terrorism".

There is a difference. Terrorists target civilians. Freedom fighters do not target civilians.

So by your logic, the IDF are "Terrorists".

That is incorrect. Punishing outrageous examples of antisemitism and neonazism by giving the West bank to Israel does not prove your point.

Again, you can't logically support what Israel does against Hamas, and then condemn China's actions against ETIM.

That is incorrect. China is actively committing genocide against both cultures.

They are?

Well funny thing. Both groups have actually increased their population numbers since the 1940s.

Demographics of China - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Now, considering there are only 7 million Tibetans and 12 million Uyghurs, vs. 1.3 Billion or so Han Chinese, if Genocide was on the menu, I suspect they'd have no problem pulling it off.