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China boosts military spending by billions

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for those still stuck on "defending democracy" in the corrupt Ukraine...shift your focus here please
The Chinese government will boost its military spending by 7.2% this year, rising to a total budget of 1.56 trillion Yuan.

In U.S. dollars, China's budget now sits at $230 billion, up nearly $16 billion from its budget in 2022. China's Ministry of Finance announced the new infusion of cash in its annual report on Sunday. The spending increase comes as the U.S. warns of a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan in the near future. U.S. officials have also warned China against sending lethal aid to support Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Despite the increase, U.S. military spending still dwarfs China's. America's military is engaged in efforts across the globe, including the supply of weapons for defending Ukraine.
 
China has taken a lesson from America. Defense spending is not only useful when defending your country and interest but also as a revenue generator where you sell your products to other countries.
 
for those still stuck on "defending democracy" in the corrupt Ukraine...shift your focus here please
The Chinese government will boost its military spending by 7.2% this year, rising to a total budget of 1.56 trillion Yuan.

In U.S. dollars, China's budget now sits at $230 billion, up nearly $16 billion from its budget in 2022. China's Ministry of Finance announced the new infusion of cash in its annual report on Sunday. The spending increase comes as the U.S. warns of a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan in the near future. U.S. officials have also warned China against sending lethal aid to support Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Despite the increase, U.S. military spending still dwarfs China's. America's military is engaged in efforts across the globe, including the supply of weapons for defending Ukraine.
They still got a ways to go yet.

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They still got a ways to go yet.

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true. but they are going that route and will continue the build ups, and a lot of our spending is foreign bases where we sit around
Xi has called for 2027 as the final date to be ready for Taiwan..with all our focus on Ukraine instead, i dont think we are "ready"
 
true. but they are going that route and will continue the build ups, and a lot of our spending is foreign bases where we sit around
Xi has called for 2027 as the final date to be ready for Taiwan..with all our focus on Ukraine instead, i dont think we are "ready"
By 2027 their economy will be so far in the hole they won't even be able see daylight.
 
true. but they are going that route and will continue the build ups, and a lot of our spending is foreign bases where we sit around
Xi has called for 2027 as the final date to be ready for Taiwan..with all our focus on Ukraine instead, i dont think we are "ready"

You seem to have forgotten our navy and marines, not to mention that bigass army of ours that isn't doing much right now.

Plus, Japan is rearming (with shit that works), and South Korea is no slouch.
 
By 2027 their economy will be so far in the hole they won't even be able see daylight.
i keep hearing this for various factor like their aging population, but they dont use guest workers.
If it got to that point im sure they would. either way their economy is still in good shape
 
You seem to have forgotten our navy and marines, not to mention that bigass army of ours that isn't doing much right now.
dont think tht's much help against Chian takeover of Taiwan
Plus, Japan is rearming (with shit that works), and South Korea is no slouch.
it depends who gets involved. Im not even sure the USA will do much more then token assistance
IOWs its ez to war againt Russia using Ukraine as cannon fodder -not so when our Navy is up against it
 
i keep hearing this for various factor like their aging population, but they dont use guest workers.
If it got to that point im sure they would. either way their economy is still in good shape

Do you think there are hundreds of millions of guest workers just dying to live at Chinese factories?
 
I think CCP is poised to reunify Taiwan as Putin backed MAGA is pushing CCP's buttons since Ukraine war started. In Asia this year, Taiwan increased its defense budget 14%, Japan increased >25%, South Korea increase 6.8%... Also CCP has sold out large amount of US debts twice 2022-2023 and is buying in gold to prepare for the war. So if Ukraine war continues and Putin is still in office, CCP maybe vulnerable to be influenced by Putin to get involved in some sort of confrontation in Taiwan strait. Let's hope CCP can wake up. Or else, CCP needs to learn a lesson. Maybe its not a bad thing. Maybe Chinese will finally get rid of CCP and have democracy, who knows.
 
i keep hearing this for various factor like their aging population, but they dont use guest workers.
If it got to that point im sure they would. either way their economy is still in good shape
How many guest workers would they need?
 
How many guest workers would they need?
they can afford them. also they are leading in AI..Biden hasnt go a clue we are in a cold war with China,
muchless simple things like trade agreement in their favor
 
they can afford them. also they are leading in AI..Biden hasnt go a clue we are in a cold war with China,
muchless simple things like trade agreement in their favor
I wouldn't worry too much about AI or other advanced technologies CCP has. It's all copied or stole from US or other western countries. CCP with its oppressive practice in freedom of speech and tight censorship can only suppress innovation and invention and will be always dependent on other countries technologies.
 
I wouldn't worry too much about AI or other advanced technologies CCP has. It's all copied or stole from US or other western countries. CCP with its oppressive practice in freedom of speech and tight censorship can only suppress innovation and invention and will be always dependent on other countries technologies.
wise. and true. but look what they have one already by "stealing" now add in a growing military threat =
existential threat to the pax Americana
 
for those still stuck on "defending democracy" in the corrupt Ukraine...shift your focus here please
The Chinese government will boost its military spending by 7.2% this year, rising to a total budget of 1.56 trillion Yuan.

In U.S. dollars, China's budget now sits at $230 billion, up nearly $16 billion from its budget in 2022. China's Ministry of Finance announced the new infusion of cash in its annual report on Sunday. The spending increase comes as the U.S. warns of a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan in the near future. U.S. officials have also warned China against sending lethal aid to support Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Despite the increase, U.S. military spending still dwarfs China's. America's military is engaged in efforts across the globe, including the supply of weapons for defending Ukraine.
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Yawn...
 
China has taken a lesson from America. Defense spending is not only useful when defending your country and interest but also as a revenue generator where you sell your products to other countries.

Plus, that military might directs economic activities not related to weapons which benefits the USA. Who and what will be traded and how.
 
i keep hearing this for various factor like their aging population, but they dont use guest workers.
If it got to that point im sure they would. either way their economy is still in good shape
That depends on whether they start supplying lethal aid to Russia for their illegal war against Ukraine. If they do they will face economic collapse.
 
That depends on whether they start supplying lethal aid to Russia for their illegal war against Ukraine. If they do they will face economic collapse.
To be honest, if CCP wants to supply Russia, you will not know. Because who will tell? CCP or Russia? In the past wars (Vietnam war, Korea war), Russia was the #1 weapon supplier for CCP and helped CCP to win both wars. So historically speaking CCP is obliged to pay those favors back regardless. I believe Putin did also give CCP tremendous pressure because of above reasons. However, due to strong external pressures, CCP has refused Russia's request for more aid. Just so you know, CCP is a party branched from Russia's communist party originally. Although CCP later cut ties with Russia's communist party and developed into capitalism/socialism hybrid, it still have to live next to Russia. CCP cannot fight on both north (Russia) and south (Taiwan strait) sides. It has to get alone with its neighbors (albeit a crazy one). So for CCP to say no to Putin requires a lot of courage. I think CCP did tell Putin off. And I believe Putin previously told CCP that there were only two of us left against the world. If Russia collapsed, the next will be you. And you will be alone facing the external threat... So if you were CCP, what would you do when MAGA republicans calling CCP the biggest threat of the world and challenge CCP's buttom line in Taiwan strait?
 
wise. and true. but look what they have one already by "stealing" now add in a growing military threat =
existential threat to the pax Americana
True, but don't overestimate CCP, they can steal and copy but never as good as US. I won't read too much into it. CCP wants to catch up because it needs to protect its trading goods and supply chains worldwide. CCP's only military base is in Africa that's because piracy there are rampant and they disrupt CCP's supply chain and intercept CCP's trading goods. Unlike most of the western countries, CCP has no ambition to occupy or colonize lands. However, every time when CCP built belts or roads, western countries got nervous and felt CCP is coming to colonize that country. On the contrary, what CCP really wanted was the access to the cheap raw materials via roads and railways for its own industrial machinery and then to deliver its goods worldwide. Money is all CCP wants and nothing more. CCP don't have land ambition and will never enter into the space race. If US wants to use the same trick it did for soviet, it simply won't work. It's just a different mentality because CCP just don't' have the desire to dominate, unlike soviet.
 
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To be honest, if CCP wants to supply Russia, you will not know. Because who will tell? CCP or Russia? In the past wars (Vietnam war, Korea war), Russia was the #1 weapon supplier for CCP and helped CCP to win both wars. So historically speaking CCP is obliged to pay those favors back regardless. I believe Putin did also give CCP tremendous pressure because of above reasons. However, due to strong external pressures, CCP has refused Russia's request for more aid. Just so you know, CCP is a party branched from Russia's communist party originally. Although CCP later cut ties with Russia's communist party and developed into capitalism/socialism hybrid, it still have to live next to Russia. CCP cannot fight on both north (Russia) and south (Taiwan strait) sides. It has to get alone with its neighbors (albeit a crazy one). So for CCP to say no to Putin requires a lot of courage. I think CCP did tell Putin off. And I believe Putin previously told CCP that there were only two of us left against the world. If Russia collapsed, the next will be you. And you will be alone facing the external threat... So if you were CCP, what would you do when MAGA republicans calling CCP the biggest threat of the world and challenge CCP's buttom line in Taiwan strait?
I do not think the Chinese like the poor showing Russia is making in Ukraine and are even doubtful that any help they send will turn the tide. The last thing they want is to be part of a losing alliance. Forget what they think of us they also see all of their best customers are also very pro-Ukraine. It is going to be costly for them if they get multilateral sanctions like Russia has. Remember China has seen extreme growth while the Russian economy has been flailing.
 
I do not think the Chinese like the poor showing Russia is making in Ukraine and are even doubtful that any help they send will turn the tide. The last thing they want is to be part of a losing alliance. Forget what they think of us they also see all of their best customers are also very pro-Ukraine. It is going to be costly for them if they get multilateral sanctions like Russia has. Remember China has seen extreme growth while the Russian economy has been flailing.
That's very true as well.
 
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