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Child Support Payback

trixare4kids said:
BS Nothing is being taken from the man.
He should have thought about all this before he decided to impregnate the woman.
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Money is being taken away from him...
 
Bodhisattva said:
This is annoying... the only reason he has no choice is because of laws... and laws can be changed.

That TRUMPS any counter argument.
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We can change the laws to allow adults to murder each other...is that the ethical argument you are now trying to make? Just arbitrarily change laws so that men feel better about getting out their responsibilities?

Laws are based on principles. The principle you are trying so hard to convolute here to enable change in laws is 'equality'...and it's a unethical misuse.

If you can 'just change the law' why arent you fighting to make abortion illegal? Why arent you fighting to have control over women's bodies so you can choose for them? Because you know the Constitutional foundation behind those laws is solid.

So are laws that make people responsible for their actions when possible, so that other people dont have to pay for risks they knowingly accepted.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Maybe the woman shouldn't have either... and if she knew she would have to pay him back I bet she wouldn't have been so irresponsible in the first place.
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With that logic, why arent men, who know they risk 18 yrs of child support...not choosing to not have sex?

Same thing. And men arent making the smart choice...why would women?
 
Lursa said:
We can change the laws that allow adults to murder each other...is that the ethical argument you are now trying to make? Just arbitrarily change laws so that men feel better about getting out their responsibilities?

Laws are based on principles. The principle you are trying so hard to convolute here to enable change in laws is 'equality'...and it's a unethical misuse.

If you can 'just change the law' why arent you fighting to make abortion illegal? Why arent you fighting to have control over women's bodies so you can choose for them? Because you know the Constitutional foundation behind those laws is solid.

So are laws that make people responsible for their actions when possible, so that other people dont have to pay for risks they knowingly accepted.
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Women are not responsible for their actions when thery have a child they can not afford.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Maybe the woman shouldn't have either... and if she knew she would have to pay him back I bet she wouldn't have been so irresponsible in the first place.
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Dude it’s not about paying back lol it’s a kid that needs support. Like I said she’s raising the kid she dealing with her decisions. You’re really not making sense
 
trixare4kids said:
Aww, boo hoo.
Good old dad to be should have thought about the consequences of his actions before he decided to engage in consensual sex.
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Mom can be as irresponsible as she chooses
 
year2late said:
As can the father.

They both has consequences. And the woman has far more consequences than the man.
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Not really. She has choices that have very little consequences for her
 
vegas giants said:
Ever pay child support?
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Actually I had primary custody and did not ask for child support. He agreed to be flexible for drop offs and vacations. So we avoided protracted nasty court battles that would not be good for any of us.

Did I pay child support? I paid for medical/dental/housing/preschool/food/clothing etc. Yes, I supported my child.
 
vegas giants said:
Minimize? I hope she chooses abortion if she is concerned. It is much safer
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Again...safer is relative. If she is morally opposed to abortion....she would likely disagree with what you term as "safer".

When people make medical decisions they make them for a variety of reasons. Very frequently they are made with individual sense of morality in play.
 
year2late said:
Again...safer is relative. If she is morally opposed to abortion....she would likely disagree with what you term as "safer".

When people make medical decisions they make them for a variety of reasons. Very frequently they are made with individual sense of morality in play.
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She may choose to have the baby then. And give it up for adoption
 
year2late said:
Actually I had primary custody and did not ask for child support. He agreed to be flexible for drop offs and vacations. So we avoided protracted nasty court battles that would not be good for any of us.

Did I pay child support? I paid for medical/dental/housing/preschool/food/clothing etc. Yes, I supported my child.
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How nice for you. Me too
 
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