Maybe someone better at math than I can figure this one out...
About how much does it cost, PER student, to have public schools?
Why not, instead, have a public education FUND, pool that money, at the very least...and let PARENTS hire private tutors.
Likely, the kids get a better education, costs the parents LESS, AND the private tutors likely get paid more if they are any good...and....as a bonus, it puts LOTS of people to work...to the tune of a tutor per every household.
Over simplified, but I think this gets the point across about public school as it currently stands, yes?
I believe that teaching kids to read is more important.
I think it's pretty easy, we keep pouring more and more money into our classroom with less and less results. The teachers unions protect teachers, not the students. The teachers unions could care less about the students. You can't fire a bad teacher, now tell me they care about the students. Teachers unions only have thing in mind, exchange their vote for higher wages, benefits, and shorter hours..
As a person who sat on the table during these proceedings - the answer is a definitive and loud YES.
By what measure are they succeeding, lol?
What evidence do you have that the teachers are failing?
Yeah? Then answer this? What did the teachers being fired do to get it, and if it was for poor performance, how long, pray tell, did said teacher have to be an issue, before the issue got dealt with?
And as a matter of curiosity, how much influence did parents have on such a situation...as in, parents complaining about their kid not being able to read, or what not?
that was not the allegation. Nice try in moving the goal posts however.
A 40% drop out rate, and a 20% functional illiteracy rate to start with.
Since teachers are evaluated on an annual basis - it obviously took place during one year of time period.
Parents have a huge impact on their children's education.
Well...if a teach is not failing, they they, by default, must be succeeding.
You asserted that they were NOT failing, by asking HOW they were failing...so I countered, by asking you how they were succeeding.
Nice attempt at a dodge, though.
I am well aware that a parent has a huge impact one their child's education.
That's not what I asked, though. I asked how much of an impact a parent has on a teacher's job.
Why does that tell you that classroom teachers are failing and NOT the inherent structure of the system that allows students to fail as a matter of the simple price we pay for the system being the way it is?
And what should they read ABOUT?
You remove at least a basic music and art history, and you will end up with an ignorant society.
But this is a non issue, in my opinion. Because it doesn't HAVE to be a choice. SHOULDN'T have to be a choice. We should not be forced to CHOOSE which are children learn...math, or music. We should have an education system that is more than competent enough to, I don't know...handle both?
A great one. A large one. A significant one.
The fact is a simple one: statistics show that the vast majority of our public school students get an education and are successful in life.
Because the system hasn't changed much, not nearly as much as the results.
If what Ive read about this so far is true..and im going to be reading more on it tomorrow for sure...that the teachers union in chi turned down 16% pay increase for this year and they average 76,000 a year salaries..."IF" that is true...and I dont know if it is yet...then I have to say they are dead wrong for striking.
It's a little difficult to worry much about art and music for students when 40% of them don't graduate high school. CPS: Highest Graduation Rate On Record For Five-Year Grads in 2012, District Predicts
And when only 20% of 8th Graders test at grade level for reading . . . and when only 21% of 8th Graders test at grade level for math. The CPS system is failing generations.
That "horrible evaluation system" has been around for forty years. CPS and teachers collaborated on a new system...the teachers' union is fighting it's "trial implementation" where this year's results would only impact non-tenured teachers and be advisory to tenured ones.
How bout the ones in Chi town?
Honestly, what good is music and art appreceation when the students CAN NOT READ AT ALL???
NO ONE should be allowed out of the third grade without the ability to read, and no one should be allowed out of 8th grade without a comprehension level of at least that high. ... PERIOD... reading is a fundamental part of learning...
elementary and secondary schools are teaching kinds WHAT to think, not HOW to think.
What about it?
Why does that tell you that classroom teachers are failing and NOT the inherent structure of the system that allows students to fail as a matter of the simple price we pay for the system being the way it is?
It doesnt matter Chicago is spending $21,024 per student per year to educate them. If you give parents a voucher for $15,000 per student, you can find a GOOD private school... and it would leave the remaining $6024.00 in the pot to help other students who stay.
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