MaggieD
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You may remember the shooting of Laquan MCDonald, a black man shot 16 times by an officer as he appeared to be walking away. The officer arrived on scene, many other officers were present. He jumped from his squad car and opened fire. The man had a knife in his hand but was walking away. First shot put him on the ground. 15 more fired. No first aid offered. He was the only officer to shoot. All cops on the scene lied on their reports although it was known there was dash cam video. The video wasn't released until the press went full tilt thru FOIA. The day the court ruled the video had to be released, the cops arrested the LEO and he is awaiting trial. Others have been dismissed and even prosecuted for their participation in the coverup. That's the back story.
Today, the CPD announced sweeping changes in use of deadly force, even tasers. Their new policy emphasizes the sanctity of life and clearly outlines when and if deadly force can be used. The department's 14,000 officer complement will go thru extensive training on the new policies as well as giving them new and proven ways to de-escalate situations.
You may be interested in the details. Chicago police announce new limits on use of force - Chicago Tribune
Victory is on the horizon. Landmark fires and prosecutions will have a powerful effect and, I believe, things will change for the much better. perhaps this approach will catch on across the country and both cops and perps will be safer on the streets.
Your thoughts?
Also, by 2018, every officer and every squad car will be equipped with a camera.
The face of the Ferguson Effect now belongs to a longtime Chicago police officer.
She didn't want to use her gun in a physical confrontation with a violent man, Chicago police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.
So she's in the hospital, in serious condition, her face repeatedly pounded into the concrete of the West Side in a beating that lasted several minutes as she fought with an assailant suspected by police of being high on PCP.
The 17-year Chicago police officer could have drawn her gun and stopped him. But she didn't.
Why?
She told Johnson that she was worried about being the next big story on national news.
Johnson talked about this after he participated in the Carter Harrison and Lambert Tree Awards honoring Chicago police and firefighters Thursday at City Hall.
"As I was at the hospital last night, visiting with her, she looked at me and said she thought she was gonna die and she knew that she should shoot this guy, but she chose not to, because she didn't want her family or the department to go through the scrutiny the next day on national news," Johnson said.
"This officer could have lost her life. … We have to change the narrative of the law enforcement across this country," Johnson said.
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You may remember the shooting of Laquan MCDonald, a black man shot 16 times by an officer as he appeared to be walking away. The officer arrived on scene, many other officers were present. He jumped from his squad car and opened fire. The man had a knife in his hand but was walking away. First shot put him on the ground. 15 more fired. No first aid offered. He was the only officer to shoot. All cops on the scene lied on their reports although it was known there was dash cam video. The video wasn't released until the press went full tilt thru FOIA. The day the court ruled the video had to be released, the cops arrested the LEO and he is awaiting trial. Others have been dismissed and even prosecuted for their participation in the coverup. That's the back story.
Today, the CPD announced sweeping changes in use of deadly force, even tasers. Their new policy emphasizes the sanctity of life and clearly outlines when and if deadly force can be used. The department's 14,000 officer complement will go thru extensive training on the new policies as well as giving them new and proven ways to de-escalate situations.
You may be interested in the details. Chicago police announce new limits on use of force - Chicago Tribune
Victory is on the horizon. Landmark fires and prosecutions will have a powerful effect and, I believe, things will change for the much better. perhaps this approach will catch on across the country and both cops and perps will be safer on the streets.
Your thoughts?
Also, by 2018, every officer and every squad car will be equipped with a camera.
Hi Maggs. Hope you're doing good today.
I read the following article earlier today, and it made me absolutely sick to my stomach: Chicago cop is the face of the Ferguson Effect | Chicago Tribune
Well, 15 shots on a Black man down is sort of an overkill.
You may remember the shooting of Laquan MCDonald, a black man shot 16 times by an officer as he appeared to be walking away. The officer arrived on scene, many other officers were present. He jumped from his squad car and opened fire. The man had a knife in his hand but was walking away. First shot put him on the ground. 15 more fired. No first aid offered. He was the only officer to shoot. All cops on the scene lied on their reports although it was known there was dash cam video. The video wasn't released until the press went full tilt thru FOIA. The day the court ruled the video had to be released, the cops arrested the LEO and he is awaiting trial. Others have been dismissed and even prosecuted for their participation in the coverup. That's the back story.
Today, the CPD announced sweeping changes in use of deadly force, even tasers. Their new policy emphasizes the sanctity of life and clearly outlines when and if deadly force can be used. The department's 14,000 officer complement will go thru extensive training on the new policies as well as giving them new and proven ways to de-escalate situations.
You may be interested in the details. Chicago police announce new limits on use of force - Chicago Tribune
Victory is on the horizon. Landmark fires and prosecutions will have a powerful effect and, I believe, things will change for the much better. perhaps this approach will catch on across the country and both cops and perps will be safer on the streets.
Your thoughts?
Also, by 2018, every officer and every squad car will be equipped with a camera.
I like the idea of emphasis on deescalation, using time and distance n all that, but... whats with this rendering aid business?
They're not trained or properly equipped for that, it creates a weird disincentive to defending yourself properly, if they just used their weapon their heart is pounding far too hard from adrenaline to effectively do so and if their attention is on a wound then their head isn't on a swivel securing the scene or from possible 2nd shooters.
I'd rather we improve EMT response time, or better yet implement first aid drones w/ a medical proxy.
Well, 15 shots on a Black man down is sort of an overkill.
And this is exactly what Chicago's new policy is going to result in. More officers hurt or killed. But as long as black criminals aren't harmed, I guess that's all that matters. :roll:Hi Maggs. Hope you're doing good today.
I read the following article earlier today, and it made me absolutely sick to my stomach: Chicago cop is the face of the Ferguson Effect | Chicago Tribune
Maybe officers should rely more on tazers. I realize that people do die from tazers.But at the same time someone is not going to get shot 16 times with a tazer by a officer.
Screw that, tazers can kill. They should adopt a policy of asking nicely.
Maybe officers should rely more on tazers. I realize that people do die from tazers.But at the same time someone is not going to get shot 16 times with a tazer by a officer.
And then.... when the criminal response to that request with..
"**** you white boy..."
.. the police are supposed to be like, "Well, I tried. I guess the family whose house you just broke into and stole a bunch of stuff from are on their own."
I like the idea of emphasis on deescalation, using time and distance n all that, but... whats with this rendering aid business?
They're not trained or properly equipped for that, it creates a weird disincentive to defending yourself properly, if they just used their weapon their heart is pounding far too hard from adrenaline to effectively do so and if their attention is on a wound then their head isn't on a swivel securing the scene or from possible 2nd shooters.
I'd rather we improve EMT response time, or better yet implement first aid drones w/ a medical proxy.
I remember an addled man in his 80s 90s in a nursing home who had. Small paring knife. Inhis addledstate, he, using a walker, was threating staff. They called the cops. If I remember correctly, cops used a rubber bullet at ten feet and hit him in the midsection. He died from blood loss.
One of our posters who works in a nursing home said his training would have had them strip the mattress off the bed and gently back him to the wall. Quite a difference.
You may remember the shooting of Laquan MCDonald, a black man shot 16 times by an officer as he appeared to be walking away. The officer arrived on scene, many other officers were present. He jumped from his squad car and opened fire. The man had a knife in his hand but was walking away. First shot put him on the ground. 15 more fired. No first aid offered. He was the only officer to shoot. All cops on the scene lied on their reports although it was known there was dash cam video. The video wasn't released until the press went full tilt thru FOIA. The day the court ruled the video had to be released, the cops arrested the LEO and he is awaiting trial. Others have been dismissed and even prosecuted for their participation in the coverup. That's the back story.
Today, the CPD announced sweeping changes in use of deadly force, even tasers. Their new policy emphasizes the sanctity of life and clearly outlines when and if deadly force can be used. The department's 14,000 officer complement will go thru extensive training on the new policies as well as giving them new and proven ways to de-escalate situations.
You may be interested in the details. Chicago police announce new limits on use of force - Chicago Tribune
Victory is on the horizon. Landmark fires and prosecutions will have a powerful effect and, I believe, things will change for the much better. perhaps this approach will catch on across the country and both cops and perps will be safer on the streets.
Your thoughts?
Also, by 2018, every officer and every squad car will be equipped with a camera.
I wonder how many cops will die because of these new "limits".
Let me ask...
Does it take more shots on a white man down??? Less shots???
Does it matter what ethnicity the person is????
That sounds like a good way to get cut.
Besides, even if you succeed in such a ploy... then what? have a stand off with an old man in the corner while you are 3 feet away?
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