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I have no reasons to play a game. Chicago suburbs are nice, but we were not talking about the suburbs. We were talking about the actual city. Downtown is nice, but then again detroit's is not bad either.
That's like bragging your wife took 1st in a professional body building contest.
What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
I can't read the linked article, as it is behind a paywall.
Is it your intent to claim that Chicago has recently imposed tighter gun control laws than before, and that these tighter laws are responsible for the drop in the homicide rate?
The last news of any significance that I recall regarding Chicago's gun control laws was that the U.S. Supreme Court struck them down as unconstitutional; and that Chicago was scrambling to try to implement new laws that comply with the recent Supreme Court ruling. Any such laws, if they got enacted, and have any hope of standing, would be less strict than those that were struck down.
And even with that drop in the homicide rate, Chicago remains one of the most murderously violent cities in the United States—hardly any basis on which to hold them up as an example of a place that is doing anything right with regard to the issue of violent crime.
"Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"
Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com
What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
First off...if you are going to make a silly argument you have to reconcile your argument with the fact that in 2013 a federal judge ORDERED Illinois to loosen restrictions on private gun ownership and concealed carry. By your very argument, you make the other sides case for them."Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"
Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com
What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
Maybe they are just running out of innocent people to kill there? Hell..its been a rough 20 years! There have been more dead in the city of Chicago during the same duration than there were deaths in a ****ing war zone. But hey...raise the roof, bitches!!! Its time to party!!!High court strikes down Chicago handgun ban - CNN.com
I doubt gun control laws were the reason for lowered homicides
Maybe its just because it has been cold to shoot anyone in the last few weeks. 1 year is an anomaly. Better give it a few years before we move it from the "Cities to Really Really REALLY Avoid" list to the "Cities to just Really REALLY Avoid" list.Way to go Chicago. You're almost an awful place to live in, down from disgusting cess pool. Congratulations.
Toronto and Chicago are virtually the same size, population wise - we alternate back and forth as the fourth or fifth largest city in North America after Mexico City, New York and Los Angeles. In Toronto, we generally have about 50-60 murders a year, and we consider that to be quite high even if a majority of those murdered are active in gangs or crime of some sort. I hardly think 412 murders is something to cheer about although any reduction is good.
As for gun control laws, if you can indicate that the number of murders committed by use of a gun, particularly an illegal gun, has drastically fallen since the introduction of gun control regulations in Chicago, you may have a point - however, I'm guessing you've got no such evidence.
A drop of 20% in the murder rate is fairly significant I think. It is also the lowest number of homicides since the 1960's.
A drop of 20% in the murder rate is fairly significant I think. It is also the lowest number of homicides since the 1960's.
But the OP claim is it's related to gun control - I haven't seen any evidence of that. For all you know, there could have been a run on knives and 100 people benefitted from the shortage.
But the OP claim is it's related to gun control - I haven't seen any evidence of that. For all you know, there could have been a run on knives and 100 people benefitted from the shortage.
"Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"
Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com
What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
Yep. Or perhaps, this years crop of shooters just weren't as accurate as last years.... or perhaps the victims lived more this year than last years due to one of a thousand other variables and situations.
Or perhaps gun control contributed.
Weren't people moving out of Chicago as well?"Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"
Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com
What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
"Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"
Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com
What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
And you have the statistics of the guns taken from the hands of criminals, right? Should be a lot of fun...lets see how the new gun laws forced onto the state caused a decrease in murder rates. And of course...when we talk about the new gun laws we are talking about the laws mandating the state allow for less restrictive and viable concealed carry by law abiding citizens...right?Or perhaps gun control contributed.
Are you talking about homicides or gun homicides?
Good point.
It didn't say now, did it!
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