Murder, hate crime charges in death of man who died protecting daughter
I must have missed the hate crime part of the story
I must have missed the hate crime part of the story
It was right there in the text.Firek made repeated racial comments during the assault, according to police.
It was right there in the text.
There seems to be no doubt that the assailant is a jerk and deserves to be in custody. Calling someone racially insensitive names while you are fighting them doesn't, it seems to me, quite bring you into hate-crime territory.
I think the law determines that this is exactly what brings you into hate-crime territory - criminal action aggravated by racial abuse. Whether it should or not is a different matter, but I believe that by law, it does.
What aggravating factors do you believe would constitute bringing the offence into the hate-crime category?
Something that causes a reaction to a class or group of people. Such as a lynching used to show blacks what might happen to them if they dont stay in their place, or dragging a gay guy behind a pick up truck cause he is gay.
Who in this government dictates who we chose to love and hate. Set the guy free.
Calling someone racially insensitive names while you are fighting them doesn't, it seems to me, quite bring you into hate-crime territory.
For it to be a hate crime Firek would have had to deliberately target the victim because here or she was a member of a protected class.
"Hate crime" is thought crime.
It's no more a thought crime than 1st degree murder. It's a matter of motive.
By your "logic" all killings would be prosecuted as manslaughter.
Your inability to grasp the importance of motive is sad. This isn't the special olympics of law, take the ignorance elsewhere.
Intent (or not) is not the same thing as motive. Premeditation (or not) is not the same thing as motive.
Sure it is.
The difference between 1st degree murder and justified self defense is motive.
Who in this government dictates who we chose to love and hate. Set the guy free.
Don't worry Rhinefire. You are free to hate as much as you want to. You just aren't free to kill someone because of it.Who in this government dictates who we chose to love and hate. Set the guy free.
No, the actions are inherently different. One is killing in aggression, the other is not.
You don't need to establish "motive" for a killing in self-defense; that is not a crime.
"Hate crime" is thought crime.
His punishment should be no different than anyone else who walked up to some random dude and punched them, causing their death... aggressive, lethal violence... the punishment should be severe regardless.
"Hate crime." Feh.
No it isn't. He can hate blacks all he wants but if he beats one to death while calling him a "fvcking nigger" he's turned his hate into a crime.
No it isn't. He can hate blacks all he wants but if he beats one to death while calling him a "fvcking nigger" he's turned his hate into a crime. He can (and of course will) deny the racial motivation but his words at the time betray him.
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