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"Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Then why did we trust them then ?

Can you please elaborate on your theory? I do want to understand your line of thinking here. From my standpoint, this looks really bad.

No. I'm not going to elaborate.
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Benghazi was blown out of proportion.

The Iraq war has been swept under the rug.

I don't want accountability to apply only to one side of the political spectrum. It sounds like that's the view you're endorsing.


You have proven that it hasn't been swept under the rug and all the investigations have been ignored by the left. What accountability do you want? Bush wasn't impeached, why? When are you going to realize that Congressional Democrats wanted the issue not the trial because their quotes prior to Bush taking office would have destroyed them
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

No. I honor my obligations to my friends.

Its a shame you have no obligation to the truth of why 4000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis had to die in a war based on lies. Lies your friend helped convey. and again, flail as much as you want but your friend also lied to the 9-11 commission
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Right, just like it was motivated by a movie? Apparently it is ok for a Democrat Administration to lie to you but an intelligence failure is reason to call Bush a liar? Interesting logic from another leftist who ought to be worrying more about what is going on in England than here is this country

Well Con, unless you just woke up a 3 year coma you would know that President Obama has been exonerated in all 7 republican investigations into Benghazi. And the reason you call Bush a liar is because he lied about the intelligence. How funny is that. President Obama says exactly what the CIA says and he's a liar. Bush lies about the intelligence and its an intelligence failure. I get such a chuckle when cons are not only wrong but the exact opposite of what they believe is true.
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Well Con, unless you just woke up a 3 year coma you would know that President Obama has been exonerated in all 7 republican investigations into Benghazi. And the reason you call Bush a liar is because he lied about the intelligence. How funny is that. President Obama says exactly what the CIA says and he's a liar. Bush lies about the intelligence and its an intelligence failure. I get such a chuckle when cons are not only wrong but the exact opposite of what they believe is true.

What is strange is that you continue to spout the leftwing narrative and apparently have no pride in yourself for accuracy. How you coming on proving the Obama economic results I have posted as being lies? Guess some people are just destined to live in the past and ignore the present
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Its a shame you have no obligation to the truth of why 4000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis had to die in a war based on lies. Lies your friend helped convey. and again, flail as much as you want but your friend also lied to the 9-11 commission

I have said what I have to say. Good luck in your future endeavors.
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

What is strange is that you continue to spout the leftwing narrative and apparently have no pride in yourself for accuracy. How you coming on proving the Obama economic results I have posted as being lies? Guess some people are just destined to live in the past and ignore the present

blah blah leftwing narrative deflect deflect economy results. See con, you cant address the fact of 7 republican investigations have proven everything you post about Benghazi is a lie and you continue to lie about something I didn't post. Speaking of the present, 7 republican investigations have proven everything you post about Benghazi is a lie. try to focus
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

I have said what I have to say. Good luck in your future endeavors.

yes, and you what said was false and deflecting. Tenet lied to the 9-11 commission and tenet lied about curveball. Your "loyalty" to one of the chief scumbags behind the lies that led to the invasion of Iraq is why conservatives are unfit to govern.
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

blah blah leftwing narrative deflect deflect economy results. See con, you cant address the fact of 7 republican investigations have proven everything you post about Benghazi is a lie and you continue to lie about something I didn't post. Speaking of the present, 7 republican investigations have proven everything you post about Benghazi is a lie. try to focus

How you coming on proving the economic data I have posted on Obama is a lie?
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

yes, and you what said was false and deflecting. Tenet lied to the 9-11 commission and tenet lied about curveball. Your "loyalty" to one of the chief scumbags behind the lies that led to the invasion of Iraq is why conservatives are unfit to govern.

So Vern, when did the Democrats prosecute Tenet, Bush, and others in the Bush Administration? Like all liberals you want the issue but not the quotes from Democrats and certainly not the Obama foreign policy results of losing the peace in Iraq
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

How you coming on proving the economic data I have posted on Obama is a lie?

oh con, still with the dishonest reference to posts that don't exist. you really shouldn't be allowed to post here

So Vern, when did the Democrats prosecute Tenet, Bush, and others in the Bush Administration? Like all liberals you want the issue but not the quotes from Democrats and certainly not the Obama foreign policy results of losing the peace in Iraq

deflect deflect deflect. Speaking of the present, 7 republican investigations have proven everything you post about Benghazi is a lie. try to focus
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

oh con, still with the dishonest reference to posts that don't exist. you really shouldn't be allowed to post here



deflect deflect deflect. Speaking of the present, 7 republican investigations have proven everything you post about Benghazi is a lie. try to focus

So then, Vern, you believe the data I posted

Obama takes office 142 million Americans employed, implements the stimulus program for shovel ready jobs in Feb. 2009 and employment goes to 139 million in 2011 and that is a success to you

Obama takes office with a 10.6 trillion dollar debt and it is 18.2 trillion dollars today and that is a success to you

Obama takes office with a GDP of 14.7 trillion that is 17.5 trillion today and that is a success

Obama takes office with a 14.2% U-6 rate and 7.6 trillion dollars later it is 10.3% and that is a success to you

Obama takes office with Iraq totally under Govt. control and today ISIS controls many areas of Iraq and that is a success to you

Thanks for acknowledging then that the data and information I have posted is accurate
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Really? So you speak for all sovereign nations? Sounds more like an opinion of a leftwinger in London thus with no credibility

This has been the general consensus by most sovereign nations. Yes?
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Right, just like it was motivated by a movie? Apparently it is ok for a Democrat Administration to lie to you but an intelligence failure is reason to call Bush a liar? Interesting logic from another leftist who ought to be worrying more about what is going on in England than here is this country

What movie? :doh

I didn't call Bush a liar. I was just laughing at your comparison to the US consular attack in Libya and the 4K soldiers killed under Bush's administration. Also, you seem quite keen on judging a person by their location. I could be an American in London. Americans live all over the globe, no?
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

This has been the general consensus by most sovereign nations. Yes?

Ok, so the answer is that is your opinion since you don't really know what the consensus is in other nations
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

So then, Vern, you believe the data I posted
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no Con, I've simply ignored your dishonest deflections because you don't want to discuss the causes. Speaking of the present, 7 republican investigations have proven everything you post about Benghazi is a lie. lets discuss that. Oh yea, you're deflecting.
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

What movie? :doh

I didn't call Bush a liar. I was just laughing at your comparison to the US consular attack in Libya and the 4K soldiers killed under Bush's administration. Also, you seem quite keen on judging a person by their location. I could be an American in London. Americans live all over the globe, no?

Guess it when a liberal lies is the size of the issue but when a Conservative is accused of lying when the truth is faulty intelligence then it becomes a bigger issue claiming that Bush lied whether or not it was you. Since when did the size of a foreign policy issue become the main issue. a lie is a lie and there is no evidence that Bush lied but plenty of evidence that the Obama administration lied.

Still waiting for what action the left wants against Bush because all I see is whining and name calling
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

no Con, I've simply ignored your dishonest deflections because you don't want to discuss the causes. Speaking of the present, 7 republican investigations have proven everything you post about Benghazi is a lie. lets discuss that. Oh yea, you're deflecting.


No, you want to divert from the Obama disaster knowing there is nothing that can be done about what happened 13 years ago. I didn't know this thread was about Benghazi and unless I am mistaken I didn't raise the Benghazi issue. Interesting how the past is more important than the failures of the present. That is liberalism and why you have zero credibility
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Ok, so the answer is that is your opinion since you don't really know what the consensus is in other nations

What are you talking about?
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Guess it when a liberal lies is the size of the issue but when a Conservative is accused of lying when the truth is faulty intelligence then it becomes a bigger issue claiming that Bush lied whether or not it was you. Since when did the size of a foreign policy issue become the main issue. a lie is a lie and there is no evidence that Bush lied but plenty of evidence that the Obama administration lied.

Still waiting for what action the left wants against Bush because all I see is whining and name calling

:shock:
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

there is no evidence that Bush lied but plenty of evidence that the Obama administration lied.

Spoken like a true conservative. Care to see Obama's birth certificate as well?
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

What are you talking about?

You said it was consensus but you have shown no evidence of that thus it is your opinion
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Spoken like a true conservative. Care to see Obama's birth certificate as well?

Couldn't care less only care about the results. Care to name for me ANY economic result of Obama's that are better than Bush's?

Bush vs Obama

GDP growth 4.5 trillion vs 2.8 trillion

Debt 4.9 trillion vs 7.6 trillion

Employment 137 million to 146 million in 7 years vs Obama 142 million to 148 million in 7 years

Discouraged workers 425K average vs 950K average

Want me to go on?
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

No, you want to divert from the Obama disaster knowing there is nothing that can be done about what happened 13 years ago. I didn't know this thread was about Benghazi and unless I am mistaken I didn't raise the Benghazi issue. Interesting how the past is more important than the failures of the present. That is liberalism and why you have zero credibility

er uh dishonest con, I'm resonding to your post.
Right, just like it was motivated by a movie? Apparently it is ok for a Democrat Administration to lie to you but an intelligence failure is reason to call Bush a liar? Interesting logic from another leftist who ought to be worrying more about what is going on in England than here is this country

Bush lied about the intelligence he was given. President Obama did not. try to focus. try to be honest.
 
Re: "Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created."

Couldn't care less only care about the results. Care to name for me ANY economic result of Obama's that are better than Bush's?

Bush vs Obama

GDP growth 4.5 trillion vs 2.8 trillion

Debt 4.9 trillion vs 7.6 trillion

Employment 137 million to 146 million in 7 years vs Obama 142 million to 148 million in 7 years

Discouraged workers 425K average vs 950K average

Want me to go on?

Ending the embargo with Cuba. Duh?
 
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