I don't think I'd want to own a Canadian. They seem kind of whiney sometimes. :mrgreen:
I wonder what Dr. Schlesinger thinks of the 12th annual Gay Pride Parade in Tel Aviv?In her recent US radio show, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.
I would very much like to see her response to this.
P.S. -- Would eating shellfish and practicing homosexuality at the same time add to each other in terms of degrees of abominations? Or would they multiply?
Just wondering.
Although I have faith in God and I am a hetrosexual I support Gay rights.
I believe that organized religious people would make good politicians for they both are realy good at cherrypicking.lol.
However the good Dr. Laura like many in organized religion overlooed a small detail ,one that is often overlooked.
The Bible was written by man, and man makes mistakes.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.
I believe what the bible says is more/less true, but it WAS written by man - inspired by God, written by man.
To say there would be zero errors is insane. The bible says God's "word will accomplish what God intended", not "every single vowel is direct from God".
The bible says God's "word will accomplish what God intended", not "every single vowel is direct from God".
YHWH is indeed a startling character. Have you read GOD: a bigoraphy (Jack Miles)? Mind blowing. the sequel dealing with Jesus is not quite as boggling, but still really, really good.I would hate to think how I would conceive of God based purely on the OT. Wowzer.
Isaiah is a book of the Tanakh, NOT Torah. Outside of the Torah, jews, including jesus, were and are permitted doubt. NOT as to the LAW however.
and your opinion you are entitled to. jesus spoke of the TORAH, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy and Numbers. He mentions the collection by name.
yes, peter is talking not of the LAW but of the prophecy of Jesus' mission. I should not have employed that specific reference. It was unnecessary.
YHWH is indeed a startling character. Have you read GOD: a bigoraphy (Jack Miles)? Mind blowing. the sequel dealing with Jesus is not quite as boggling, but still really, really good.
geo.
if that is your understanding, you must have gotten it second hand from some doubtless ignorant fundamentalist... you did not read the book and you are NOT familiar with its content. It presents a real and understandable entity.I'm ... passingly familiar with God a Biography but only as a book dedicated to making the God of the OT look foolish
...when you analyze what the intent of the words were, rather than the mere inclusion of the word jealousy, it makes sense. God was hurt... and "jealous" like a husband whose wife cheats on him.
Although I have faith in God and I am a hetrosexual I support Gay rights.
I believe that organized religious people would make good politicians for they both are realy good at cherrypicking.lol.
However the good Dr. Laura like many in organized religion overlooed a small detail ,one that is often overlooked.
The Bible was written by man, and man makes mistakes.
it does?
care to cite chapter and verse?
christians have long rejected the premise ("You are cut off from Christ, you who would be justified by the Torah" - Galations 5:4) but while not true of the entirety of the Tanakh, according to the people that produced it and to the text itself, the Torah is the word of God and is wholly without error; "Moses merely wrote it down like a secretary taking dictation… every verse in the Torah is equally holy, as they all originate from God, and are all part of God's Torah, which is perfect, holy and true." - Maimonides - Thirteen Principles Of Faith
THAT christians have rejected it only speaks to to 'christianity' as an evolving socio-political force, not to the texts upon which christians (pretend to) base their faith;
"Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Jesus of Nazareth, according the the Gospel of (matthew 5:17)
The man that Jesus described as his spiritual heir, agrees:
"no prophecy of Scripture … was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (2 Pet 1:20–21)
put simply, according the sacred texts of Judaism AND christianity, if you disagree with the pentateuch, you disagree with YHWH.
geo.
IMO, i would think it is probably a good bet that Dr. Laura doesn't believe that the Bible was written/inspired by God but written by God. If this is true, one can see the difference in perspective pertaining to error in the text. She is still cherry-picking to be sure.
You as well as I know that any book that was written 2000 yrs ago and has been rewritten ever since will have some wrong phrases.
there is no possible way for you to know if the Bible was rewritten.
Probably, as Matthew was more clearly than any of the other Gospel writers, writing specifically to Jews, his original was in Aramaic, but... no matter.if we look at the language of King James fear meant respect which is on par with what we think it means today and what the original Greek meant.
ah, now, that is certainly untrue. we can tell when certain parts of the bible were written through lexical analysis, what language was used to write it, particular usages.
we can also compare the vernacular versions with the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin versions. we can compare christian and jewish versions. for instance, the christian "Old Testament" differs from the Tanakh in several significant ways - the prophesies appear as the last books of the OT, though much earlier in the Tanakh. where the Tanakh ends with God's silence (in one of the last, he not only does not speak directly OR through another, he is not spoken OF... he does not appear at all) the OT ends with a bunch of fellas telling us the messiah is near.... turn the page and TA DA! there he is.
too, the tanakh was "written", that is, committed to writing, only during the Phillistine/Persian captivity and compiled only after Cyrus sent them home. Prior to that, the storied had been handed down and handed down orally. Much of it was, to put it simply, fabricated for the purpose of CREATING a national identity that had never really developed to any appreciable extent.
Probably, as Matthew was more clearly than any of the other Gospel writers, writing specifically to Jews, his original was in Aramaic, but... no matter.
there are various interpretations of the use of the term 'fear'. the KJV translated several lexically related terms as 'fear', the most common of them being "yira(h/t)" which may be read as anything from 'awe' to 'fear'.
in some cases it is certainly the former. in Matthew, however, context make clear that he means 'fear' precisely as WE use it:
"And do not fear those who kill the body, but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28)
the same word is used in both places. obviously, fear as is "OH MY GOD HE IS ROBBING ME" is not meant as 'resepct'. As much as many contemporary folks dislike the idea being fearful of a loving god, remember, he was once BOTH terrible and loving. When admonished to fear god, it is because he IS all powerful - he tells you that he will destroy you if you do not behave.
so, yes... be afraid... be very afraid.
24"(AL)A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master.
25"It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. (AM)If they have called the head of the house (AN)Beelzebul, how much more will they malign the members of his household!
26"Therefore do not (AO)fear them, (AP)for there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known.
27"(AQ)What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim (AR)upon the housetops.
28"Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather (AS)fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in (AT)hell.
29"(AU)Are not two sparrows sold for a [a]cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father.
30"But (AV)the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31"So do not fear; (AW)you are more valuable than many sparrows.
32"Therefore (AX)everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven.
33"But (AY)whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
34"(AZ)Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35"For I came to (BA)SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;
36and (BB)A MAN'S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
37"(BC)He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
38"And (BD)he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
39"(BE)He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.
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