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Chagos Islands: Mauritian flag raised on British-controlled islands

Chagos Islanders wouldn't know what a flag was unless the British had taught them. They should show more respect.
 
lemmiwinx said:
Chagos Islanders wouldn't know what a flag was unless the British had taught them. They should show more respect.
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Chagos Islanders have been nothing other than thoroughly screwed over by the British Empire, full stop.
 
And you risibly label yourself a Libertarian. What suddenly happened to freedom of self-determination, eh?
 
Sven Karma said:
Chagos Islanders have been nothing other than thoroughly screwed over by the British Empire, full stop.
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Who hasn't been screwed over by the British Empire? You're talking to a resident of one of their 13 original Anglo-American colonies here.
 
lemmiwinx said:
Who hasn't been screwed over by the British Empire? You're talking to a resident of one of their 13 original Anglo-American colonies here.
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Well, exactly. You were the one opining that the Chagos Islanders should show the British more respect, but hey, see also e.g. @Big Eye, labelling yourself 'Libertarian-Right' round here is a sure sign of intellectual incoherence.
 
Sven Karma said:
Well, exactly. You were the one opining that the Chagos Islanders should show the British more respect, but hey, see also e.g. @Big Eye, labelling yourself 'Libertarian-Right' round here is a sure sign of intellectual incoherence.
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I'm sure Chagos Islanders would never have heard of the Beatles or even Elton John if not for British presence on their god forsaken little island. But that's neither here nor there a far as historians shall record.
 
Roadvirus said:
So...like every place that's been under the Union Jack then.
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Empires empire, innit.

Having said that, irrespective of other demerits of France and the French Empire or Spain and the Spanish Empire is that their extraterritorial bits e.g. Saint Pierre & Miquelon or e.g Ceuta have (and probably always have had) a far more transparent and representative and administratively transparent relationship to the 'homeland'.

See also the disparity in status between Hawaii and Puerto Rico ;)
 
lemmiwinx said:
I'm sure Chagos Islanders would never have heard of the Beatles or even Elton John if not for British presence on their god forsaken little island. But that's neither here nor there a far as historians shall record.
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Historians know all about god forsaken places and strategic locations. I'm Beatles-indifferent and dislike Elton John's oeuvre so not convinced by that either.
 
"Un bateau envoyé par le gouvernement mauricien est arrivé dans l'archipel contesté des Chagos, dans l'océan Indien, après que le pays a accusé les autorités britanniques d'occupation de 'crimes contre l'humanité'.
La plus haute juridiction des Nations unies a jugé que l'occupation britannique des îles était illégale, mais la Grande-Bretagne a refusé de céder le contrôle à l'île Maurice."

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La plupart des habitants des îles Chagos ont été jetés, sans cérémonie et sans compensation, à l'île Maurice, à 1 000 miles au sud."​


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Îles Chagos: les habitants rentrent chez eux avec beaucoup d'émotion et d'histoire - BBC News Afrique

Andrew Harding monte à bord d'un bateau de Chagossiens qui retournent sur l'île que le Royaume-Uni refuse de rendre à l'île Maurice.
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"A boat sent by the government of Mauritius arrived at the archipelago of Chagos in the Indian ocean after the country accused the British authorities of "crimes against humanity". The highest jurisdiction of the United Nations judged the British occupation to be illegal and refused to cede control of the Chagos Islands to Great Britain.

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Most inhabitants of the Chagos islands were thrown out without ceremony or compensation to Mauritius 1,000 miles to the south."

The article says how changed the people who returned found the island, how their church had been overgrown, but how moved they were to return to the land of their birth and how many people cried.
 
PeteEU said:
They will be driven off... People forget the whole area is one of the most secretive American bases in the world.

Even if the British suddenly got a heart, they can't tell the US to **** off. Diego Garcia is the Sevastapol of the US military.
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I hope you are wrong.
 
lemmiwinx said:
Who hasn't been screwed over by the British Empire? You're talking to a resident of one of their 13 original Anglo-American colonies here.
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How did Britain screw over the colonies?
 
Higgins86 said:
How did Britain screw over the colonies?
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The leftist opinions is that prior to European contact, all other cultures lived in tranquility and bliss with absolutely no suffering, war or pestilence until evil white men brought these things into the world.

Now, every bit of suffering and strife suffered by any non white indigenous peoples is all because of colonialism and evil white people who must be purged from earth so it can once again be the utopia it was prior to their arrival

With the sole exception of white liberals, who will, in a non binary, gender neutral and non toxic masculine way, ascend to throne of this utopian society to lead the colored people into the promised land.
 
Higgins86 said:
How did Britain screw over the colonies?
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Tea taxes. Britain controlled worldwide tea production and King George III imposed cruel taxes on the colonies. Kind of like when Biden shut down domestic oil production on his first day in office. It hurt the economy in both cases bigly.
 
lemmiwinx said:
Tea taxes. Britain controlled worldwide tea production and King George III imposed cruel taxes on the colonies. Kind of like when Biden shut down domestic oil production on his first day in office. It hurt the economy in both cases bigly.
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Taxes were to pay for the French Indian war which British soldiers fought to defend the colonies.
 
Higgins86 said:
Taxes were to pay for the French Indian war which British soldiers fought to defend the colonies.
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The French and Indians weren't hurting anybody. Why did England start a war with them in the first place?
 
lemmiwinx said:
The French and Indians weren't hurting anybody. Why did England start a war with them in the first place?
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It was actually the British versus the French. After the Spanish and Portuguese waned as colonial powers in the New World, the British and French ascended. Colonies that had once been Spanish and Portuguese became British and French. British and French rivalry continued here in North America where what was one day to become the United States and Canada were to be divided between them.
 
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