CDC just messed up, big time.

[Tahuyaman]

LOL.

Do you think that you are immune from the Spanish Flu because your great grandparents were?

It’s extinct.

The Spanish flu virus is still out there. Our immune system has overcome it. The Hong Kong flu virus is still out there. Our immune system has overcome it.

Jeebus.

 

[Tahuyaman]

The cold and flu were virtually non existent this past season because of the protocols we put in place to combat Covid.

Fact.

Do not change the intent of my post to troll and bait. That is not cleaver nor profound. It is stupid.

As to what a vaccine does, in micro it protects us from a disease. In macro it CAN effectively eliminate a disease.

Don't post so obtuse, it makes one look dumb to so do.

Peace

An inoculation is not going to make a corona virus disappear. It’s going to help our immune system develop protections from the virus. Some people will still get it in the future. Just as in some parts of the world, people still get small pox.

 

[minnie616]

The Spanish flu virus is still out there. Our immune system has overcome it. The Hong Kong flu virus is still out there. Our immune system has overcome it.

Jeebus.

What misconceptions !

Our immune systems did not overcome the Spanish Flu.
Actually, we are still fighting the Spanish flu today.

Descendants of the 1918 H1N1 virus make up the influenza viruses we're fighting today. sequenced the genetic makeup of the 1918 influenza virus was sequenced in the 1990s.

Hong Kong flu was caused by an H3N2 strain of the influenza A which descended from H2N2 and formed a new virus.

 

[minnie616]

An inoculation is not going to make a corona virus disappear. It’s going to help our immune system develop protections from the virus. Some people will still get it in the future. Just as in some parts of the world, people still get small pox.

Actually, In 1980, the World Health Assembly declared smallpox eradicated (eliminated), and no cases of naturally occurring smallpox have happened since.

I think you are thinking of polio .
Afghanistan and Pakistan are the only two countries where the polio is still classified as endemic.

 

[gbg3]

Okay, so here is the video from Senate.gov (broadcast by PBS and others) - the tweet that is now missing in comment #437. The point where Senator Burr's question starts is at 2:39:48. The answers (and rather interesting long pause) go for a couple minutes. IMO, that panel was quite uncomfortable answering Burr's question (or mostly not answering might better explain what they did).

An Update from Federal Officials on Efforts to Combat COVID-19 | The U.S. Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions

Full Committee Hearing on May 11, 2021 at 6:00 AM

www.help.senate.gov

 

[Tahuyaman]

Actually, In 1980, the World Health Assembly declared smallpox eradicated (eliminated), and no cases of naturally occurring smallpox have happened since.

I think you are thinking of polio .
There are still a few cases of polio in some parts of the world.

In some parts of the underdeveloped world people still get small pox. Polio as well.

There are several diseases which have been basically eradicated in the developed countries, but not in others.

 

[noonereal]

An inoculation is not going to make a corona virus disappear. It’s going to help our immune system develop protections from the virus. Some people will still get it in the future. Just as in some parts of the world, people still get small pox.

OMG, herd immunity can effectively eradicate a infectious disease because it has no place to migrate to if everyone is vaccinated.

come on people, lets not be so narrow minded.

 

[Tahuyaman]

What misconceptions !

Our immune systems did not overcome the Spanish Flu.
Actually, we are still fighting the Spanish flu today.

Descendants of the 1918 H1N1 virus make up the influenza viruses we're fighting today. sequenced the genetic makeup of the 1918 influenza virus was sequenced in the 1990s.

Hong Kong flu was caused by an H3N2 strain of the influenza A which descended from H2N2 and formed a new virus.

Our immune system has largely overcome the Spanish flu, but thanks for acknowledging that the virus is still out there.

 

[Tahuyaman]

OMG, herd immunity can effectively eradicate a infectious disease because it has no place to migrate to if everyone is vaccinated.

come on people, lets not be so narrow minded.

Everyone doesn’t need to be vaccinated for a coronavirus.

 

[minnie616]

In some parts of the underdeveloped world people still get small pox. Polio as well.

There are several diseases which have been basically eradicated in the developed countries, but not in others.

Post a link where people have had small pox .

I study diseases and truly would to know where it was found.

This is the latest I can find.

The last known natural case was in Somalia in 1977.
Since then, the only known cases were caused by a laboratory accident in 1978 in Birmingham, England,
which killed one person and caused a limited outbreak.

 

[minnie616]

Everyone doesn’t need to be vaccinated for a coronavirus.

The more who are vaccinated the faster we can reach herd immunity.

 

[noonereal]

Everyone doesn’t need to be vaccinated for a coronavirus.

You are bit too literal.

We do need hit 85% or so it is estimated.

 

[Threegoofs]

Post a link where people have had small pox .

I study diseases and truly would to know where it was found.

This is the latest I can find.

The last known natural case was in Somalia in 1977.
Since then, the only known cases were caused by a laboratory accident in 1978 in Birmingham, England,
which killed one person and caused a limited outbreak.

You’ll learn that he’s... not very well educated.

 

[gbg3]

Back to masks for a minute - just in case anyone is in the mood for a little humor tonight.

CDC Says You No Longer Have To Wear A Life Jacket Outside In Case Of Rain

ATLANTA, GA—The CDC has updated its guidelines and announced that you no longer have to wear a life jacket outside in case of rain. The guidelines had been put in place last year during a particularly rainy March, and although many experts had claimed we would just have to wear the life jackets...

babylonbee.com

 

[joko104]

I love the idea! The covidiots can infect themselves to their hearts content. If I am carrying the virus without symptoms I would gladly do so as well!

Maybe the attitude of do what I say or I hope you die is one of the reasons the #1 human case of death - by far - in the USA is by those in the medical profession.

 

[minnie616]

You are bit too literal.

We do need hit 85% or so it is estimated.

I agree , each disease has a different herd immunity.. Herd immunity for Small pox was between 80 and 86 percent. We eradicated Small pox.

We have good chance of meeting herd immunity for Covid at 85 percent if we can convince more people to become vaccinated.


Do you want to know why we never reached herd immunity for measles ?
Because it is estimated that 93 -95 percent of a population needs to be vaccinated against measles to reach herd immunity for measles.
Too many people did not get the measles vaccine.

Herd immunity only applies to communicable diseases and requires a large proportion of the population to be vaccinated. The threshold, or minimum percentage of immune individuals needed to establish herd immunity, is dependent upon how infectious the disease is. For example, it is estimated that 93% to 95% of a population needs to be vaccinated to establish herd immunity against measles, whereas the threshold for polio is 80% to 86%. This concept of herd immunity is especially beneficial for the most vulnerable members of our communities, including infants, pregnant women, and those who are not able to receive certain vaccinations due to contraindications. Even if a person gets sick, there is less chance of an outbreak because it is more difficult for the disease to spread. Eventually, the disease becomes rare and may be eradicated altogether.

Measles and the MMR Vaccine

www.uspharmacist.com

 

[minnie616]

Maybe the attitude of do what I say or I hope you die is one of the reasons the #1 human case of death - by far - in the USA is by those in the medical profession.

False. You are mistaken or are intentionally misleading people.

Medical mistakes are far ,far , too high in the United States....but they are not the #1 cause of death .

Medical errors are the forth leading cause of death after Covid, heart disease and cancer.

Replacing Medical Errors, COVID-19 Becomes the 3rd-Leading Cause of Death in the U.S.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

 

[joko104]

False. You are mistaken or are intentionally misleading people.

Medical mistakes are far ,far , too high in the United States....but they are not the #1 cause of death .

Medical errors are the forth leading cause of death after Covid, heart disease and cancer.

Replacing Medical Errors, COVID-19 Becomes the 3rd-Leading Cause of Death in the U.S.

A typo on my part. The "#1 human cause" - not "case."

 

[Metric Mouse]

This supports my post, not yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is what I quoted you from!

I have been taking your posts very seriously and have replied accordingly, I felt you may be aware of something I was not and as a truly intellectually curious person I wanted that possible knowledge.

Now I feel you are just giving me the run around.

Yes... it shows that out of every 1000 people given the vaccine, approximately 3 of them developed covid... did... did you not actually run the numbers? Or... wait... you don't think that "94%" efficacy means that 6 people out of 100 would get the disease... you don't actually think that's how statistics work, do you?

 

[gbg3]

That is very interesting. Could you please provide your source?

Since you find this very interesting, I wanted to let you know I ran into a new thread someone started on the topic.

 

[gbg3]

I love the idea! The covidiots can infect themselves to their hearts content. If I am carrying the virus without symptoms I would gladly do so as well!

Dang, that is very weird if you are someone who works in the medical profession!

 

[holbritter]

They will get back to normal without the vaccine. They don't need no stinking vaccine. No way I would put that in my body.

You do realize the deplorables believe that covid-19 was all a hoax. Mask spread disease. The vaccine is like geneticly modified corn and will alter my DNA in unknown ways in the future. And many other conspiracy theories.

Which doesn't address my point at all. Fine, if you don't have an answer just say so.

 

[BrotherFease]

The CDC just dropped the recommendation for masks for fully vaccinated people except in healthcare situations.

This is a disaster as this makes the ridiculous assumption that people are honest and will not claim to vaccinated just to not wear a mask.

Without vaccination requirements this is going to keep the spread of Covid robust.

Very disturbing.

I agree with you, but for additional reasons.

1. Most people do not understand separation of powers. The CDC and Dr. Fauci are not lawmakers. They simply put out recommendations. Each state, each business has different rules when it comes to mask-wearing. This ruling is going to confuse people and create conflict.

2. Even though you're fully vaccinated, this doesn't mean you cannot catch covid19 or pass it onto another person. The science is still up in the air on whether or not fully vaccinated people can infect others.

3. It creates an environment where people can cheat. They can claim they are fully vaccinated, but really not.

Grant it, I understand the optics here: The CDC wants to encourage more Americans, especially Republicans and rural Americans, to get a vaccination. If they tell them, "Get the shot, take off the mask", then that's away of creating incentives. But the reality here is that relaxing the mask rules, only puts Americans in danger of getting sick.

 

[rickc]

Deplorables never believed in mask.

If deplorables choose not to get vaccinated it could be a blessing in disguise

 

[Threegoofs]

Yes... it shows that out of every 1000 people given the vaccine, approximately 3 of them developed covid... did... did you not actually run the numbers? Or... wait... you don't think that "94%" efficacy means that 6 people out of 100 would get the disease... you don't actually think that's how statistics work, do you?

That’s....exactly how statistics work.