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CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year
May 23, 2016 11:20 PM
By David Goldstein
LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A comparison of records by David Goldstein, investigative reporter for CBS2/KCAL9, has revealed hundreds of so-called dead voters in Southern California, a vast majority of them in Los Angeles County.
“He took a lot of time choosing his candidates,” said Annette Givans of her father, John Cenkner.
Cenkner died in Palmdale in 2003. Despite this, records show that he somehow voted from the grave in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2010.
But he’s not the only one.
CBS2 compared millions of voting records from the California Secretary of State’s office with death records from the Social Security Administration and found hundreds of so-called dead voters.
Specifically, 265 in Southern California and a vast majority of them, 215, in Los Angeles County alone.
The numbers come from state records that show votes were cast in that person’s name after they died. In some cases, Goldstein discovered that they voted year after year.
Across all counties, Goldstein uncovered 32 dead voters who cast ballots in eight elections apiece, including a woman who died in 1988. Records show she somehow voted in 2014, 26 years after she passed away.
How can this be? I was told by many on the left that there is no voter fraud taking place in the US.
It seems this investigation by the local CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, has uncovered something of a political unicorn.
CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year « CBS Los Angeles
Well, I have to admit that getting a voter ID probably is pretty hard if you're dead.
How can this be? I was told by many on the left that there is no voter fraud taking place in the US.
It seems this investigation by the local CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, has uncovered something of a political unicorn.
That's why the Democrats fight those types of laws, it would mess up their scheme. :lol:
How can this be? I was told by many on the left that there is no voter fraud taking place in the US.
It seems this investigation by the local CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, has uncovered something of a political unicorn.
CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year « CBS Los Angeles
Shhhh..... Haven't you heard?? There is no voter fraud in America....
That's why the Democrats fight those types of laws, it would mess up their scheme. :lol:
As GC points out, we are talking about 256 votes spread across 8 elections - that's 32 per election.
No one is claiming that voter fraud doesn't happen. We are arguing that the effort to prevent voter fraud which, empirically, amounts to about 0.0000005% of the total votes cast is disproportionate considering that it has the ability to disenfranchise millions of voters.
How can this be? I was told by many on the left that there is no voter fraud taking place in the US.
It seems this investigation by the local CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, has uncovered something of a political unicorn.
CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year « CBS Los Angeles
That's just ONE form of voter fraud. Do you think that it's the only one??? Do you think that due to the combination of Cali's. motor voter law and no longer requiring proof of citizenship to get a driver's license, that there aren't a lot of non-citizens/illegal immigrants voting in our elections??? This article just points out the easiest form of voter fraud to identify, there are lot's more where that came from and in some districts, it could easily be enough to change the outcome of an election.
If Republicans are loosing because Democrats managed to find 32 fraudulent votes out of the millions cast each year...well...yea...then the Republicans are doing a really terrible job of getting their own votes.
You are extrapolating an outcome changing event on EXTREMELY LITTLE evidence and EXTREMELY LARGE amounts of conjecture.
Is it possible? Sure.
But considering that the possibility of a single vote changing the outcome of an election, even a low turnout election, is incredibly low - that is unlikely.
Hahaha, you think it ends there?
Ima bet that it all washes out after Republican fake voters are counted.
there is 'extremely little evidence' because the only people investigating this type of thing are guys like this investigative journalist and we don't have a voter id to help prevent it. I would bet money that if we had more comprehensive investigations we would find tens of thousands of dead voters alone every election. I would also bet that we would find thousands of people who voted multiple times.
Good luck knowing if there are any and who they are. :lol:
How can this be? I was told by many on the left that there is no voter fraud taking place in the US.
It seems this investigation by the local CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, has uncovered something of a political unicorn.
CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year « CBS Los Angeles
That's just ONE form of voter fraud. Do you think that it's the only one??? Do you think that due to the combination of Cali's. motor voter law and no longer requiring proof of citizenship to get a driver's license, that there aren't a lot of non-citizens/illegal immigrants voting in our elections??? This article just points out the easiest form of voter fraud to identify, there are lot's more where that came from and in some districts, it could easily be enough to change the outcome of an election.
You have something against the dead?How can this be? I was told by many on the left that there is no voter fraud taking place in the US.
It seems this investigation by the local CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, has uncovered something of a political unicorn.
CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year « CBS Los Angeles
From the article :
"But the Los Angeles County Registrar confirms they have signed vote-by-mail envelopes with her mother’s name for the 2014 and 2012 election, though she died 10 years ago."
Voter ID laws only address IN-PERSON voter fraud. This is VOTE-BY-MAIL voter fraud.
I'd guess that some of these cases are simply that there's more than one person with the same name in the same area *gasp* the horror !!
So no, please don't beat this dead horse that democrats deny any voter fraud and somehow this disproves it. Democrats generally don't want to disenfranchise eligible voters for non-existent problems like IN-PERSON voter fraud.
You have something against the dead?
That was in that particular case. Nowhere in the article or in the video report, did they say that the other votes were cast by mail-in ballots.
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