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Castro says Cuba to cut spending, communism secure

Orius said:
I live in China.
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Actually, this is pretty good. You're in China, what many people rightfully see as an authoritarian regime. But wait a second, you're posting on the internet. Using the internet, let's see, well, that would be illegal in Cuba!
 
phattonez said:
Actually, this is pretty good. You're in China, what many people rightfully see as an authoritarian regime. But wait a second, you're posting on the internet. Using the internet, let's see, well, that would be illegal in Cuba!
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I really have no desire to cater to your moral relativism. I've seen some pretty horrific things in China, and heard about even more. Oppression can have many faces but is always the same evil.

I'm not saying that Cuba is a perfect utopia where nothing goes wrong, but the continual pot shots at its communist status over decades-old Cold War rivalry is of little interest to me. I deal with realpolitik, and even though Cuba is far from perfect, there are worse places in the world to grow up.
 
So the labor camps for kids who turn about 15 and getting drafted at age 18 aren't that bad?

You're really going to have a hard to convincing me that Cuba isn't that bad since my dad's family had to immigrate over here with nothing.
 
Harry said:
Pre Castro Cuba was corrupt but my great grandfather immigrated to and from there with out a problem.

Something you can't exactly do now.
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You can if you are not an American. And even if you are American you can still do it legally; you just have to know how.

EDIT: Actually, immigrating to Cuba (as in living there) I am not sure about; I know some people that have lived there for a while but I don't know exactly how they went about doing it or how difficult it is.

Phattonez said:
Actually, this is pretty good. You're in China, what many people rightfully see as an authoritarian regime. But wait a second, you're posting on the internet. Using the internet, let's see, well, that would be illegal in Cuba!
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Cubans have internet access.

So the labor camps for kids who turn about 15 and getting drafted at age 18 aren't that bad?
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Source please.:2wave:

You're really going to have a hard to convincing me that Cuba isn't that bad since my dad's family had to immigrate over here with nothing.
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Well that explains your rampant dishonesty/ignorance and conspiracy-mongering.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
Cubans have internet access.



Source please.:2wave:



Well that explains your rampant dishonesty/ignorance and conspiracy-mongering.
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This is primary evidence that I'm using as I have relatives there.
 
This is primary evidence that I'm using as I have relatives there.
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And I have known people that have lived there, and I have talked to them over the internet. So again, sources please.
 
I just told you my sources. The people that you must have known over there were either tourists or were inside of the government.
 
Oh, and your sources aren't? Yeah, makes perfect sense.
 
celticlord said:
The core reason socialism fails....eventually you run out of other people's money.
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Do you believe that Cuba's economy is based on "a social system in which the means of producing and distributing goods are owned collectively and political power is exercised by the whole community"? I'd say not, which is the basis for declaring Cuba a non-socialist country. :shrug:
 
Orius said:
The U.S. could end the embargo and conditions would improve tomorrow.

It already trades with China. Another Communist nation won't hurt.

But oh... I forgot, we have a grudge against Cuba for flouting us in the past.
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So communism works, so long as every other nation agrees to trade freely with the communist nation?
 
RightinNYC said:
So communism works, so long as every other nation agrees to trade freely with the communist nation?
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The state capitalist economy has various merits and demerits, just as the market capitalist economy has various merits and demerits. A merit of the state capitalist economy that the market capitalist economy cannot hope to match is its preservation of relatively full employment levels, for example, though underemployment typically remains a problem. Many of the identified "failures" of self-described socialist countries are those that would exist no matter what method of resource allocation was implemented, since they're related to absolute resource scarcities or deficiencies themselves.
 
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