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Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

Should the driver be charged?

  • I tend to lean conservative and no the driver should not be charged

    Votes: 7 17.1%

  • I tend to lean conservative and yes the driver should be charged

    Votes: 5 12.2%

  • I tend to lean liberal and no the driver should not be charged

    Votes: 3 7.3%

  • I tend to lean liberal and yes the driver should be charged

    Votes: 26 63.4%
  • Total voters
    41
X Factor said:
Protestors surrounding your car in a highly charged atmosphere can be downright threatening.
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Which is why he is a maniac for choosing to plough through the protestors and place himself in that situation. He chose to do that rather than take the opportunity (which was available as evidenced in the video), to simply cross lanes and allow the person in authority to direct his vehicle around the protestors.

The protestors were blocking the intersection. There were quite a few other vehicles inconvenienced and halted by their actions - they were not being surrounded and threatened.

The guy in the vehicle is a lunatic. No ifs, buts or maybes.
 
Likewise if you are driving in Dallas Texas and some protesters jump in front of you car you need to stop even though you think you have the right of way, the judge or jury may not see it you way and charge you with manslaughter.
 
And this is all beside the fact the protesters are on the wrong side of the issue.
 

It's interesting you see the driver as the only one who should be expected to avoid a situation like that as if the protestors made no questionable choices themselves.
 
pbrauer said:
Likewise if you are driving in Dallas Texas and some protesters jump in front of you car you need to stop even though you think you have the right of way, the judge or jury may not see it you way and charge you with manslaughter.
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If anyone, including but not limited to, gang members, car jackers, rioters, looters and/or protestors impede my vehicle when I'm somewhere I'm legally operating my vehicle, surround it and try to keep me where I don't want to be, I'll do what's necessary to protect myself and whoever's with me and yes, I'd expect to face judgment and you can bet I would insist that it be done by a jury.
 
From the first video I saw earlier this week I was not sure whether or not the driver did anything wrong, but based on this video (driving/ramming himself through a crowd of people) I would say arrest this man and try him for attempted murder/grievous bodily harm to numerous people. What kind of a moron just rams his way through a crowd. That is just totally insane.

The police also has their fair share of the blame, they should have blocked the road and diverted the traffic from that intersection IMHO.
 

Don't forget the people who were in the road.
 
From what I see the crowd doesn't form around the car; the car tried to force it's way through the crowd. The driver should be charged. Also using the video, if the people obstructing traffic can be identified, they can be charged or ticketed, whichever is appropriate for the laws where it happened.
 
Jerry said:
Don't forget the people who were in the road.
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I did not forget them, but they are people demonstrating and are no match for a big hunk of metal with an engine to propel it.
 

but driving through and over pedestrians who are jaywalking (if you want to put it like that because there is zero evidence that they are gang members, car jackers, rioters or looters) is not legally operating your vehicle IMHO. If you want to not be surrounded, then you would be wise not to try and ram your way through a crowd of people (like this driver did) instead of slowly reversing and driving around the group of people as others on that road where doing.

Being impeded by protesters does not give anyone a right to drive through them because that is not legally operating a vehicle.
 
Peter King said:
I did not forget them, but they are people demonstrating and are no match for a big hunk of metal with an engine to propel it.
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All the more reason for them to get off the road.

Peter King said:
Not as wrong as the driver was.
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As wrong, if not more. It's one thing to have a heat-of-the-moment oopsie with a car, especially a guy with anger issues like this driver....it's quite another to experience systemic failure of logic by 1 remaining on the wrong side of the issue in the first place, and 2 endangering yourself to announce to the world that you're on the wrong side of the issue. These people have had time to calm down and come back to reality yet they persist. They're sick. They need to be treated.
 

cant answer the poll since im independant but ill say the same thing i said in the other thread

 
The driver should obviously be charged, but even as someone who 100% supports the protesters, I understand his impulse to just drive through them. But yeah, he should definitely be charged. He could have killed or seriously injured someone. I think anyone who says he shouldn't be charged is being super blinded by their rage at the protesters, but just because you don't like people and would like to see them run over, doesn't mean that it's actually LEGAL to run them over, LOL.
 
whysoserious said:
I just noticed that almost every reply to X Factor begins with me pointing out that he misrepresented my stance.
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Which is why I stopped debating him over a year ago. My life is much better, LOL.
 

Sure, always blame others.

And no, the protesters were not more wrong. They maybe have caused annoyance, not the same thing as causing possibly deadly injuries.
 
whysoserious said:
Should the driver be charged?
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Not sure. Certainly looks like he/she ran into/over people, but at the same time I half wonder if the driver panicked - that...surge..into the crowd almost looked like someone went to hit the brakes and stomped the accelerator instead.
 

You must live one paranoid, sad life. No one is going to car jack you - take a deep breath buddy.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Which is why I stopped debating him over a year ago. My life is much better, LOL.
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It's unbelievable. No spine. He doesn't take a stance. He just misrepresents everyone else and attacks them with things they either didn't say or that are off topic.

I'd rather debate with apdst or NavyPride - at least they stand for something.
 

Certainly. What blows my mind though, is even if X Factor was right, and it's the scariest world ever where every urban person wants to rape and kill you, there was a ****ing lane wide open on the left that every other driver seemed to have no problem finding!
 

So what? Driving through a crowd carefully is not against the law.
 
Peter King said:
Sure, always blame others.

And no, the protesters were not more wrong. They maybe have caused annoyance, not the same thing as causing possibly deadly injuries.
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Sure they were... the protestors were blocking traffic. Not only were they more wrong they were stupid ****ing morons.

Who goes out in the street and then complains when somebody is hit by a car? Idiots.
 
whysoserious said:
You must live one paranoid, sad life. No one is going to car jack you - take a deep breath buddy.
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I absolutely have had a dude, fully tatted up including his head try to stop my car behind a Lowe's one night. It actually took me a couple attempts to drive around him before I was able. I'm sure you'll think it wrong of that I didn't stop for him or believe I committed attempted murder or some such offense, and yes, I admit to making some judgments based on his appearance and the fact that he seemed really aggressive, but I didn't.

That was just one dude. If you think occupants of a car cannot be threatened by a pedestrian you've lead a very sheltered life. I would be curious what crime you felt I committed in that situation. Attempted murder? Aggravated assault? Mayhem? Terrorism?
 

The police need tranquilizer darts to shoot all those idiots. Open season. Arrest them all...
 
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