The more we learn about the attack, the more we realize how much more this was than an angry crowd. It looks like an organized bunch used the sheer numbers and anger of the crowd to their advantage to breach the Capitol's defenses. With President Trump promising to follow them, did they anticipate pardons for their actions, or that they had some kind of implicit permission? I'm pretty sure the QAnon bunch probably had that in their heads. If Trump refused to concede and told them the election wasn't legit, what legal options were left to them?Under battle flags bearing Donald Trump’s name, the Capitol’s attackers pinned a bloodied police officer in a doorway, his twisted face and screams captured on video. They mortally wounded another officer with a blunt weapon and body-slammed a third over a railing into the crowd.
“Hang Mike Pence!” the insurrectionists chanted as they pressed inside, beating police with pipes. They demanded House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s whereabouts, too. They hunted any and all lawmakers: “Where are they?” Outside, makeshift gallows stood, complete with sturdy wooden steps and the noose. Guns and pipe bombs had been stashed in the vicinity.
Only days later is the extent of the danger from one of the darkest episodes in American democracy coming into focus. The sinister nature of the assault has become evident, betraying the crowd as a force determined to occupy the inner sanctums of Congress and run down leaders — Trump’s vice president and the Democratic House speaker among them.
The bolded is a key part that I think some either overlook or simply ignore. There were nutcases in this crowd who honestly believe things like "John McCain didn't die, he was tried and legally executed" (something I read a person on this board post). And somewhere close to 50% or more of Trump supporters believe in QAnon and/or see Q as a good thing (it's ridiculous).From the AP:
The more we learn about the attack, the more we realize how much more this was than an angry crowd. It looks like an organized bunch used the sheer numbers and anger of the crowd to their advantage to breach the Capitol's defenses. With President Trump promising to follow them, did they anticipate pardons for their actions, or that they had some kind of implicit permission? I'm pretty sure the QAnon bunch probably had that in their heads. If Trump refused to concede and told them the election wasn't legit, what legal options were left to them?
I do have smarter friends (although some of those who still want to claim Trump won are surprisingly fellow nukes), but generally I prefer to just snooze them.I have FB friends who post things that say that "Trump didn't concede, he is just setting them up so they can incriminate themselves" or that Pelosi's laptop wasn't really stolen, but rather confiscated by "white hats".
I have a sister like that, can't really do much about her being my sister, but you may want to look into finding smarter friends...lol
From the AP:
The more we learn about the attack, the more we realize how much more this was than an angry crowd. It looks like an organized bunch used the sheer numbers and anger of the crowd to their advantage to breach the Capitol's defenses. With President Trump promising to follow them, did they anticipate pardons for their actions, or that they had some kind of implicit permission? I'm pretty sure the QAnon bunch probably had that in their heads. If Trump refused to concede and told them the election wasn't legit, what legal options were left to them?
It's nice to see that these people have been located and held accountable in short order. It's probably not all of them, but maybe the rest will think twice about doing something again.Two capitol police officers suspended, one arrested.
It's nice to see that these people have been located and held accountable in short order. It's probably not all of them, but maybe the rest will think twice about doing something again.
I believe you are referring to a story that got updated: some of those 25 people are military, it wasn't clear how many.Oh, and I read yesterday that at least 25 members of the military are under investigation.
I believe you are referring to a story that got updated: some of those 25 people are military, it wasn't clear how many.
The gallows was "makeshift"?!
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What would it take for Trump supporters to get it? What would he have to do?
It looked reasonably square and plumb. Sturdy enough to stand on, but iffy (IMHO) on its ability to support someone dangling by their neck.The gallows was "makeshift"?!
For the thousands there at his rally, it didn't take very much at all...What would it take for Trump supporters to get it? What would he have to do?
It was at least ten feet tall. The top left connection looked bad. The "noose" looked thin and the knot didn't look like a knot.It looked reasonably square and plumb. Sturdy enough to stand on, but iffy (IMHO) on its ability to support someone dangling by their neck.
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It was at least ten feet tall. The top left connection looked bad. The "noose" looked thin and the knot didn't look like a knot.
It's said there was talk about using a tree.
They had hung the one that they made using some wires from the broken camera equipment (they broke) over a tree.It was at least ten feet tall. The top left connection looked bad. The "noose" looked thin and the knot didn't look like a knot.
It's said there was talk about using a tree.
Indicates that they didn't intend to stage the gallows scene. Not planned, not premeditated.What, they couldn't find a manufactured gallows?
Ebay, maybe? "Used once by careful owner". It was sickening to watch those ignorant thugs. Let the law do its work and jail the idiots.What, they couldn't find a manufactured gallows?
Because everyone just has parts for a gallows with them when they come to protest at the Capitol, not planning to actually use those large pieces of wood or that random rope, just have it with them.Indicates that they didn't intend to stage the gallows scene. Not planned, not premeditated.
"Now is the time for peace and cooperation" -- NO, it is not the time for either.Two capitol police officers suspended, one arrested.
They beat a cop to death with a fire extinguisher. Just theatrics? Seriously?The made-for-media theatrics on Capitol Hill were not an attempted "coup". Coups are what the CIA stages all over the world. Neither was "democracy" in peril. What democracy? And Trump is no more than a caricature of a system of which Biden, Obama, Bush etc are the embodiment. (с)
Seriously?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! About 90 cops were brutally killed in 2014 in Kiev during revolt, but US media called those murderous "protesters" fighters for democracy. Your hypocrisy is disgusting.They beat a cop to death with a fire extinguisher. Just theatrics? Seriously?
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