Capitalism is inefficient at resource allocation (1 Viewer)

[rahl]

If the patients weren't happy with the service, the industry would not be growing as fast as it is.

In Canada, the average wait time from initial visit to treatment is over 6 months.

No it isn’t

That doesn't sound "superior" to anything.

Because it’s something you pulled out of your ass.

We know empirically that single payer systems provide better care at a fraction of the cost of the US system.

 

[aociswundumho]

No it isn’t

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2024 Report

www.fraserinstitute.org

 

[rahl]

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Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2024 Report

www.fraserinstitute.org

For elective procedures, not emergencies

 

[aociswundumho]

For elective procedures, not emergencies

Ok, let's take a look about how single payer handles emergencies:

Hospital and urgent care access​

Canada's hospital beds per capita have decreased 63% since 1976,[185] to 44% fewer beds than the OECD average.[186][187] Overcrowding, or "hallway medicine," is common in hospitals,[188] and hospital patients are instructed to sleep on concrete floors,[189] in storage rooms,[190] as hospitals often operate at over 100% capacity,[191] and in some regions as high as 200%[192] capacity.[193] In 2023, more than 1.3 million Canadians "gave up" waiting for emergency care, and left without being seen.

What a great system.

From a different source:

How long are emergency department wait times?​

Recently, some emergency departments have reported average waits for hospital beds as high as 22 hours – nearly three times the recommended targets.

Hmm, 22 hours doesn't sound "superior" to me.

Just getting out of the ambulance can take up to 12 hours:

Regularly occurring offload delays of individual patients are reported by PCC members in excess of 12
hours with periods of 4-6 hours of a patient remaining on a paramedic stretcher being common.

Sorry, but to me this doesn't sound "superior" regarding emergency care.

 

[rahl]

Ok, let's take a look about how single payer handles emergencies:



What a great system.

From a different source:



Hmm, 22 hours doesn't sound "superior" to me.

Just getting out of the ambulance can take up to 12 hours:



Sorry, but to me this doesn't sound "superior" regarding emergency care.

And yet, we know empirically that single payer systems are superior to US system. They provide better care at a fraction of the cost.