Thrilla
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"mixed race" is a racial slur, now? :lamo
you are a conservative.. and you mentioned race.
that's all it takes to be considered a racist by liberals.
you are a conservative.. and you mentioned race.
that's all it takes to be considered a racist by liberals.
Not really. You can say pretty much anything about Obama these days, and it's considered racist. Like saying he plays a lot of golf, or the word "Chicago."
I take no joy in Romney's blackmail.
Dear bobcat, you are so far off on your "list" that it,s going take awhile to address all your points. First of all, gas prices have doubled since when? In August of 2008' national average gas prices were 3.78.
Next, let's remember what happened to the auto industry.....HIGHER gas prices in 2003 to 2008 caused a severe downturn in purchases of trucks, SUVs and larger cars, along with the credit crunch. Good thing Obama has taken steps to increase the CAFE standards.
Bailout.....hmmm....GM just repaid the last of its government loans. Please explain your word "failure".
Highest unemployment for the longest time in our history? Huh? I suppose your forgetting about the thirties?
Home values down 30? BINGO........I guess Obama didn't slow the bush freight train quickly enough. And now, there are signs home prices are starting to rebound.
I need a break.
GM paid off the loan? thats a total lie...like most of your post.. total nonsense sorry to say..
"mixed race" is a racial slur, now? :lamo
Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
Like you? At least he didn't debut with a racist 'half-breed' label for the President, as other new posters have done.
How is that racist?
It's true, he's mixed, not black.
Nice attempt to dodge, but your defense of the racial slur "Half Breed" has been archived for all to see.
Keep back peddling.
I'm sorry, care to back up those claims? Seems to GM, just this week. Paid off the last of its loans. I even think it was in the news!
I never said "half breed". You need to learn how to read.
How is that ("half breed") racist?
Um, I believe I said GM paid off its loans. They did. even the article YOU cite says that, silly.From the day Obama took over. Obama did not take over in August.
And what is the price of gas now?
Try this:
GM still owes $45.3 billion to the U.S. and $8.1 billion to Canada, money it received in exchange for large stakes in the company. The U.S. government now owns 61 percent of the company and Canada owns roughly 12 percent. GM plans to repay both with a public stock offering, perhaps later this year.
GM Pays Back Government Loans Early | Fox News
Now that's impressive, you had to go back 80 yrs to find a date that Obama has not shattered
It's been 4 yrs and home values are still down 30%, and what rebound?
You sure do
Right before they announces that they "paid off" the loan, they lost $3.4 billion.
Um, I believe I said GM paid off its loans. They did. even the article YOU cite says that, silly.
Gas prices on the day Obama took over are not relevant. What's relevant is national annual averages over periods.
Yes, prices are up now, but in 2010 the average annual was 2.90, compare to a 2008 average of 3.24. Average in 2011 was 3.56. Let's wait and see what the averages arebformterms, shall we? The statement that gas prices have doubled is misleading, at best.
Actually, homes lost most of their value in 2009, which can hardly be blamed on Obama. Foreclosures are down, and the home construction industry has added about 5k jobs in August, which is great news. July housing starts were up 21% from July of last year. So yes, you could reasonably say recovery, albeit slow, is occurring.
As for unemployment, I merely refuted the ridiculous claim that Obama was responsible for the highest unemployment ever. When people make outrageous, uninformed statements it's quite easy to shred them.
That is slight of hand, a loan that was converted to equity, that is now worth half is a huge loss for the tax payer. We have not been paid back. That is a fact.
No, you asked,
Now you are in full back peddle mode...
No, you asked,
Now you are in full back peddle mode...
You are either dumb or misinformed. GM is trading at $23.42, or 70% of the IPO price of $33. Analyst are forecasting GM will hit $45/share in the near future. Perhaps rather than spout off Republican talking points that appear to be 3 months old, you should be buying GM and make a nice profit, like the Govt is about to do.
GM paid its TARP loans off with other TARP money held in escrow....and yes, the bailouts are still forecasted to be a net taxpayer loss.
GM stock needs to be valued at 53 bucks for the taxpayers to break even.... right now, we are sitting on a 35 billion dollar net loss on the deal ( at todays valuation)..$45 is still to low to make a profit, $45 spells out a 25 billion dollar loss for taxpayers.
I remember when he initially announced he was going to run for president this year there was a story saying tha the IRS said he didn't release info on specific accounts he used, but I'm pretty damn sure that got debunked. The IRS (especially for the wealthy) isn't something that lets discrepancies pass without investigating them. If the paperwork was submitted by the Romney family to the IRS I have full faith that things were as correct as possible.
Side note: Yes I'm sure he tried to get out of paying as much tax as possible, but that's kinda how the game works. The rich don't generally want to give more money away just...because? You don't get rich by giving away your money freely, there's always intention and purpose.
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