Can you debate gun control using only logical arguments...

[Spock]

These guys are so funny. "Ah carried muh gun with me cause the piggly wiggly gets tense on a weekend!"

It is fundamentally all about entitlement and a resistance to limitations on doing whatever they want. It boils down to an infantile tantrum by adults who should know better.

 

[The Brad Dad]

It is fundamentally all about entitlement and a resistance to limitations on doing whatever they want. It boils down to an infantile tantrum by adults who should know better.

They never expect the worst of it to be visited on their families.

 

[RF667799]

I assume you are an average person. Everyone has lapses in judgment and perception. Ever been to a magic show?

It is a preventable part of life. Accidents are much rarerin Australia and Canada.

Discuss firearms.

After just introducing poisons and explosives into the discussion!

Ok. You anticipate being a hero and saving others.

 

[RF667799]

They never expect the worst of it to be visited on their families.

Uhhh...that seems a good reason to have a force multiplier. A ball bat...a knife...but **** that. I don't want to engage in bludgeon fights or knife fights. Think I'll just purpose one of my guns if it comes to that.

 

[Spock]

Uhhh...that seems a good reason to have a force multiplier. A ball bat...a knife...but **** that. I don't want to engage in bludgeon fights or knife fights. Think I'll just purpose one of my guns if it comes to that.

The "self-defense" firearm becomes used against innocents in the household by accident or intent.

 

[RF667799]

The "self-defense" firearm becomes used against innocents in the household by accident or intent.

Very seldom. And if you use something "against innocents", that's no accident.

 

[Spock]

Very seldom. And if you use something "against innocents", that's no accident.

Of course it is. By the very definition of "innocent", they should be protected from harm.

 

[RF667799]

Of course it is. By the very definition of "innocent", they should be protected from harm.

No, deliberately acting with the intent to harm is not an accident. Dig deeper.

 

[rahl]

Did you carry around a lethal device that could have been taken from you, used by a child or have been used to kill or injury a human at a distance?

Most people do on a daily basis. I assume you drove an automobile today?

 

[Spock]

No, deliberately acting with the intent to harm is not an accident. Dig deeper.

Not all harm comes from intentional acts. You haven't begun to understand the problems with firearms.

 

[rahl]

The "self-defense" firearm becomes used against innocents in the household by accident or intent.

Extremely rarely. 1.7 million defensive uses per year is much greater than a couple hundred incidents they you are describing.

 

[rahl]

Not all harm comes from intentional acts. You haven't begun to understand the problems with firearms.

There aren’t any problems with firearms that don’t also apply to tennis rackets, golf clubs, motor vehicles and a million other things. We have long ago established that.

 

[RF667799]

Not all harm comes from intentional acts. You haven't begun to understand the problems with firearms.

Absolutely nobody said that all harm comes from intentional acts. Your arguments leave the rails so often... Look. Get back with me later on after I have some adult herbage, the better to appreciate the surreal nature of discussing this with you.

 

[Spock]

Absolutely nobody said that all harm comes from intentional acts. Your arguments leave the rails so often... Look. Get back with me later on after I have some adult herbage, the better to appreciate the surreal nature of discussing this with you.

You have probably had too much adult herbage if you cannot understand the discussion.

 

[RF667799]

You have probably had too much adult herbage if you cannot understand the discussion.

What's your excuse for tilting at windmills that don't exist? Nobody said that all harm comes from intentional acts.