Can we all agree that the efforts Democrats make to reduce gun violence will benefit red states more than blue states?

[mrjurrs]

Lots of people die from gun violence in large urban population centers. But per capita gun deaths in red states far outstrip blue states.

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[td] The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) releases mortality data that includes breakdowns of gun-related deaths across the country. The recent figures outline trends that affect communities nationwide (and you can search our site for data near you). Here’s what CDC data reveals about where and how often these deaths happen. In August 2024, an estimated 3,800 people died from gun-related injuries. Gun deaths were 2% lower than they were the previous month. Between January and August 2024, an estimated 30,100 people died from gun-related injuries, down 5% from the same period in 2023. ​

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[td] 2023 gun death rates were highest in Washington, DC (30.6 per 100,000 people), followed by Mississippi (29.4) and Louisiana (28.3). The rate was lowest in Massachusetts (3.7). In 2023, Washington, DC, also had the highest rate of gun-related homicides at 28.5 per 100,000 people. The gun-related suicide rate was highest in Wyoming (19.0).  That same year, 95% of gun-related deaths were either suicides or homicides. (The rest include accidents and law enforcement interventions.) Suicides have comprised the largest percentage of gun-related deaths since at least 1979. About 55% of all gun-related deaths in 2023 were suicides. ​

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[Loulit01]

Democratic efforts to reduce gun violence are failing miserably. If you want to reduce gun violence, do what the four northeast states with stats under 5.0. No solid citizen is prevented from owning guns.

 

[lynnwinslow]

There is no such thing as gun deaths!

(That's my imitating the anticipated response from the gun forum gang.)

 

[VanceMack]

That chart (like leftist gun control efforts) has nothing to do with ending "gun violence".

 

[mrjurrs]

That chart (like leftist gun control efforts) has nothing to do with ending "gun violence".

And where did you see anything about ending gun violence?

Too fearful to answer the question?

 

[VanceMack]

And where did you see anything about ending gun violence?

Too fearful to answer the question?

Your OP doesnt match the topic. You posit on gun violence and present information about gun deaths. Your thread is stupid at best, and dishonest.

As for 'fear'...none of you leftists have the guts to tackle the problem. You probably should avoid that line of rhetoric altogether.

 

[CLAX1911]

Lots of people die from gun violence in large urban population centers. But per capita gun deaths in red states far outstrip blue states.

[td] ​ How many people die from gun-related injuries?​ ​

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[td] The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) releases mortality data that includes breakdowns of gun-related deaths across the country. The recent figures outline trends that affect communities nationwide (and you can search our site for data near you). Here’s what CDC data reveals about where and how often these deaths happen. ​ In August 2024, an estimated 3,800 people died from gun-related injuries. Gun deaths were 2% lower than they were the previous month. Between January and August 2024, an estimated 30,100 people died from gun-related injuries, down 5% from the same period in 2023. ​

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[td] ​ 2023 gun death rates were highest in Washington, DC (30.6 per 100,000 people), followed by Mississippi (29.4) and Louisiana (28.3). The rate was lowest in Massachusetts (3.7). In 2023, Washington, DC, also had the highest rate of gun-related homicides at 28.5 per 100,000 people. The gun-related suicide rate was highest in Wyoming (19.0).  That same year, 95% of gun-related deaths were either suicides or homicides. (The rest include accidents and law enforcement interventions.) Suicides have comprised the largest percentage of gun-related deaths since at least 1979. About 55% of all gun-related deaths in 2023 were suicides. ​

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No we can't. Democrats as a whole do everything in that power to make it worse.

I think this is because they want the only solution to be gun control so they'll make sure any measure doesn't work. Or they'll oppose any measure to reduce it if it doesn't also include gun control.

So no I think there are sinister and the vicious and the determination to disarm the public. I'm just making sure it's so many people get killed in the process to try and trick people into giving up their rights.

If you read history you'll know this it's something every dictatorial regime has done in history

 

[CLAX1911]

There is no such thing as gun deaths!

(That's my imitating the anticipated response from the gun forum gang.)

Do you resent that point because you can't against it?

 

[CLAX1911]

That chart (like leftist gun control efforts) has nothing to do with ending "gun violence".

Well yeah it's about ending your rights what they're trying to do is convince people that your rights are causing death that's what dictators do. If you don't submit to the control of the government you're all going to die.

 

[CLAX1911]

And where did you see anything about ending gun violence?

Ending right ones is about focusing on the people that do it.

Your dishonest attempt to hide your appeal to authoritarianism behind caring for people is extraordinarily transparent

Too fearful to answer the question?

I'm not the way it end violence is to focus on the family try and encourage fathers to be a part of their son's lives, this is how you would prevent it in the first place at least most of it.

 

[lynnwinslow]

Do you resent that point because you can't against it?

Resent it? I think it's funny.

 

[CLAX1911]

Resent it? I think it's funny.

But true.

 

[lynnwinslow]

But true.

Oh, has the Clax show started? Let me get my popcorn. You wait right here.

 

[MikePrime]

Lots of people die from gun violence in large urban population centers. But per capita gun deaths in red states far outstrip blue states.

"Data from 2018-2022 indicates that West Englewood, Chicago, experienced a rate of 268.5 fatal and non-fatal shooting victims per 10,000 people."
" In Brownsville, Brooklyn, the age-adjusted firearm death rate is 876.6 per 100,000 residents, according to NYC.gov "

No.

 

[RF667799]

Lots of people die from gun violence in large urban population centers. But per capita gun deaths in red states far outstrip blue states.

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[td] The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) releases mortality data that includes breakdowns of gun-related deaths across the country. The recent figures outline trends that affect communities nationwide (and you can search our site for data near you). Here’s what CDC data reveals about where and how often these deaths happen. ​ In August 2024, an estimated 3,800 people died from gun-related injuries. Gun deaths were 2% lower than they were the previous month. Between January and August 2024, an estimated 30,100 people died from gun-related injuries, down 5% from the same period in 2023. ​

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[td] ​ 2023 gun death rates were highest in Washington, DC (30.6 per 100,000 people), followed by Mississippi (29.4) and Louisiana (28.3). The rate was lowest in Massachusetts (3.7). In 2023, Washington, DC, also had the highest rate of gun-related homicides at 28.5 per 100,000 people. The gun-related suicide rate was highest in Wyoming (19.0).  That same year, 95% of gun-related deaths were either suicides or homicides. (The rest include accidents and law enforcement interventions.) Suicides have comprised the largest percentage of gun-related deaths since at least 1979. About 55% of all gun-related deaths in 2023 were suicides. ​

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Begging the question. Conflating suicide, murder, and accidents.

 

[mrjurrs]

Your OP doesnt match the topic. You posit on gun violence and present information about gun deaths. Your thread is stupid at best, and dishonest.

As for 'fear'...none of you leftists have the guts to tackle the problem. You probably should avoid that line of rhetoric altogether.

My OP is the topic.
Name the dishonesty.
Answer the question, unless you are afraid of the answer.

 

[mrjurrs]

No we can't. Democrats as a whole do everything in that power to make it worse.

I think this is because they want the only solution to be gun control so they'll make sure any measure doesn't work. Or they'll oppose any measure to reduce it if it doesn't also include gun control.

So no I think there are sinister and the vicious and the determination to disarm the public. I'm just making sure it's so many people get killed in the process to try and trick people into giving up their rights.

If you read history you'll know this it's something every dictatorial regime has done in history

Look at the red states deaths per capita and think what it means. But you have to think...

There is one political party that prevents common sense gun laws from being passed. There is one party that believes bump stocks and silencers (common recreational gun accessories?).

Where in this post is disarming discussed?

 

[mrjurrs]

Ending right ones is about focusing on the people that do it.

Your dishonest attempt to hide your appeal to authoritarianism behind caring for people is extraordinarily transparent

I'm not the way it end violence is to focus on the family try and encourage fathers to be a part of their son's lives, this is how you would prevent it in the first place at least most of it.

word salad based on nothing I've said in this thread

try harder

 

[VanceMack]

My OP is the topic.
Name the dishonesty.
Answer the question, unless you are afraid of the answer.

The title of the thread implies a connection to efforts to reduce gun violence. The information offered in the OP does not discuss gun violence. Your thread is dishonest.

As for addressing ACTUAL gun violence...that's not complicated. Mandatory minimum sentencing for criminals that use weapons in the commission of a crime. Then if you REALLY gave a shit, vote out the rat party you worship and start voting for people that will actually FIX the devastation in the blue cities where the violent crime occurs...in EVERY state.

Your premise is typical of you....its based on lies. And YOU should never accuse others of being afraid to actually address the problem. YOU are the problem. You and every other rat voter that keeps putting in the same elected officials in those rat run cities across the country...those rat run cities that have devastated minority communities and literally FEEDS the gun violence and death in this country.

 

[mrjurrs]

"Data from 2018-2022 indicates that West Englewood, Chicago, experienced a rate of 268.5 fatal and non-fatal shooting victims per 10,000 people."
" In Brownsville, Brooklyn, the age-adjusted firearm death rate is 876.6 per 100,000 residents, according to NYC.gov "

No.

Don't be ridiculous. You can get to 100% per capita if you look at gun violence victims.

Do you understand what age-adjusted death rates mean? Obviously not.

 

[mrjurrs]

Begging the question. Conflating suicide, murder, and accidents.

Are you suggesting that suicide, murder, and accidents do not happen with firearms?

 

[MikePrime]

Don't be ridiculous. You can get to 100% per capita if you look at gun violence victims.

Do you understand what age-adjusted death rates mean? Obviously not.

It is ridiculous that people of the left continue to make things like gun deaths a a political issue that they blame of "red states" and then get all pissy when they see that the places where gun violence is most an issue is in their cities, amongst their voter base, done in communities they supposedly care about.

 

[VanceMack]

Look at the red states deaths per capita and think what it means. But you have to think...

There is one political party that prevents common sense gun laws from being passed. There is one party that believes bump stocks and silencers (common recreational gun accessories?).

Where in this post is disarming discussed?

This is typical of the dishonest leftist anti-gun argument.

Lets look at a RED STATE...Mississippi. The state with the highest gun death rate in the country.

Where do those gun deaths occur? In the rat run cities in Mississippi. Typically...and across the country. YOUR puny rat gods...the rat politicians YOU keep in power...create devastation in the cities...which you ignore. Jackson Mississippi...the most violent city in Mississippi...Run by Democrats since 1899. And its the same in Cleveland...meridian...Pascagoula. Poverty in blue cities breeds violence. Young black males in those cities make up 5% of the total population...but account for 42% of ALL homicides in the state. Young black women in those cities are 4x more likely to be killed in those cities.

We don't fix the gun violence problem without fixing the devastation and destruction your rat politicians have created. Doesn't matter the 'color' of the state...red or blue.

To that point...Illinois is a BLUE state...but the vast majority of Illinois is safe. What causes Illinois to suffer statistically? Same as everywhere else. Rat infested rat run cities that YOU keep in power.

At the end of the day...for all the stupid and dishonest games you try to play....YOU are the problem.

 

[L88]

Lots of people die from gun violence in large urban population centers. But per capita gun deaths in red states far outstrip blue states.

[td] ​ How many people die from gun-related injuries?​ ​

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What efforts are Democrats making?

 

[mrjurrs]

The title of the thread implies a connection to efforts to reduce gun violence. The information offered in the OP does not discuss gun violence. Your thread is dishonest.

As for addressing ACTUAL gun violence...that's not complicated. Mandatory minimum sentencing for criminals that use weapons in the commission of a crime. Then if you REALLY gave a shit, vote out the rat party you worship and start voting for people that will actually FIX the devastation in the blue cities where the violent crime occurs...in EVERY state.

Your premise is typical of you....its based on lies. And YOU should never accuse others of being afraid to actually address the problem. YOU are the problem. You and every other rat voter that keeps putting in the same elected officials in those rat run cities across the country...those rat run cities that have devastated minority communities and literally FEEDS the gun violence and death in this country.

Are you saying that gun laws, for example red flag laws, do not reduce gun violence? You're wrong.
Are you saying that the majority of Americans do not support red flag laws? You're wrong.
Are you saying Republicans support common sense gun laws that save lives and the majority of Americans support? You're wrong.

Point out the lie in this thread...or you're the liar. By the way, your unsupported opinions are only that. Source your claims.