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Can the GOP Win the Senate and What Will They Accomplish?

Here in Okla City, a local 7-11 is advertising $12.40/hr for a starting clerk and $10.10/hr for part-time. Seems the President's positive message is taking hold in our great Nation, one DEMs should run on, versus the constant negative vitriol from the other party .
 
Nate Silver predicted the GOP had a 61% chance of winning the Senate in 2012.
How'd that work out for him?

Without Adelson's Millions against his former lead attorney Berkley in Nevada for Senate
and Carmona's loose mouth when he was gaining in Arizona, Dems would have run the table.

As it is, Dems have 55 not 49 as Silver predicted . :lamo:lamo
 
You dumb mother ****ers are getting Willie-Hortoned as well as tarred-and-feathered in the TarHeel state and not a ****ing whimper of national support with money.
Just like with the New Jersey governor's race, you idiots.

Willie Hortoned... like Swift Boating? You mean telling the truth in a way that is easy to understand?
 
Willie Hortoned... like Swift Boating? You mean telling the truth in a way that is easy to understand?

The worst coal ash spills in the Nation brought to you by Duke energy malfeasance tied directly to the current GOP governor. With a federal grand jury that has just convened and will destroy Tillis effort to defeat Sen. Hagan, along with Moral Mondays and voter suppression back-firing .
 
After today's blunder by Braley in Iowa, Silver's prediction is a little closer to being correct.
Silver continues to overestimate in Montana, which he missed in 2012.
Silver can't possibly be paying attention to the Georgia Senate race and the peripheral influences.
And Silver fails to mention the BILLION dollar race in Lousiana BETWEEN November and the December, the "jungle" primary run-off .
 
According to Nate Silver, Sen. McConnell will be the next Majority Leader.
What positive things will McConnell accomplish in the last two years of the Obama administration ?
 
Leading GOP Senate candidate Bill Cassidy has definitely had an akin moment within his state.
Calling his constituents "illiterate" isn't the best way I know to defeat Sen. Landrieu .
 
Real Clear Politics now has their Governor and Senate maps up, showing totals with undecided and not.
RCP continues to show the Senate race as a "lean GOP" and the governor's race as a "lean GOP".
Will these two rub on each other?
Will the contested DEM primary for mayor in Atlanta play out on both of these in the General?
With seven months to go, we actually have four legit GOP candidates running for the Senate .
 
Interesting slams just now by C. Matthews on Bevin and McDaniel as TEAs in KY and MS.

With McDaniel slightly ahead of Incumbent Cochran in the MS GOP primary, and confederate links dogging him,
Matthews is wrong to dismiss outright a strong Dem candidate in Travis Childers.

RCP moved it to likely GOP from solid and I believe it is at lean, depending on more damage in the GOP primary.
There's no need for the Dems to help the GOPs make peace with themselves .
 
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Is it better for the GOP to continue to obstruct the Senate as the minority party for the 2016 Presidential election.
All the GOP Senate chirpers could keep chirping on the Prez, while weak-kneed Dems continue to stay silent.

Could Harry and Mitch have a dirty deal worked out to control the Nation ?
 
GOP grows confident of Senate takeover - James Hohmann - POLITICO.com

This will be the first of many links, both by me and others, to the looming takeover of the Senate by the GOP.

I'm wondering what they figure to accomplish with a Presidential veto and a Senate filibuster,
unless they expand the "nuclear option" to legislation.

Chances are the GOP will not do this, since the DEMs have a huge Senate reelection advantage in 2016, but you never know .

Howdy Linc, I think the Republicans can win the senate, but can and doing is different things. Today I think they have a net gain of 4 seats, 2 shy of the 6 needed. If by chance the Republicans do win the senate, if I were on the first thing I would do is revoke Reid's nuclear option as it is not needed if they have the majority and would put the senate right with the world. Then the Republicans could taut being the party that protect minority rights, at least in the senate.

I would also let pass a repeal of Obamacare once, let the president veto it and move on to different legislation. I would bring up everyone of those bills the house passed that Senator Reid tabled, about 200 of them to include 30 out of that 200 that were Democratic sponsored house bills that the Democrats got passed in the republican controlled house and have the senate vote on each and ever one of them.

Then everything is left to the president to either sign them into law or veto them. The president would veto the ACA repeal, but it would then be a matter of record. But once that happens, it is time to leave the ACA alone. That is except for one more time, around July of 2016, perhaps August or September, pass the repeal again to have the president's veto fresh in the public minds for the November election.

But who knows, 2 years from now the ACA might become popular, but I doubt it. I think those oppose and for it have their minds made up after 4 years, 2 more shouldn't make a difference. But I do think it is time to govern. It is time for debate and voting, not tabling. Show the Democrats how the senate should run.
 
Howdy Linc, I think the Republicans can win the senate, but can and doing is different things. Today I think they have a net gain of 4 seats, 2 shy of the 6 needed. If by chance the Republicans do win the senate, if I were on the first thing I would do is revoke Reid's nuclear option as it is not needed if they have the majority and would put the senate right with the world. Then the Republicans could taut being the party that protect minority rights, at least in the senate.
With 24 GOPs up for reelection in 2016,
many of them will be allowed to take easier votes in Blue/Purple states if they are to keep the Senate, Mitch's dream.
The "nuclear option" isn't going anywhere; don't kid yourself with this faux business.
I expect McConnell to do exactly what Sen. Grassley said they'd do, extend the "nuclear option" to LEGISLATION. :lamo
And then nominate more "Clarence Thomas" types, his words .
 
Prove there are 200 bills.
Your "emotional" hatred of Reid is getting the best of you again.
I would also let pass a repeal of Obamacare once, let the president veto it and move on to different legislation. I would bring up everyone of those bills the house passed that Senator Reid tabled, about 200 of them to include 30 out of that 200 that were Democratic sponsored house bills that the Democrats got passed in the republican controlled house and have the senate vote on each and ever one of them.

Then everything is left to the president to either sign them into law or veto them.
The president would veto the ACA repeal, but it would then be a matter of record.
Another ridiculous GOP stunt, waste of time and waste of taxpayer's money.
Certainly not good faith since you're back to the repetitive **** on ACA .
 
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You said this about ACA in your last paragraph.
Since you're being a megaphone for the GOP on ACA, are you capable of talking about anything else?
Then everything is left to the president to either sign them into law or veto them. The president would veto the ACA repeal, but it would then be a matter of record. But once that happens, it is time to leave the ACA alone. That is except for one more time, around July of 2016, perhaps August or September, pass the repeal again to have the president's veto fresh in the public minds for the November election.
But who knows, 2 years from now the ACA might become popular, but I doubt it. I think those oppose and for it have their minds made up after 4 years, 2 more shouldn't make a difference. But I do think it is time to govern. It is time for debate and voting, not tabling. Show the Democrats how the senate should run.

Oh look, another rant paragraph on the ACA--just like the previous ones .
 
Prove there are 200 bills.
Your "emotional" hatred of Reid is getting the best of you again.
Another ridiculous GOP stunt, waste of time and waste of taxpayer's money.
Certainly not good faith since you're back to the repetitive **** on ACA .

You are correct, my dislike of Reid is the only thing that has stopped me from jumping on Michelle Nunn's bandwagon. If Reid wasn't senate majority leader I would have already wrote her a check and organized the few old Reform Party members I keep in touch with and started campaigning for her. But I haven't. The reason is old nuclear option Harry Reid, the tyrant of the senate who has no respect for minority rights, at least when it comes to the minority party.

If I knew my vote for Nunn would mean she took Georgia and by taking Georgia Reid would remain majority leader, I would vote for Hitler or Stalin or the devil himself to keep Reid from being Majority leader again. My heart is with Michelle, my loyalty to her daddy is beyond reproach, but her daddy never had Reid as majority leader. Beside back then I was voting Democrat most of the time anyway.
 
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You said this about ACA in your last paragraph.
Since you're being a megaphone for the GOP on ACA, are you capable of talking about anything else?



Oh look, another rant paragraph on the ACA--just like the previous ones .

When one party tells the majority of Americans who elected them to stick it where the sun don't shine. when party loyalty over rides loyalty to the people who elected them, why shouldn't I rant. I am perfectly okay a Shummer, a Fienstien, a Boxer, a Sanders, all voting for it because that was what the voters of their state wanted. They did what those whom elected them wanted them to do. The Landrieus, the Begich, the Hagans, the Pryors, the Nelsons, McCaskill, Tester, Baucas, and a few more, they told those who elected them to shove it, you do not count, you mean nothing, only the Democratic party means anything to the ones I mentioned.

How can a piece of major legislation pass when only 35% of Americans want it? Social Security had close to 70% who wanted it, Medicare over 60%, both of those two pieces of legislation receive good Republican support and one can say it was bipartisan. The ACA is purely a Democratic Party Agenda that the majority of American did not want and still do not want. If anything has driven me into the Republicans arms, it is nuclear option Reid and the ACA.

Anyway, I will be headed for bed in a few, the wife says get ready. Take care.
 
When one party tells the majority of Americans who elected them to stick it where the sun don't shine. when party loyalty over rides loyalty to the people who elected them, why shouldn't I rant. I am perfectly okay a Shummer, a Fienstien, a Boxer, a Sanders, all voting for it because that was what the voters of their state wanted. They did what those whom elected them wanted them to do. The Landrieus, the Begich, the Hagans, the Pryors, the Nelsons, McCaskill, Tester, Baucas, and a few more, they told those who elected them to shove it, you do not count, you mean nothing, only the Democratic party means anything to the ones I mentioned.
Looks like the tide is turning in public opinion in the South on ACA.
Gov. Deal continues to cost Georgia 76,000 jobs by not taking Medicaid Expansion, money going to other GOP statesw like Ohio.
You can tell Rove is getting desperate with the latest southern polls.

Harry Reid Tries To Pick GOP Candidates | Karl Rove

Rove/Americans for Prosperity/Koch brothers spend tens of millions on hit ads on Southern Democrats, distorting and false-hooding, using a Rove term
Now Rove is all butt-hurt that DEMs are spending a few hundred thousand per race to set the record straight.
 
Rachel has been tearing apart Cory Gardner/Colorado for about ten minutes.
Now that he is running for the Senate, Gardner was "not aware of the language" in the personhood amendment he sponsored for eight years. :lamo
Banning contraception.
And now endorsed by Rick Santorum .
 
Looks like the tide is turning in public opinion in the South on ACA.
Gov. Deal continues to cost Georgia 76,000 jobs by not taking Medicaid Expansion, money going to other GOP statesw like Ohio.
You can tell Rove is getting desperate with the latest southern polls.

Harry Reid Tries To Pick GOP Candidates | Karl Rove

Rove/Americans for Prosperity/Koch brothers spend tens of millions on hit ads on Southern Democrats, distorting and false-hooding, using a Rove term
Now Rove is all butt-hurt that DEMs are spending a few hundred thousand per race to set the record straight.

I seen this on TV while I was eating supper. It is what I expect in today's politics where lies, falsehoods, half-truths, smears, throwing mud etc. is what Nothing is said about the issue, ideas, solutions to our problems, just attack and throw mud. These just happen to be Democratic ads with Reid's name on the bottom. The Republicans do the same thing. It is the sign of the times. Divide and conquer, who care if one has to rule or govern over a very divided nation, at least you won.

Sometimes I get tired of it all. Perhaps that is what I need to do, take three or four weeks off. Here is a poll by rasmussen which states that 53% of the American people think neither party represents American people. As for having a plan for the future the Democrats poll better than the Republicans, but that is what I would expect.

53% Think Neither Political Party Represents the American People - Rasmussen Reports™

Poll after poll tend to show the majority of Americans dislike both parties. I suppose even party affiliation/identification also backs that up. Between 1932-1975 roughly 50% of the electorate identified or associated themselves with the Democratic Party, today that number is down to 29% using Gallups latest numbers. The Republican Party has always been between 25-35% and have never came close to representing half of America. They have been as low as 21%, 1975 and last year. They are up to 25% per Gallup this month.

It seems to me both parties are running away from the American people. I wish Perot was 20-25 years younger and was capable of running in 2016, with the dissatisfaction with both major parties, I am sure he would win. Back in the 90's when Perot ran only 39% of the electorate said they would consider voting for a third party candidate, to that number is 81%. Another sign of dissatisfaction with both parties. I personally think the democrats would care if only 10% of all America were satisfied with them and identified them as their party as long as the Republicans were lower, at 5% perhaps. This is what happens when our elected officials represent their party instead of the people who sent them to Washington.

Anyway, it is about bedtime. Politics today is what it is, Rove or Reid, it is nasty and underhanded where truth is the first thing lost in a compaign. By the way, what do you think about the president postponing the decision on the keystone pipeline to receive that 100 million dollars from that California guy? Just another example of the two major political parties having their heart and souls bought and owned by these huge mega million dollar donors, corporations, lobbyists, Wall Street, pacs and super pacs. This is about as close to a quid pro quo as one can get. The guy with the 100 million buck tells the president if he wants the money, do not approve the pipeline. That is exactly what happened.

But as I said, in today's politics and political atmosphere, it doesn't surprise me one bit. I have come to expect it. Take care,
 
I seen this on TV while I was eating supper. It is what I expect in today's politics where lies, falsehoods, half-truths, smears, throwing mud etc. is what Nothing is said about the issue, ideas, solutions to our problems, just attack and throw mud. These just happen to be Democratic ads with Reid's name on the bottom. The Republicans do the same thing. It is the sign of the times. Divide and conquer, who care if one has to rule or govern over a very divided nation, at least you won.

Sometimes I get tired of it all. Perhaps that is what I need to do, take three or four weeks off. Here is a poll by rasmussen which states that 53% of the American people think neither party represents American people. As for having a plan for the future the Democrats poll better than the Republicans, but that is what I would expect.

53% Think Neither Political Party Represents the American People - Rasmussen Reports™
I'll use a baseball analogy for the Senate elections, with the DEMs as the home team trying to hold their lead in the Senate.
I'd say we're in the bottom of the third, with DEMs still hitting back against AFP/Koch hit ads since the GOP shut down the gov't.

The GOP struck out in the top of the 1st with said gov't shutdown.
DEMs then severely screwed the pooch with their ACA roll-out, actually losing runs.
GOPs 0 DEMs -2.

GOPs scored at will through the end of 2013, taking a big lead in the top of the 2nd.
DEMs continued to piss down their legs in the first months of 2014,
allowing hit ads to go unchallenged and losing huge leads in RED/PURPLE states.
After two innings, GOPs 4 and DEMs -4.

In the top of the third, a new generation of GOP Akins has surfaced.
That and a false sense of we can't lose in this Senate battle have set the GOP back.
Just look at Gardner's problem with his support of personhood in Colorado, and his lame attempt to walk it back.
No runs here for the GOP.

As DEMs continue to bat in the bottom of the 3rd, they have Cotton on the run, as with the LA clown, even MT, maybe McConnell,
definitely Tillis, Land and others on the defensive.
We see Rove in desperation mode already whining about DEMs spending 1/10 of what GOPs spend.
DEMs also have a good chance to pick up a number of governors they lost in 2010.
And ACA has probably bottomed out as a negative issue for DEMs.

I have it as GOPs 4 and DEMs 0 after three innings in winning the election .
 
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I'll use a baseball analogy for the Senate elections, with the DEMs as the home team trying to hold their lead in the Senate.
I'd say we're in the bottom of the third, with DEMs still hitting back against AFP/Koch hit ads since the GOP shut down the gov't.

The GOP struck out in the top of the 1st with said gov't shutdown.
DEMs then severely screwed the pooch with their ACA roll-out, actually losing runs.
GOPs 0 DEMs -2.

GOPs scored at will through the end of 2013, taking a big lead in the top of the 2nd.
DEMs continued to piss down their legs in the first months of 2014,
allowing hit ads to go unchallenged and losing huge leads in RED/PURPLE states.
After two innings, GOPs 4 and DEMs -4.

In the top of the third, a new generation of GOP Akins has surfaced.
That and a false sense of we can't lose in this Senate battle have set the GOP back.
Just look at Gardner's problem with his support of personhood in Colorado, and his lame attempt to walk it back.
No runs here for the GOP.

As DEMs continue to bat in the bottom of the 3rd, they have Cotton on the run, as with the LA clown, even MT, maybe McConnell,
definitely Tillis, Land and others on the defensive.
We see Rove in desperation mode already whining about DEMs spending 1/10 of what GOPs spend.
DEMs also have a good chance to pick up a number of governors they lost in 2010.
And ACA has probably bottomed out as a negative issue for DEMs.

I have it as GOPs 4 and DEMs 0 after three innings in winning the election .

If a win is gaining six seats, I do not see that today. Daines has a 14 point lead in Montana and unless he pulls an Aiken, he should win. Capito in west Virginia has also increased her lead to 14 points and South Dakota is probably a safe pick up where the first two are likely. Then there is nothing but question marks. I think Peters wins in Michigan, Braley in Iowa and Udall in Colorado, so what is remaining? North Carolina, Louisiana, Alaska, Arkansas are all good territory for the GOP, they could win all 4 or lose all 4. Today, I think Begich survives, I think Landrieu loses in a runoff as she will fail to get the 50% needed in November's jungle election, in the runoff those who voted for Maness and Hollis will change their vote to Cassidy. So that narrows the last two to NC and AR. Pryor is making a good comeback as all good incumbents will. But the latest poll by the NY Times/Kaiser puts Pryor 10 points ahead.

I wondered about that and went inside the poll to see whom exactly they polled. This was an eye catcher. Low and behold they polled more democrats 29% than republican's 23% and 38% independents, throw in the fact they also polled more people that said they voted for Obama than Romney by a state that went 61-37 for Romney. So I threw this poll out. But regardless, I think Cotton will pull it out, at least today. As for North Carolina, Hagan is up by a combination of three different polls by a point. I am leaving NC as a GOP pickup for my 1 May update, but will probably change it later that month. So I come up with a pick up of 5 seats. WV, SD, MT, LA and AR. I am with you on Kentucky now, McConnell probably will pull it out although I am rooting against him. But I do think Michelle Nunn wins in Georgia for a Democratic pick up and maybe Jason Carter triumps also in the governors race. So the senate should consist of 51D's and 49R's.

The sad news for me is we will be stuck with the combo of Reid and McConnell for another two years at least. This is the worst thing that could happen to the good old USA.
 
If a win is gaining six seats, I do not see that today. Daines has a 14 point lead in Montana and unless he pulls an Aiken, he should win. Capito in west Virginia has also increased her lead to 14 points and South Dakota is probably a safe pick up where the first two are likely. Then there is nothing but question marks. I think Peters wins in Michigan, Braley in Iowa and Udall in Colorado, so what is remaining? North Carolina, Louisiana, Alaska, Arkansas are all good territory for the GOP, they could win all 4 or lose all 4. Today, I think Begich survives, I think Landrieu loses in a runoff as she will fail to get the 50% needed in November's jungle election, in the runoff those who voted for Maness and Hollis will change their vote to Cassidy. So that narrows the last two to NC and AR. Pryor is making a good comeback as all good incumbents will. But the latest poll by the NY Times/Kaiser puts Pryor 10 points ahead.

I wondered about that and went inside the poll to see whom exactly they polled. This was an eye catcher. Low and behold they polled more democrats 29% than republican's 23% and 38% independents, throw in the fact they also polled more people that said they voted for Obama than Romney by a state that went 61-37 for Romney. So I threw this poll out. But regardless, I think Cotton will pull it out, at least today. As for North Carolina, Hagan is up by a combination of three different polls by a point. I am leaving NC as a GOP pickup for my 1 May update, but will probably change it later that month. So I come up with a pick up of 5 seats. WV, SD, MT, LA and AR. I am with you on Kentucky now, McConnell probably will pull it out although I am rooting against him. But I do think Michelle Nunn wins in Georgia for a Democratic pick up and maybe Jason Carter triumps also in the governors race. So the senate should consist of 51D's and 49R's.

The sad news for me is we will be stuck with the combo of Reid and McConnell for another two years at least. This is the worst thing that could happen to the good old USA.

Greetings, Pero. :2wave:

What is causing all the see-sawing going on with voter sentiment from one month to the next? Nothing extraordinary seems to be happening, yet Hagan was down fairly low in N Carolina, as an example, and has since apparently recouped quite a bit. Is it different people with different opinions being polled, or more hard-nose campaigning, or what?
 
I'll use a baseball analogy for the Senate elections, with the DEMs as the home team trying to hold their lead in the Senate.
I'd say we're in the bottom of the third, with DEMs still hitting back against AFP/Koch hit ads since the GOP shut down the gov't.

The GOP struck out in the top of the 1st with said gov't shutdown.
DEMs then severely screwed the pooch with their ACA roll-out, actually losing runs.
GOPs 0 DEMs -2.

GOPs scored at will through the end of 2013, taking a big lead in the top of the 2nd.
DEMs continued to piss down their legs in the first months of 2014,
allowing hit ads to go unchallenged and losing huge leads in RED/PURPLE states.
After two innings, GOPs 4 and DEMs -4.

In the top of the third, a new generation of GOP Akins has surfaced.
That and a false sense of we can't lose in this Senate battle have set the GOP back.
Just look at Gardner's problem with his support of personhood in Colorado, and his lame attempt to walk it back.
No runs here for the GOP.

As DEMs continue to bat in the bottom of the 3rd, they have Cotton on the run, as with the LA clown, even MT, maybe McConnell,
definitely Tillis, Land and others on the defensive.
We see Rove in desperation mode already whining about DEMs spending 1/10 of what GOPs spend.
DEMs also have a good chance to pick up a number of governors they lost in 2010.
And ACA has probably bottomed out as a negative issue for DEMs.

I have it as GOPs 4 and DEMs 0 after three innings in winning the election .

By the way Linc, since Cook updated his predictions today, here is the run down by the heavy hitters:

Professional Prognosticators Senate predictions as of 25 April 2014. Current senate consists of 55 Democratic held seats 45 Republican held seats.
Charlie Cook 47 Democratic 46 Republican: Tossups (6 Democratic held seats) Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Louisiana, Michigan, and North Carolina. (2 Republican held seats) Georgia and Kentucky (Democrat to Republican West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota) (No Republican to Democratic seats)

For the Republicans to take control of the senate according to Cook, they must retain Georgia and Kentucky and win 3 of the 6 Democratic held seats he lists as tossups.


EP 51 Democratic 49 Republican: No toss ups (Democrat to Republican West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, North Carolina) (No Republican to Democratic seats)

EP states the Democrats retain control of the senate.


Nate Silver 538, 49 Republican 48 Democratic: Tossups (3 Democratic held seats Alaska, Louisiana, and North Carolina. (Democrat to Republican Arkansas, Montana, South Dakota, West Virginia). (No Republican to Democratic seats.)

Nate says the Republican’s must win 2 of the three seats he lists as tossups. Nate and Cook are basically saying the same thing.

RCP 50 Republican 50 Democrat (Democrat to Republican, Alaska, Louisiana, Michigan, Montana, South Dakota, West Virginia) (Republican to Democrat, Kentucky)

RCP no toss up predicts a even 50-50 split in the senate. With Joe Biden providing the tie breaking vote, the Senate will remain Democratic.

Rothenberg 50 Democrat 49 Republican: Tossup (1 Democratic held seat) Louisiana (Democrat to Republican, West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, Arkansas) (No Republican to Democrat seats)

For Stuart Rothenberg the Democrats are a lock to retain control of the senate. Even if Louisiana goes Republican, it would result in a 50-50 tie with Vice President Biden casting the deciding votes thus enabling the Democrats to retain their control.

Sabato 48 Democrat 49 Republican: 3 Tossups (3 Democratic Held seats) Alaska, North Carolina, Louisiana (Democratic to Republican, West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, Arkansas) (No Republican to Democratic seats)

It comes down for the Republicans to win 2 of the 3 tossup seats if they are to gain control of the senate per Larry Sabato.

House of Representatives: Currently 234 Republican 201 Democrat. 218 seats needed for a majority.

Cook: Republicans 230, Democrat 188 Tossups 4 Republican held seats, 13 Democratic held seats
EP: Republicans 234, Democrat 201 no Tossups
Silver: No House predictions as of yet.
RCP: Republicans 232, Democrat 187 Tossups 3 Republican held seats, 13 Democratic held seats
Rothenberg: Republicans 227, Democrat 192 Tossups 7 Republican held seats, 9 Democratic held seats
Sabato: Republican 230, Democrat 195 10 Tossups 4 Republican held seats, 6 Democratic held seats.

If you look at these numbers, the Republicans will probably gain 4-8 seats.
 
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