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can someone tell me any objective benefit of gun registration?[W488, 1267]

would you be willing to say bet your life on that claim? that if we allow registration but later its used for confiscation, you would forfeit your life? I bet not

Like the government couldn't confiscate them without registration. :lol:
 
Like the government couldn't confiscate them without registration. :lol:

Only if they went house to house with warrantless searches. I think if that happened, most of the government officials would be dead or dying along with those who carried out the searches
 
the Hitler "final solution" started with stuff like registration of firearms.

how long do you think the "third reich" would have lasted if every adult jew had say a bolt action rifle and fought as hard as their kinsmen in the Polish Ghetto did?

Now you're comparing the US Government to the Third Reich?

Man, that's out of this world.
 
would you be willing to say bet your life on that claim? that if we allow registration but later its used for confiscation, you would forfeit your life? I bet not

More foolishness and stupidity, why an I not surprised?
 
so you think the way to beat the dem gun banners is to comply with their incremental steps towards confiscation

That's really stupid

Slippery slope fallacy.
 
the Hitler "final solution" started with stuff like registration of firearms.

how long do you think the "third reich" would have lasted if every adult jew had say a bolt action rifle and fought as hard as their kinsmen in the Polish Ghetto did?

Godwin, really?
 
Only if they went house to house with warrantless searches. I think if that happened, most of the government officials would be dead or dying along with those who carried out the searches

So you agree that it's not really going to happen?
 
Only if they went house to house with warrantless searches. I think if that happened, most of the government officials would be dead or dying along with those who carried out the searches

Doubtful many in the government would support that.
 
So you agree that it's not really going to happen?

It could, but not the way you envision. You think by throwing out a seemingly ridiculous scenario, that you can make people believe that it couldn't ever happen at all.
 
It could, but not the way you envision. You think by throwing out a seemingly ridiculous scenario, that you can make people believe that it couldn't ever happen at all.

I'm not the one creating ridiculous scenarios to scare people.
 
the Hitler "final solution" started with stuff like registration of firearms.

Just what is the percentage of registration laws which led to things like the final solution of Germany?
 
uh that is still bs and has no relevance to whether the registry decreased the violent crime rate in Canada.

Because you know for absolutely sure what would have happened without it?
 
Only if they went house to house with warrantless searches. I think if that happened, most of the government officials would be dead or dying along with those who carried out the searches

Why would the governmental officials be dead?
 
How do you know it was your rifle? How were you notified they found it? Or, did you keep hounding the PD until they finally told you they'd recovered a rifle from a criminal?

I reported it stolen. Gave make/model/serial number. They recovered said firearm quite a while later. Checked it's serial number against the one I reported stolen and returned it. Simple. No need for a registry in that regard. I keep the serial numbers of all my stereo/power tools or anything with a serial number for insurance purposes. In the event something is stolen, I can provide law enforcement with the serial numbers. Firearms are no different and treated the same way.
 
When 81% of trained professionals using the system rate it as producing beneficial results in the performance of their job to serve and protect and fight crime - that can only be viewed as extremely positive and a definite plus for the system.

Define "it"....as in, which registry did they find useful? From what I have seen, the registry found useful by sheer access and usage was the licensed users registry. The "registry" consists of several registries. The long gun registry saw almost none.
 
Like the government couldn't confiscate them without registration. :lol:

How would they? Without a registration in place it would be next to impossible to even put a dent in the number of legally owned firearms. As it stands now, in order to do so would require an incredible amount effort and the intent would be evident long before anyone was able to actually implement it. "Oh, you are here for what?? Afraid I do not own that anymore".
 
How would they? Without a registration in place it would be next to impossible to even put a dent in the number of legally owned firearms. As it stands now, in order to do so would require an incredible amount effort and the intent would be evident long before anyone was able to actually implement it. "Oh, you are here for what?? Afraid I do not own that anymore".

Firearms? No. Mine are just plain old flesh and blood. See?
 
Why would the governmental officials be dead?

because if they ordered the cops to go door to door smashing into peoples' homes without warrants to seize firearms, they would need shooting and lots of people would be justified in shooting them
 
Because you know for absolutely sure what would have happened without it?

that's not a legitimate argument for a law that harasses people.
 
Just what is the percentage of registration laws which led to things like the final solution of Germany?

that's a pretty silly question. its like asking what percentage of our history of slavery is responsible for the black cultural pathologies that cause massive rates of teen pregnancies, HS drop outs and more than half of the murders
 
because if they ordered the cops to go door to door smashing into peoples' homes without warrants to seize firearms, they would need shooting and lots of people would be justified in shooting them

Justified!?!?!?!? You justify the cold blooded murder of people who you disagree with on a matter of public policy? One can understand the claim that there might well be violent interactions with police at your door acting without a warrant - but you are going way way way beyond that to advocating political assassination.
 
that's a pretty silly question. its like asking what percentage of our history of slavery is responsible for the black cultural pathologies that cause massive rates of teen pregnancies, HS drop outs and more than half of the murders

Actually it is the perfectly logical question that any researcher would ask of a claim made without verifiable evidence provided to substantiate that claim.

Just what is the percentage of registration laws which led to things like the final solution of Germany?


And the rest of your post has nothing to do with any registry or confiscation where it is a finite set of numbers that can be examined and compared.
 
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