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Can Hillary Clinton get away with spying on Trump in 2016?

Will Hillary Clinton face criminal charges for spying on Trump in 2016?

  • A good chance that she will be criminally liable

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • She will get away criminal behavior once again

    Votes: 7 17.5%
  • Because it was targeting Trump, Democrats will completely ignore the findings of Durham

    Votes: 17 42.5%
  • Other because no one really cares

    Votes: 16 40.0%

  • Total voters
    40

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Trump Really Was Spied On​

Durham says techies linked to the Clinton campaign had access to White House and Trump Tower internet data.

Mr. Durham’s revelations take the 2016 collusion scam well beyond the Steele dossier, which was based on the unvetted claims of a Russian emigre working in Washington. Those claims and the Sussmann assertions were channeled to the highest levels of the government via contacts at the FBI, CIA and State Department. They became fodder for secret and unjustified warrants against a former Trump campaign official, and later for Robert Mueller’s two-year mole hunt that turned up no evidence of collusion.

Along the way the Clinton campaign fed these bogus claims to a willing and gullible media. And now we know its operatives used private tech researchers to monitor White House communications. If you made this up, you’d be laughed out of a Netflix story pitch.

Mr. Durham’s legal filing is related to certain conflicts of interest in Mr. Sussmann’s legal team, and it remains unclear where else his probe is going. But the unfolding information underscores that the Russia collusion story was one of the dirtiest tricks in U.S. political history. Mr. Durham should tell the whole sordid story.


Appeared in the February 15, 2022, print edition of the WSJ

 

Trump Really Was Spied On​

Durham says techies linked to the Clinton campaign had access to White House and Trump Tower internet data.

Mr. Durham’s revelations take the 2016 collusion scam well beyond the Steele dossier, which was based on the unvetted claims of a Russian emigre working in Washington. Those claims and the Sussmann assertions were channeled to the highest levels of the government via contacts at the FBI, CIA and State Department. They became fodder for secret and unjustified warrants against a former Trump campaign official, and later for Robert Mueller’s two-year mole hunt that turned up no evidence of collusion.

Along the way the Clinton campaign fed these bogus claims to a willing and gullible media. And now we know its operatives used private tech researchers to monitor White House communications. If you made this up, you’d be laughed out of a Netflix story pitch.

Mr. Durham’s legal filing is related to certain conflicts of interest in Mr. Sussmann’s legal team, and it remains unclear where else his probe is going. But the unfolding information underscores that the Russia collusion story was one of the dirtiest tricks in U.S. political history. Mr. Durham should tell the whole sordid story.


Appeared in the February 15, 2022, print edition of the WSJ

The WSJ editorial board needs to hire a couple of techies before posting such a stupid opinion.
 
Because Hillary is still a major behind the scenes player of the DNC, this will be spun, denied, deflected and projected onto DJT saying it was the Trump campaign that spied on the Trump campaign and a new bipartisan investigation will be initiated to impeach him yet another time.
 
Because Hillary is still a major behind the scenes player of the DNC, this will be spun, denied, deflected and projected onto DJT saying it was the Trump campaign that spied on the Trump campaign and a new bipartisan investigation will be initiated to impeach him yet another time.
Since when can an Ex-President be impeached?
 

Trump Really Was Spied On​

Durham says techies linked to the Clinton campaign had access to White House and Trump Tower internet data.

Mr. Durham’s revelations take the 2016 collusion scam well beyond the Steele dossier, which was based on the unvetted claims of a Russian emigre working in Washington. Those claims and the Sussmann assertions were channeled to the highest levels of the government via contacts at the FBI, CIA and State Department. They became fodder for secret and unjustified warrants against a former Trump campaign official, and later for Robert Mueller’s two-year mole hunt that turned up no evidence of collusion.

Along the way the Clinton campaign fed these bogus claims to a willing and gullible media. And now we know its operatives used private tech researchers to monitor White House communications. If you made this up, you’d be laughed out of a Netflix story pitch.

Mr. Durham’s legal filing is related to certain conflicts of interest in Mr. Sussmann’s legal team, and it remains unclear where else his probe is going. But the unfolding information underscores that the Russia collusion story was one of the dirtiest tricks in U.S. political history. Mr. Durham should tell the whole sordid story.


Appeared in the February 15, 2022, print edition of the WSJ

I dunno, can Trump get away with ****ing goats? See, anyone can ask these stupid questions divorced from reality.
 
Since the left went bat shit crazy with TDS. Impeaching Trump is all they know how to do. They will call it a retroactive impeachment.
There is historical precedent to impeach a government official, even after they leave their office: see William W. Belknap.

The Constitution does not offer a time frame upon impeachment. Punishment for a president is to be removed from office, not allowed to run for office again or to loose all perks post service. Or combination thereof.

SIDE NOTE: using TDS to attack liberals with is a lame approach given derangement syndrome from the right towards Obama and Hillary years after they have left service as well the current Biden Derangement Syndrome.
 
Since when can an Ex-President be impeached?
Since always. As I pointed out before...the Constitution does not offer a time frame upon impeachment. Punishment for a president is to be removed from office, not allowed to run for office again or to loose all perks post service. Or combination thereof.
 
Since always. As I pointed out before...the Constitution does not offer a time frame upon impeachment. Punishment for a president is to be removed from office, not allowed to run for office again or to loose all perks post service. Or combination thereof.

Your confident tone leads me to be polite. How is it possible to "remove from office" someone who isn't currently in office?

William W. Belknap isn't as good a precedent as you think it is. The committee had already recommended his impeachment and he was impeached later the same day as he resigned. On the perhaps specious reasoning that the events were simultaneous, occurring on the same day. Particularly amusing is that he was impeached at 11 in the morning ...

Anyway, it's not a good precedent for trying to impeach someone months or years after they resigned or left office naturally.
 
Anyway, it's not a good precedent for trying to impeach someone months or years after they resigned or left office naturally.
Like that would stop the left from going after and impeaching Trump. 10 years after Trump is declared physically dead they will still be looking for new shit to impeach him posthumously. That's who they are, that's what they do.
 
Like that would stop the left from going after and impeaching Trump. 10 years after Trump is declared physically dead they will still be looking for new shit to impeach him posthumously. That's who they are, that's what they do.
Wow! It seems to be one steaming pile of hyperbolic horseshit after another with your posts.

Is that you again 'John Barron'?
 
Like that would stop the left from going after and impeaching Trump. 10 years after Trump is declared physically dead they will still be looking for new shit to impeach him posthumously. That's who they are, that's what they do.

Utter drivel.
 
Wow! It seems to be one steaming pile of hyperbolic horseshit after another with your posts.

Is that you again 'John Barron'?
Utter drivel.
Pretty ironic coming from the left who have said nothing except hyperbolic horseshit and drivel for the past 5 years. When the left does it, it is SO SERIOUS, but when someone else pokes fun at anyone on the left it horseshit. You know what really is hyperbolic horseshit? The Russia Hoax, 2 partisan impeachments, and the Jan.6 Hoax. BBB is another and the Voter's Rights bill is another. NO, those are SERIOUS. But you know what? Keep the partisan horseshit coming. Trust me, the voters love it and can't wait to cast their votes for more hyperbolic horseshit. I dare you.
 
Pretty ironic coming from the left who have said nothing except hyperbolic horseshit and drivel for the past 5 years. When the left does it, it is SO SERIOUS, but when someone else pokes fun at anyone on the left it horseshit. You know what really is hyperbolic horseshit? The Russia Hoax, 2 partisan impeachments, and the Jan.6 Hoax. BBB is another and the Voter's Rights bill is another. NO, those are SERIOUS. But you know what? Keep the partisan horseshit coming. Trust me, the voters love it and can't wait to cast their votes for more hyperbolic horseshit. I dare you.
?? There was never any "Russian Hoax". and anybody who willing to sit in front of a live news broadcast for 4+ hours on January 6th knows that wasn't any hoax either. As for the impeachments, we now know he could have been rightfully impeached at least 2, if not 3 MORE TIMES than he was. Obstruction of Justice is an impeachable offense, violations of the emoluments clause were impeachable offenses, and his most recently exposed escapades, violations of the Presidential Records Act while in office, was probably impeachable, too!

It has nothing to do with partisanship. Trump is a misogynist, a racist, a charlatan, a low-life criminal asshole, and has been his entire life. He was never qualified to occupy the Oval Office, he was a national embarrassment as POTUS, his time is over, and it will never come again.

And you dare me . . . . . what ?!!?
 
?? There was never any "Russian Hoax". and anybody who willing to sit in front of a live news broadcast for 4+ hours on January 6th knows that wasn't any hoax either. As for the impeachments, we now know he could have been rightfully impeached at least 2, if not 3 MORE TIMES than he was. Obstruction of Justice is an impeachable offense, violations of the emoluments clause were impeachable offenses, and his most recently exposed escapades, violations of the Presidential Records Act while in office, was probably impeachable, too!

It has nothing to do with partisanship. Trump is a misogynist, a racist, a charlatan, a low-life criminal asshole, and has been his entire life. He was never qualified to occupy the Oval Office, he was a national embarrassment as POTUS, his time is over, and it will never come again.

And you dare me . . . . . what ?!!?
I dare you all on the left to keep up the partisan hyperbolic horseshit, and continue to express your TDS on every occasion, to anyone who will tolerate you.
 
Pretty ironic coming from the left who have said nothing except hyperbolic horseshit and drivel for the past 5 years. When the left does it, it is SO SERIOUS, but when someone else pokes fun at anyone on the left it horseshit. You know what really is hyperbolic horseshit? The Russia Hoax, 2 partisan impeachments, and the Jan.6 Hoax.

You seriously expect us to accept that Jan 6 2001 was a "hoax"? Man, we've seen the video. That's no hoax.

BBB is another and the Voter's Rights bill is another. NO, those are SERIOUS. But you know what? Keep the partisan horseshit coming. Trust me, the voters love it and can't wait to cast their votes for more hyperbolic horseshit. I dare you.

Well you're right about the voters. I say run a big fat tax cut through the House and dare the Republicans to vote against it in the Senate. I want to see Mitch McConnell's jaw finally drop off.
 
I dare you all on the left to keep up the partisan hyperbolic horseshit, and continue to express your TDS on every occasion, to anyone who will tolerate you.

It's not about Trump any more. He's history. YOU'RE the one bringing up Trump at every opportunity.

Your hero has fallen. Don't do for him what he would never do for you, just leave him for the jackals and buzzards.
 
I dare you all on the left to keep up the partisan hyperbolic horseshit, and continue to express your TDS on every occasion, to anyone who will tolerate you.
?? It isn't partisan. As long as Trump's crimes continue to make the news, and as long as Trump's lies can be heard, and have any effect on the electorate, you can bet millions of Americans - the adults among us that is - will continue to put him and his cult in their place. Not with horseshit, but with facts!

Hillary Clinton isn't running for anything, and she hasn't held a public office in more than 9 YEARS! If there's any derangement syndrome going on, it's HDS. Trump is only getting what he himself is begging for.

History will not be kind to Donald Trump, and even less kind to his cult of defenders.
 
I don’t think this one is going to be just brushed under the rug.
 

Trump Really Was Spied On​

Durham says techies linked to the Clinton campaign had access to White House and Trump Tower internet data.

Mr. Durham’s revelations take the 2016 collusion scam well beyond the Steele dossier, which was based on the unvetted claims of a Russian emigre working in Washington. Those claims and the Sussmann assertions were channeled to the highest levels of the government via contacts at the FBI, CIA and State Department. They became fodder for secret and unjustified warrants against a former Trump campaign official, and later for Robert Mueller’s two-year mole hunt that turned up no evidence of collusion.

Along the way the Clinton campaign fed these bogus claims to a willing and gullible media. And now we know its operatives used private tech researchers to monitor White House communications. If you made this up, you’d be laughed out of a Netflix story pitch.

Mr. Durham’s legal filing is related to certain conflicts of interest in Mr. Sussmann’s legal team, and it remains unclear where else his probe is going. But the unfolding information underscores that the Russia collusion story was one of the dirtiest tricks in U.S. political history. Mr. Durham should tell the whole sordid story.


Appeared in the February 15, 2022, print edition of the WSJ

In other words when the right reads 'durham says' their minds get 'hillary guilty'. How about some legal proof to back up the accusation?
 
Your confident tone leads me to be polite. How is it possible to "remove from office" someone who isn't currently in office?

William W. Belknap isn't as good a precedent as you think it is. The committee had already recommended his impeachment and he was impeached later the same day as he resigned. On the perhaps specious reasoning that the events were simultaneous, occurring on the same day. Particularly amusing is that he was impeached at 11 in the morning ...

Anyway, it's not a good precedent for trying to impeach someone months or years after they resigned or left office naturally.
Impeachment is the sole property of the house. An elected official can be impeached but not removed from office just like trump was twice.
 
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