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Californians told not to charge their electric cars at times on Labor Day weekend

Possibly people who have been warning about how AGW is going to cause increasing temperatures, increasingly severe weather, yadda yadda. It's supposed to be boiling in CA this weekend.

However, I have every faith that the luddite/AGW-is-hoax crowd will find ways to suggest that actually, a ban on gas-powered cars starting in 2035 caused this in 2022, or that somehow if we only used fossil blackouts wouldn't be a threat when everyone decides flipping on AC/etc at the same time in a heat wave.

CA hasn't exactly done a great job with its power grid. Neither did TX. 🤷
 
Mr Person said:
Possibly people who have been warning about how AGW is going to cause increasing temperatures, increasingly severe weather, yadda yadda. It's supposed to be boiling in CA this weekend.

However, I have every faith that the luddite/AGW-is-hoax crowd will find ways to suggest that actually, a ban on gas-powered cars starting in 2035 caused this in 2022, or that somehow if we only used fossil blackouts wouldn't be a threat when everyone decides flipping on AC/etc at the same time in a heat wave.

CA hasn't exactly done a great job with its power grid. Neither did TX.
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None of the above, but the idea that everyone relying on battery electric cars, when the grid is already near capacity,
may not be the best plan!
 
They should have some river fires like in Ohio. Then people who will never go to California but hate it because of faux will be happy for thirty or forty seconds before returning to their normal state of bitter, simmering rage.
 
Most should charge during non-peak anyway. That can help balance the grid.
 
longview said:
None of the above, but the idea that everyone relying on battery electric cars, when the grid is already near capacity,
may not be the best plan!
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Then the grid needs to be expanded, like it has always been as draw increases over time.
 
Who would have though that extreme temperatures could be tough on the power grid?
 
HIP56948 said:
Seems reasonable. Voluntarily asking not to charge your car for 5 hours for one day is not that big a deal.
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Nothing is a big deal to morons. Wearing a mask? No big deal. The vaccine? No big deal. Charging constraints? No big deal

When’s the last time we were asked not to pump gas for 5 hours a day?
 
VySky said:
Nothing is a big deal to morons. Wearing a mask? No big deal. The vaccine? No big deal. Charging constraints? No big deal

When’s the last time we were asked not to pump gas for 5 hours a day?
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The early-mid 70's

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You're not Capgras! said:
Who would have though that extreme temperatures could be tough on the power grid?
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But California is one of the most wealthy states in America and stuff (at least that's the claim of the Liberals)! They should be able to afford a grand, state-of-the-art electrical grid that can withstand it.
 
Roadvirus said:
But California is one of the most wealthy states in America and stuff (at least that's the claim of the Liberals)! They should be able to afford a grand, state-of-the-art electrical grid that can withstand it.
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'You people" always seem to conveniently forget California is not as liberal as y'all think it is. Do you recall where Nixon and Reagan, Louis 'Loco" Gohmert and McCarthy to name but a few. That's not even getting into my original point, heat is energy "waste" Just like Texas's Grid wasn't built for subzero, hardly any of the 48 states built grids for several days of heat in the triple digits.
 
Roadvirus said:
But California is one of the most wealthy states in America and stuff (at least that's the claim of the Liberals)! They should be able to afford a grand, state-of-the-art electrical grid that can withstand it.
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And America is the "most wealthy" country in the world. You're not making a good argument.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yes, but how long until it isn't voluntary?
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That's a good point. I know that about 16 percent of new electric/Batt cars in California will be purchased this year.
As time goes by, that 16 will grow many times. Hopefully better batteries will be invented/produced.
As you point out, there may come a time when charging a vehicle at the wrong time will get you in trouble or a fat fine. :(
 
HIP56948 said:
That's a good point. I know that about 16 percent of new electric/Batt cars in California will be purchased this year.
As time goes by, that 16 will grow many times. Hopefully better batteries will be invented/produced.
As you point out, there may come a time when charging a vehicle at the wrong time will get you in trouble or a fat fine. :(
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I suspect instead, new meters will be installed everywhere, and you will be charged by what time of day you use it, and the reserve available.

There is ano way energy prices will be less than double what they are now, in a few years.
 
The time period not to charge is only between 4:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. during the three-day weekend so there can be plenty of opportunities to charge during other times of the day. Also both electric cars and other electric vehicles like for example school buses can be used for energy storage. Thereby help to balance the grid.

pirg.org

Electric school buses can clean up our energy and transportation systems - PIRG

Electric vehicle batteries can serve as a key source of storage for renewable energy. Zero-emission school buses are the perfect application.
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There charging stations can also have there own batteries.


California have not only great opportunities to build out wind power and solar panels but also concentrated solar power with thermal storage that can produce electricity on demand. There California with it's long coast line might also have opportunities with tidal and wave power that can provide a steady output of electricity.

www.newsweek.com

Japan Hoping for Unlimited Clean Energy With Giant Ocean Turbine

Tidal power is one of the few stand-out choices available to Japan if it wants to build a renewable and domestic energy supply.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

news.sky.com

The tiny islands of Orkney lead the way on renewable energy, and generate 130% of what they need

Orkney has shown the way to an economy powered by renewable energy - with more than 650 wind turbines dotted across the landscape - but now the islanders are going further.
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Other opportunities is that hydrogen can replace fossil fuels both in transport, heating and industrial processes. There the production of hydrogen can increase then the supply of electricity is high and be used when the supply is low. There it also advancements in many types of energy storage.

renewablesnow.com

HYBRIT partners launch pilot hydrogen storage cavern in Sweden

As part of the HYBRIT project, a pilot cavern facility for the storage of fossil-free hydrogen gas has been inaugurated at Svartoberget in Lulea on the northern coast of Sweden, the project partners said on Tuesday.
renewablesnow.com renewablesnow.com

www.bbc.com

Climate change: 'Sand battery' could solve green energy's big problem

A storage device made from sand may overcome the biggest issue in the transition to renewable energy.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
*asked
 
Roadvirus said:
But California is one of the most wealthy states in America and stuff (at least that's the claim of the Liberals)! They should be able to afford a grand, state-of-the-art electrical grid that can withstand it.
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That's very MAGA thinking, because it might make your brain produce chemicals that elicit feelings of pleasure because you believe that you just magically Owned the Liberals super bigly. Assuming that was your goal, I hope your post helped you enjoy some well-earned pleasure.

However, that's silly, irrational logic; nearly every product or system we encounter in our day-to-day life is going to optimize for ~90-99% of use cases because designing anything for 100% of all operating scenarios would be ridiculous and inefficient. Now, this is common sense for most people, but based on your post, for some it appears to be a foreign concept. Or, you knew better, but decided to forget because the joy of Owning Leftist Filth was more urgent. Hard to tell which is the case here. Either way, I'm happy that you found some joy, and also happy that you appear not to have any fingerprints on any products or services used by modern society, given that nothing we see or experience is designed as you described.
 
There can be potential for electric cars that can get enough range to cover the daily commute from their own solar panels, especially in sunny places like California.

www.greencarreports.com

Aptera is tuning its 1,000-mile EV—and it can outrun some sports cars

As the Aptera three-wheeler continues development, it's showing off moves to rival sports cars as it achieves its jaw-dropping range and efficiency.
www.greencarreports.com www.greencarreports.com

www.dezeen.com

Lightyear launches "world's first production-ready" solar-powered car

Dutch startup Lightyear has unveiled its Lightyear 0 electric car that has solar panels covering its roof, bonnet and boot so that it can be charged while driving.
www.dezeen.com www.dezeen.com

insideevs.com

Sono Motors Solar EV One Step Closer To Production With New Design

We got to experience the vehicle last year in Munich when it still looked a bit cobbled together, but now it doesn’t anymore.
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Households and local business have also the opportunity to install solar panels on their homes and businesses and combine in with battery storage, so that they not only can provide electricity for themselves but also their local communities during peak demand. Thereby reducing pressure on the grid.

Another intersting opportunities is battery swaps. There those batteries can be charge during night time and other periods of low demand.

 
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