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California Senate Outlaws 'Bullet Buttons,' Other Gun Control Measures

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California Senate Outlaws 'Bullet Buttons,' Other Gun Control Measures | NBC Bay Area

Brown vetoed a deal like this before but who knows how it will go this time.

Note this section of SB 1235 - Bill Text - SB-1235 Ammunition.

[h=3]SEC. 7.[/h] Section 30000 of the Penal Code is amended to read:
[h=6]30000.[/h] (a) The Attorney General shall establish and maintain an online database to be known as the Prohibited Armed Persons File. The purpose of the file is to cross-reference persons who have ownership or possession of a firearm on or after January 1, 1996, as indicated by a record in the Consolidated Firearms Information System, and who, subsequent to the date of that ownership or possession of a firearm, fall within a class of persons who are prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm.
(b) Commencing July 1, 2019, the file shall also be used to cross-reference persons who attempt to acquire ammunition to determine if those persons fall within a class of persons who are prohibited from owning or possessing ammunition.
(c) The information contained in the Prohibited Armed Persons File shall only be available to those entities specified in, and pursuant to, subdivision (b) or (c) of Section 11105, through the California Law Enforcement Telecommunications System, for the purpose of determining if persons are armed and prohibited from possessing firearms.

You can see how, contrary to the claims of the gun banners, registration IS used as a method to effect confiscation.

Note this section of the same bill which imposes a fee on LAWFUL purchasers of ammunition

[h=6]30357.[/h] The department shall develop a procedure in which a person who is not prohibited from purchasing or possessing ammunition may be approved for a single ammunition transaction or purchase. The department shall recover the cost of processing, regulatory, and enforcement activities related to this section, section by charging the ammunition transaction or purchase applicant a fee not to exceed the fee charged for the department’s Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) process, as described in Section 28225, and not to exceed the department’s reasonable costs.

Note this section which requires the transfer of ammunition between private parties (think "Hey Bob, how about picking me up a couple of boxes of .308 and I'll pay you back") to be handled ONLY through a "vendor"

[h=6]30366.[/h] (a) When neither party in an ammunition sale is a vendor, the following shall apply:
(1) The seller shall deliver the ammunition to a vendor to process the transaction.
(2) The vendor shall then promptly and properly deliver the ammunition to the purchaser, if the sale is not prohibited, as if the ammunition were the vendor’s own merchandise.
(3) If the vendor cannot legally deliver the ammunition to the purchaser, the vendor shall forthwith return the ammunition to the seller. This return is not subject to Section 30356.
(b) The vendor may charge the purchaser an administrative fee to process the transaction, not to exceed ten dollars ($10) per transaction processed.
(c) A person selling ammunition pursuant to this section is exempt from the requirement to be licensed pursuant to Section 30345.
(d) This section does not apply to a person whose premises are outside of this state when directly selling and shipping ammunition to a law enforcement agency within this state.

This is the stuff that's being called "reasonable" gun control measures.
 

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California Senate Outlaws 'Bullet Buttons,' Other Gun Control Measures | NBC Bay Area

Brown vetoed a deal like this before but who knows how it will go this time.

Note this section of SB 1235 - Bill Text - SB-1235 Ammunition.

[h=3]SEC. 7.[/h] Section 30000 of the Penal Code is amended to read:


You can see how, contrary to the claims of the gun banners, registration IS used as a method to effect confiscation.

Note this section of the same bill which imposes a fee on LAWFUL purchasers of ammunition



Note this section which requires the transfer of ammunition between private parties (think "Hey Bob, how about picking me up a couple of boxes of .308 and I'll pay you back") to be handled ONLY through a "vendor"



This is the stuff that's being called "reasonable" gun control measures.

with McDonald, this crap is clearly unconstitutional . Sadly, lots of "conservative" federal judges tend to allow states to do all sorts of stupid things-figuring that the citizens of california-if they are so stupid as to elect morons like Jerry Brown-deserve what they get.
 
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