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California: Newsom vetoes bill giving unemployment to illegal immigrants/non-citizens

phoenix2020 said:
Newsom has always been a pro-business moderate and for us California residents we see evidence of this again and again. The mainstream conservative media loves to paint him as some hyper-liberal, left-of-Bernie bleeding heart but in reality Newsom, like every California governor of either party that we’ve had for decades, is something of a centrist. To be successful leading our state, you’ve got to be pro-business, socially compassionate but only to a limit, and have deep pro-environmental policies.
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Interesting observation
 
Roadvirus said:
That's because he's purposefully steering away from the label. He's got 2028 in mind & he'll want to look good to Moderates & Indies.
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Very possible. I have no idea how Harris will do, I'm hoping for the best.

But both sides havent produced any candidates of actual substance and character (please the right doesnt appear to even care about that anymore) in years.

IMO Haley will be a tough candidate in 2028. And she's smart and knows how to play the game. I do not want to see her in the WH but IMO she's very much a future threat.

☮️ 🇺🇸 ☮️
 
Roadvirus said:
California Gov. Gavin Newsom rejected a blueprint to give undocumented immigrants unemployment benefits on Saturday, vetoing a politically sensitive measure that conservatives seized on weeks before the presidential election.

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Roadvirus said:
Some would say he's using common sense. But i say he's doing this to appeal to Moderates in 2028 & keeping future political advertising ammo from the hardline GOP.
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Good read, Rv. I couldn't agree more. By acting like a moderate he balances all the other far left-nuttery already on his record.
 
trixare4kids said:
Good read, Rv. I couldn't agree more. By acting like a moderate he balances all the other far left-nuttery already on his record.
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Newsom is a champagne socialist. Part of an elite class of hypocrites whove run California into the ground for decades.
 
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PoS said:
Newsom is a champagne socialist. Part of an elite class of hypocrites whove run California into the ground for decades.
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Sad. That’s why my home has quadrupled in value.
 
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Sabre said:
Sorry Trix, looked interesting but could not read - paywall.
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Weird. Hope this helps. I don't pay for the LA Times and have no idea why I can read it and you can't. ​

How eight elite San Francisco families funded Gavin Newsom’s political ascent​

Gavin Newsom wasn’t born rich, but he was born connected — and those alliances have paid handsome dividends throughout his career.
A coterie of San Francisco’s wealthiest families has backed him at every step of his political rise, which in November could lead next to his election as governor of California.
San Francisco society’s “first families” — whose names grace museum galleries, charity ball invitations and hospital wards — settled on Newsom, 50, as their favored candidate two decades ago, said Willie Brown, former state Assembly speaker and former mayor of the city.
“He came from their world, and that’s why they embraced him without hesitancy and over and above everybody else,” said Brown, who is a mentor to Newsom. “They didn’t need to interview him. They knew what he stood for.”
A Times review of campaign finance records identified eight of San Francisco’s best-known families as being among Newsom’s most loyal and long-term contributors. Among those patrons are the Gettys, the Pritzkers and the Fishers, whose families made their respective fortunes in oil, hotels and fashion. They first backed him when he was a restaurateur and winery owner running for a seat on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1998, and have continued their support through the governor’s race.
They are not Newsom’s largest donors: The families in total have given about $2 million of the $61 million that donors have contributed to his campaigns and independent committees backing those bids. But they gave while he was a relative unknown, providing crucial support to a political newcomer in the years before his campaign accounts piled high with cash from labor unions, Hollywood honchos, tech billionaires and donors up and down the state.
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These donors are mostly liberal, inspired by Newsom’s history as an early supporter of progressive causes, including same-sex marriage as San Francisco mayor in 2004. But some are Republicans, including President Trump’s new ambassador to Austria, who are drawn by Newsom’s background as a small businessman.
The front-runner’s opponents have attacked him for his connections. During the primary, two of his Democratic rivals, Antonio Villaraigosa and John Chiang, painted Newsom as the beneficiary of wealth and privilege. John Cox, his GOP opponent in the November election, reiterated the theme in a new website titled “Fortunate $on.” And an independent expenditure committee supporting the Republican spent a quarter-million dollars late last month on an ad calling Newsom “a child of privilege, his path greased by family and political connections and billionaire patrons.”
Newsom, whose campaign did not respond to a request for comment on this article, has long been tied to San Francisco society.
His father, Bill, was a lifelong friend of Gordon Getty, the son of oil magnate J. Paul Getty — they attended high school together. Bill Newsom later managed the Getty family trust on behalf of Gordon, estimated by Forbes to be worth more than $2 billion in 2018. Bill Newsom was so close with the family that he helped deliver the ransom money after the 1973 kidnapping of J. Paul Getty’s grandson, John Paul Getty III.
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www.latimes.com

How eight elite San Francisco families funded Gavin Newsom's political ascent

San Francisco's wealthiest have supported Newsom for decades, spending big on his political career since his earliest days in public office.
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trixare4kids said:

Weird. Hope this helps. I don't pay for the LA Times and have no idea why I can read it and you can't. ​

How eight elite San Francisco families funded Gavin Newsom’s political ascent​


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Thank you, was an interesting read. Knowing who his masters are explains a lot how how "pretty boy" got in and keeps going.
 
trixare4kids said:
So what? Newsom has ruined the state by his non-sensical pandering to people who shouldn't even be allowed to remain in the state.
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What nonsensical pandering are you talking about?
 
Nickyjo said:
What nonsensical pandering are you talking about?
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I thought you'd be able to figure it out. The only reason Newsom is now pretending to be a moderate is because Kamala is pretending to be a moderate in order to get elected.

Both of them have a long record of wanting to give tax funded benefits to those who are in the country illegally.
 
trixare4kids said:
I thought you'd be able to figure it out. The only reason Newsom is now pretending to be a moderate is because Kamala is pretending to be a moderate in order to get elected.

Both of them have a long record of wanting to give tax funded benefits to those who are in the country illegally.
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What tax-funded benefits are you talking about?

And if you don’t like illegals, strap on a leaf blower, get to work picking your own fruit and vegetables, or make unions stronger and wages higher…
… I didn’t think so

As to moderation in order to get elected, all politicians tend to do that, staking out left-right positions to get nominated, and moving towards the center in general elections.
 
Nickyjo said:
What tax-funded benefits are you talking about?
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Figure it out.
Nickyjo said:
And if you don’t like illegals, strap on a leaf blower, get to work picking your own fruit and vegetables, or make unions stronger and wages higher…
… I didn’t think so
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Do you wake up nasty like this everyday?
Nickyjo said:
As to moderation in order to get elected, all politicians tend to do that, staking out left-right positions to get nominated, and moving towards the center in general elections.
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It doesn't change the fact that both Kamala and Newsom are on record for wanting to give illegal immigrants tax funded benefits, healthcare.
 
trixare4kids said:
Figure it out.

Do you wake up nasty like this everyday?

It doesn't change the fact that both Kamala and Newsom are on record for wanting to give illegal immigrants tax funded benefits, healthcare.
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You have to be more specific than that in pushing your argument. I assume that illegals will be treated at emergency rooms and can sign up for the ACA, cause I assume they don’t have to show papers to do so. And tho I would be willing to pay more for products if workers were paid better, i acknowledge that you and I benefit from lower food prices, lower construction costs, and perhaps even from lower motel room prices thanks to the work of illegals. The US and the colonies before 1776 have been addicted to cheap labor since 1619, whether it was slaves, criminal labor, braceros, or legal and illegal immigrants. Conservative republicans have the best of both worlds politically: they get to trash immigrants while their donors hire them.
 
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