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California is Proof of Why Democrat Threats are Empty and Ignored for Any Reform Possible

Gimmesometruth said:
Hey bro, move to somewhere in Clackamas County, lots of Bundy's over there.
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Trust me. I have though about it. I am not interested in Bundy's however, If that's your thing, OK. I am far enough from the center of Portlandi, I'm good.Stone's throw away from Gresham.
 
Oregon is my home, so it doesn't matter where I go for state elections.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Trumpsters love to pick on California.. But the fact is they have the 5th largest economy in the world... They must be doing something right...
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Cuba was once wealthy too:

Historically, Cuba was one of the most prosperous Latin American countries.[24] At the time of the Cuban Revolution of 1953–1959, during the military dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, Cuba's GDP per capita was ranked 7th of 47 Latin American economies.[25] Its income distribution compared favorably with that of other Latin American countries.
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California's economy exists in spite of Democrats, not because of them. If you disagree, name some pro-economic growth Democratic policies.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I have stated from the start that subsidizing solar for home owners cannot be done indefinitely. Only people lacking a sense of reality do not understand this fact.
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So the contract term is now the same as indefinitely?
 
trumptman said:
So the contract term is now the same as indefinitely?
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I do not know what the contracted terms are, but I know new contracts are not the same as those who get on board first.

The idea that everyone who buys solar can enjoy this net metering is not possible. The small percentage with the original contracts, might be indefinite. As I said, new contracts are not the same as older ones.
 
I don't know if this applies to all electrical utilities if there are more than one in California, but this says the legacy net metering is 9 years.
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Nine-year legacy period: The original customer who causes a generation facility to be interconnected to the grid under the NBT is guaranteed the use of the NBT tariff for nine years. Customer-generators who move to the NBT from a previous NEM tariff are not eligible for the NBT legacy period. ​

Net Energy Metering and Net Billing

www.cpuc.ca.gov www.cpuc.ca.gov
 
This one has 20 years:
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On April 15, 2023, NEM 2.0 closed to new customers and a new Solar Billing Plan went into effect. NEM accounts will continue to bill under the current NEM program until the 20-year period expires, or until the account loses eligibility to remain on the NEM program, whichever is earlier. ​

Net Energy Metering

www.sce.com www.sce.com
 
Lord of Planar said:
I do not know what the contracted terms are, but I know new contracts are not the same as those who get on board first.
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So you didn't read the OP where it is seeking the invalidate the prior contracts?

Lord of Planar said:
The idea that everyone who buys solar can enjoy this net metering is not possible. The small percentage with the original contracts, might be indefinite. As I said, new contracts are not the same as older ones.
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Go read the OP.
 
trumptman said:
So you didn't read the OP where it is seeking the invalidate the prior contracts?
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Are they actual contracts? I believe they can change the terms when they want.

Maybe you can quote the relevant part I missed.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Are they actual contracts? I believe they can change the terms when they want.

Maybe you can quote the relevant part I missed.
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It is literally the first paragraph.

A new proposal in the California legislature, AB 942, seeks to break nearly two million rooftop solar net metering contracts and shift existing customers onto a rate structure that would decrease credits on their electricity bills by roughly 80%. If passed, the proposal would increase a typical solar customer’s bill by $63 per month.

That is called proof positive you didn't read the article linked.
 
trumptman said:
That is called proof positive you didn't read the article linked.
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Nope. I am not a fool that believes everything some journalist claims. Real journalism is dead. The media constantly lies. I consider anyone who believes what an article claims as real without verifyting the facts, a total fool.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Nope. I am not a fool that believes everything some journalist claims. Real journalism is dead. The media constantly lies. I consider anyone who believes what an article claims as real without verifyting the facts, a total fool.
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So you want to claim it wasn't stated but when shown proof it was stated then say you don't believe it anyway.

You're a fun one.
 
trumptman said:
So you want to claim it wasn't stated but when shown proof it was stated then say you don't believe it anyway.

You're a fun one.
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How can you butcher my posting that badly?
 
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