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That was a recent discussion in the forum about a restaurant refusing to serve police officers. This was in connexion with blacks being shot by police.
I must have missed something..... What bakers have had their businesses destroyed and constitutional liberties trampled?It is, when it 1) destroys the business and the family's livelihood and 2) shows a systematic breech in the protection afforded minorities by the Constitution. Personally, I think the latter is worse.
How stupid do you have to be to work at a donut place and refuse to sell to cops? :lamo
How stupid do you have to be to work at a donut place and refuse to sell to cops? :lamo
Why can't they just spit in their food like any decent fast food worker would do? I'm just kidding..... Don't get all worked up!
I must have missed something..... What bakers have had their businesses destroyed and constitutional liberties trampled?
If you need to find a county sheriff in my area at night, come to kwik trip. There's usually a half dozen of them hanging out by the donut case.Never rob a bank within 3 miles of the counties best donuts or donut shop. You are destined to fail.
Why is it that the left gets up in arms if businesses wish to refuse service to certain customers but then we get incidences where lefties want to refuse service to police officers?
How stupid do you have to be to work at a donut place and refuse to sell to cops? :lamo
I must have missed something..... What bakers have had their businesses destroyed and constitutional liberties trampled?
1.) There was the bakers in Oregon they had to shut their business down. the city fined them out of business basically for expressing
what is a protect right garenteed by the constitution and their refusal to be part of an event that they didn't believe in.
2.)not sure about the baker in CO. I think he has stopped selling wedding cakes though.
3.) in all accounts the courts ignored their constitutional rights as the first amendment guarantee's and basically said
that other peoples rights trump theirs which is technically unconstitutional.
Why is it that the left gets up in arms if businesses wish to refuse service to certain customers but then we get incidences where lefties want to refuse service to police officers?
SighThere was the bakers in Oregon they had to shut their business down.
Sigh
The bakery in Oregon discriminated against a customer. Rather than accept the ruling, they chose to fight it to the bitter end and beyond, and chose to stop operating. They have almost certainly paid for their fines and legal fees with donations.
The Colorado shop is (afaik) still in operation, and appealing multiple rulings against it.
The Constitution does not grant public accommodations the right to violate a customer's civil rights. Including the civil rights of police officers.
I assume you will ignore all the other threads which have hashed out these issues ad infinitum and persist with your factually incorrect claims anyway. Carry on, then....
There was the bakers in Oregon they had to shut their business down. the city fined them out of business basically for expressing
what is a protect right garenteed by the constitution and their refusal to be part of an event that they didn't believe in.
not sure about the baker in CO. I think he has stopped selling wedding cakes though.
in all accounts the courts ignored their constitutional rights as the first amendment guarantee's and basically said
that other peoples rights trump theirs which is technically unconstitutional.
Yeah, not so much. They did not have their business shut down, they CHOSE to close it because they had made so much money, more than half a million dollars, through crowdfunding from terminally delusional theists, that they no longer had to work. There is nowhere in the Constitution, nowhere, that says you get to ignore any law you want because you have a religion.
He stopped selling cakes because he's a religious bigot and doesn't want to be forced to follow the law. Screw him. Oh, and he had abbb crowdfunding campaign going too.
Sorry, there is no religious right to ignore the law. The courts have overwhelmingly ruled against these people in every single case in which it has come up.
Try again.
What it says is that congress (which includes the state) all not infringe on religious or the free exercise thereof.
forcing bakers who do not believe in gay marriage to celebrate something that violate their religious beliefs is unconstitutional.
whether you like it or not. this is backed up by the freedom for reformation act.
1.)In which they were discriminated against as well. religious discrimination is discrimination did you not realize this?
2.)Which they should. they have rights as well ignoring their rights is unconstitutional.
3.)not wanting to participate in an event is not discrimination as another judge had said when a gay baker refused to make
a cake for a religious person. in fact the judge ruled for that baker in saying that the baker did not have to support the message.
4.)however that was thrown out by other judges when it came to Christian bakers being sued. which means there is a conflict in the law
and equal protection does not apply.
5.)yes please carry on.
The owners were not discriminated on the basis of religion. The religion of the bakery owners had nothing to do with any of the state or court rulings.In which they were discriminated against as well. religious discrimination is discrimination did you not realize this?
Civil rights laws have repeatedly been challenged, and found to be constitutionally valid.Which they should. they have rights as well ignoring their rights is unconstitutional.
I happen to disagree with that particular ruling, and said so on this board at the time. I found it to be an inconsistent ruling.not wanting to participate in an event is not discrimination as another judge had said when a gay baker refused to make a cake for a religious person. in fact the judge ruled for that baker in saying that the baker did not have to support the message.
1.)What it says is that congress (which includes the state) all not infringe on religious or the free exercise thereof.
forcing bakers who do not believe in gay marriage to celebrate something that violate their religious beliefs is unconstitutional.
whether you like it or not. this is backed up by the freedom for reformation act.
2.)yes we know these people that sue Christians for what they believe are religious bigots you don't have to tell us.
3.)because courts are not supporting constitutional rights of people should say there is a huge issue with the court system more so when they give
an excuse to a gay baker that was sued that they didn't have to make the cake because it was there right to not support a religious message.
4.) what happened to equal protection under the law?
Not to be rude, but it is usually incumbent upon the OP (person who creates the Opening Post and starts the thread) to provide the source material so that others know what the **** he/she is talking about. Since that was too much trouble for you, trying to Google up what the **** you were talking about was too much trouble for me.
"Lefties" WANT to refuse service to cops?
Weird can you show where thats happening that makes it a leftie thing
also I can remember anybody really up in arms for "refusing service" that would make it a left right or middle thing? LOL
maybe start your thread with some examples and facts and it will be more successful and not fail.
Again, can you show any links or sources to those reports? I'm not denying they may have happened, but forgive me for wanting more than an off-the-cuff say-so by forum posters.
Ohio restaurant serves glass in police officer's sandwich | Columbus Ledger-EnquirerThe police officer bit into a sandwich Monday and encountered a crunching sound and a “grisly texture.”
When he looked inside the sandwich, he saw shards of glass. Then he discovered his mouth was bleeding.
I didn't post any links because it is common knowledge and has made the news a lot. I thought most people here kept up with the news. Don't you have a search engine? If it had happened only one time I would have posted a link but in reality, if it had only happened one time I would have never started this thread. Not to be rude, but the info is easily found if you do a simple search.
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