Building 7 . . .

[Quag]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

So where as I'm saying that "THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL."

You are saying "THERE IS EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL."??

Great, then show us?? lol

You claimed you provided evidence, you have provided no evidence
YOU LIED!!!!

 

[gamolon]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

He is ignoring it.

I don't think so. I'm confident he'll have input.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

I don't think so. I'm confident he'll have input.

It's going nowhere at the moment. I wonder why?

 

[beefheart]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

Post it then.

They are entitled to believe whatever the hell it is they want to believe.

Already did post it, you have to make the effort to find it.

Do you think the earth is flat?

 

[camlok]

You are proof of this adage

You lie, quag, because Thoreau offers evidence and informed opinion. What aren't you pointing this at zyzygy, beefheart, yourself, as you are the guys who offer zippo.

 

[camlok]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

The part where you claimed to have proivided evidence is the lie

I have said the same thing to you for months on end, but with correct spelling.

 

[beefheart]

You lie, quag, because Thoreau offers evidence and informed opinion. What aren't you pointing this at zyzygy, beefheart, yourself, as you are the guys who offer zippo.

Hey...I have a conspiracy. Yoko Ono was behind 9/11 because she was pissed off. I have all kinds of theories, but rather than provide proof, you have to disprove it. And anything you offer to disprove it will be rejected by me because I determined that all your data is just part of a giant Camlok conspiracy!

See what it is like when you deal with the mind of a CT?

(oh, and Thoreau just offers the same debunked paranoid crap that you do, so it is laughed at by the normal world)

 

[camlok]

See what it is like when you deal with the mind of a CT?

I know full well what it is like to deal with the mind of a CT, in fact there are a number of you; yourself, zyzygy, mike, nota bene, quag, ... . Gamolon seems to have abandoned y'all for an attempt at sanity but you folks just keep on fantasizing.

Not a one of you has provided any evidence for your USGOCT. You have even had copious [look it up] evidence provided to y'all to illustrate that the USOCT is an impossible fable and this crap of yours above is you science denying anti-truthers' only response.

 

[beefheart]

I know full well what it is like to deal with the mind of a CT, in fact there are a number of you; yourself, zyzygy, mike, nota bene, quag, ... . Gamolon seems to have abandoned y'all for an attempt at sanity but you folks just keep on fantasizing.

Not a one of you has provided any evidence for your USGOCT. You have even had copious [look it up] evidence provided to y'all to illustrate that the USOCT is an impossible fable and this crap of yours above is you science denying anti-truthers' only response.

So, you have NO evidence to disprove that Yoko Ono was behind 9/11?

You are just believing your official government conspiracy theory.

Once again, you offer NO proof that my conspiracy theory is wrong.

 

[mike2810]

I know full well what it is like to deal with the mind of a CT, in fact there are a number of you; yourself, zyzygy, mike, nota bene, quag, ... . Gamolon seems to have abandoned y'all for an attempt at sanity but you folks just keep on fantasizing.

Not a one of you has provided any evidence for your USGOCT. You have even had copious [look it up] evidence provided to y'all to illustrate that the USOCT is an impossible fable and this crap of yours above is you science denying anti-truthers' only response.

I have not abandon anything, camlock. I just prefer not to respond to many of your posts. It is interesting when you reveal some of your sources.
What evidence would you accept? You keep saying nothing has been provided. You just reject what is posted.


https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2008/11/nist-releases-final-wtc-7-investigation-report
http://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861611




Accurate Collapse History of WTC7 - World Trade Center Evidence-Based Research

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - World Trade Center 7, Building 7


As the saying goes, you can't fix stupid. Ignorance can be corrected through education, if the person wants to learn. Seems you don't want to learn.

Just keep believing what you want. Gage, et. al. like that you support them. It is people like you that keep them in business.

 

[beefheart]

You lie, quag, because Thoreau offers evidence and informed opinion. What aren't you pointing this at zyzygy, beefheart, yourself, as you are the guys who offer zippo.

You just lied right there.

 

[zyzygy]

You just lied right there.

It's almost like he doesn't read the links in our posts.

 

[beefheart]

It's almost like he doesn't read the links in our posts.

He has yet to disprove the Yoko Ono connection...

 

[stundie]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

The part where you claimed to have proivided evidence is the lie

Please be specific....again...about the quote where I have claimed to provided evidence.

It doesn't exist, you have made it up.

Its very clear that you cannot accept that "THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL." So you call me a liar or claim that I am being dishonest. I can't provide evidence that THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL because if there is no evidence, it doesn't exist.

So if you really think I am lying or being dishonest, provide the....EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL....that you think makes your case.

 

[stundie]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

Already did post it, you have to make the effort to find it.

Do you think the earth is flat?

No, but I think that pantomime debunkers don't understand that even if I did believe the earth was flat, that it is about as relevant as to whether I wear jeans or not. The questions surrounding 9/11 exist whether I believe the moon is a piece of cheese.

Clearly you are not here to discuss WTC 7 which is what this thread is about, and clearly you believe very strongly that it was some OCT method, so are you here to discuss what you believe and provide any supporting evidence? Or do you come here to mock those who you think are idiotic for holding a different set of beliefs?

If it's the latter, I'll happily show you otherwise.

 

[beefheart]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

No, but I think that pantomime debunkers don't understand that even if I did believe the earth was flat, that it is about as relevant as to whether I wear jeans or not. The questions surrounding 9/11 exist whether I believe the moon is a piece of cheese.

Clearly you are not here to discuss WTC 7 which is what this thread is about, and clearly you believe very strongly that it was some OCT method, so are you here to discuss what you believe and provide any supporting evidence? Or do you come here to mock those who you think are idiotic for holding a different set of beliefs?

If it's the latter, I'll happily show you otherwise.

No, you are a pantomime debunker, because you refused to disprove my Yoko Ono conspiracy because you are too busy buying the official CT story. You are part of the brainwashed sheeple.

You clearly don't wish to discuss the real story, why is that?

 

[stundie]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

No, you are a pantomime debunker, because you refused to disprove my Yoko Ono conspiracy because you are too busy buying the official CT story. You are part of the brainwashed sheeple.

You clearly don't wish to discuss the real story, why is that?

You haven't proven a conspiracy, let alone a Yoko Ono one.

All you have done, is give us lots of your opinions on twoofers which nobody cares about and you've asked me a strange question about whether I think the earth is flat or not.

Oh and you had a little cry to the moderators about the Walter Mitty comment because you are clearly very sensitive.

 

[Quag]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

Please be specific....again...about the quote where I have claimed to provided evidence.

It doesn't exist, you have made it up.

Its very clear that you cannot accept that "THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL." So you call me a liar or claim that I am being dishonest. I can't provide evidence that THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL because if there is no evidence, it doesn't exist.

You know exactly where you lied.

 

[Quag]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

No, you are a pantomime debunker, because you refused to disprove my Yoko Ono conspiracy because you are too busy buying the official CT story. You are part of the brainwashed sheeple.

You clearly don't wish to discuss the real story, why is that?

Because he has nothing to defend his BS with.

 

[Quag]

It's almost like he doesn't read the links in our posts.

Truthers only read stuff that comes from CT sites everything else is fake news

 

[camlok]

I have not abandon anything, camlock. I just prefer not to respond to many of your posts. It is interesting when you reveal some of your sources.
What evidence would you accept? You keep saying nothing has been provided. You just reject what is posted.

Of course I reject it, as does thousands of scientists, as did Richard Feynman, as does Professor Leroy Hulsey. The NIST video disproves itself within the first minute. "NIST produced a fraudulent report, the information for which they refuse to reveal.

The goofy video of their "incredible" computer simulation does not in ANY WAY ILLUSTRATE REALITY, yet you science deniers keep on supporting an impossible event. NIST lied about all manner of things in their study,

1. saying the floors were noncomposite,

2. they lied about shear studs,

3. they lied about molten/vaporized steel,

4. they lied about web stiffeners, saying they were absent.

5. they lied about bombs/explosions.


As the saying goes, you can't fix stupid. Ignorance can be corrected through education, if the person wants to learn. Seems you don't want to learn.

You and your cohorts ought not to be pointing fingers. You lot can hardly spell, your syntax is atrocious, you divert and distract with wild abandon, even here in this post of yours.

Just keep believing what you want. Gage, et. al. like that you support them. It is people like you that keep them in business.

Another bald faced lie from you, mike. They are a non-profit. Compare that to Michael Shermer and your other ALWAYS UNNAMED "sources".

Why do you dishonest people always pointedly attack Richard Gage? He is an architect, he hasn't been guilty of fraud, he hasn't lied about his credentials, like your Michael Shermer, all your other unnamed "sources".

 

[camlok]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

Quote Originally Posted by stundie View Post
Please be specific....again...about the quote where I have claimed to provided evidence.

It doesn't exist, you have made it up.

Its very clear that you cannot accept that "THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL." So you call me a liar or claim that I am being dishonest. I can't provide evidence that THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL because if there is no evidence, it doesn't exist.
======

You know exactly where you lied.

This is a favorite trick of yours and also of your cohorts, Quag.

Show us the evidence for THE EFFECTED HEAT WEAKENED STEEL. Remember you have proven NIST liars and the lying US government on your side. That should give you a great deal of confidence.

 

[camlok]

Re: High School Teacher BUTCHERS NIST WTC 7 Report

For those interested in the truth, listen to Lionel Nation, a lawyer, prosecutor, who describes his moment when he came to disbelieve the USGOCT. It is focused on Flight 93.

9/11 Awakening: My Personal Moment of Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLI4DxydG5A

He points up, clearly, how there are people, actually, all of us, who were taken in by the phantasmagorical fable of the United States government. What is so crazy is that even though we all know what compulsive, serial liars they are, the power of the media, for a good long time, swung the meter to the USOCT side.

Day one, 9-11, there was so much truth being spoken from the media, firefighters, police, eyewitnesses, along with some very evident bald faced lying. Day two, the truth went out the window and the fix was set.

 

[Thoreau72]

Wow, Lionel tells it like it is. I had not heard of him before, but he is a fascinating man.

 

[Quag]

Wow, Lionel tells it like it is. I had not heard of him before, but he is a fascinating man.

We know you lie all the time like every other truther
Still waiting for you to explain your ground effect comments.......