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He doesn't have to. They've got him on film leaving the base and returning to the base. They've got his weapon. They've got expended rounds from the scene of the massacre. They've got his confession. All his defense team has left is claiming he was mentally insane during the incident. That's not going to go over well in a courts martial. Military folk tend to frown on "the devil made me do it" defense.The guy is already claiming he can't remember the killings.
He doesn't have to. They've got him on film leaving the base and returning to the base. They've got his weapon. They've got expended rounds from the scene of the massacre. They've got his confession. All his defense team has left is claiming he was mentally insane during the incident. That's not going to go over well in a courts marshal. Military folk tend to frown on "the devil made me do it" defense.
Possibly a crime in which there is tangible evidence that he did it?
I thought we were working on the assumption that he was convicted 'beyond reasonable doubt'. So I repeat, what would he have had to have done to receive the maximum sentence?
Kill Americans... :shrug:
Absolute nonsense. He is responsible. He pulled the trigger. He killed babies and women. He apparently set some of them on fire. This constant litany of excuses and 'blame the other guy/society/a poor home life/whoever sent him there is just crap.
He did make a choice, but I have the same opinion with this case that I do with most cases of extreme violence including that of our enemies. My opinion is that choice alone does not explain such violent actions. Yes, he made a choice to kill all of those innocent people. However, every choice has causes. His deployments, what he saw on those deployments, his brain surgery and any underlying mental health problems might have and likely did contribute to this. Whether you like it or not, choices are impacted, and perhaps determined, by things outside of our control.Absolute nonsense. He is responsible. He pulled the trigger. He killed babies and women. He apparently set some of them on fire. This constant litany of excuses and 'blame the other guy/society/a poor home life/whoever sent him there is just crap.
I'm not rationalizing his actions. In fact, I did the exact opposite so you maybe you can stop being reactionary and actually read what I said.I don't care why he made the choice. He made it. He's responsible. To rationalize his actions based on deployments or what he saw or anything else is an insult to every soldier who's gone through what he went through and probably worse and didn't resort to baby-killing as his stress reliever.
And as for the 'evil capitalistic society' using him to do its dirty work, just more crap and BS. And another excuse for a little America bashing.
Gosh, and to think we fought World War II with guys only being deployed once. Of course it lasted until the end of the war.
No more excuses. No more 'blame somebody/something else.
The fact that you won't counter anything I said means that you can't do it. I haven't offered any excuses. In fact, I said very clearly that my arguments should not be used to make excuses. It's a shame you have to resort to such dishonesty to make a point.Gosh, and to think we fought World War II with guys only being deployed once. Of course it lasted until the end of the war.
No more excuses. No more 'blame somebody/something else.
Course in WWII everyone went, few families didn't have at least one male overseas. There was a strong sense of we are all in this together. Survivors of entire units came home to parades and sweet loving. The enlistment was duration plus 6 months. The war was highly censored so any soldiers raping or murdering civilians, POWs, or each other tended to be overlooked. Some were jailed for soldier on soldier but it was rare for anything else, especially in the Pacific.
Now service is a life choice like some civilian job. You enlist on your own and come out on your own. Most everyone you know found something else to do rather than 'defend freedom' in yet another armpit of this planet. Once the shooting starts the enlistments drop dramatically. Given huge re-enlistment bonuses some stay on and others go the merc route as war has become a corporate venture.
Not making any excuses, the maximum effective range of an excuse is zero meters, but let's not gloss over the past wars trying to make something more out of this one.
That was then and this is now. Men crack, ALL men do, just at what point is the question. We had a saying, "Pressure makes diamonds, or a squirt of oil if the lump of coal has a flaw in it"
Sometimes you get a diamond and sometimes a squirt...
How many of you judge and jury types have served America in a combat situation? How many have experienced mental anquish? How many of you have been next to a fellow human being to witness his or head blown off? How many of you have prayed to God for one more day of life so you can get back to your loved ones? How many of you expressed outrage at the TEN YEAR WAR before this event?
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