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Broder: Enough Afghan Debate

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Broder is an opinion journalist, but when the Dean of Washington journalism opines that the president is DITHERING in Afghanistan, it's big news.

A few salient points not doled out by the dean:

1. Obama's indecision telegraphs to our allies, in NATO and Afghanistan, that his commitment to victory is reluctant, lukewarm, at best.

2. The reason Obama is permanently morassed in the mountains on the moon is because of the emphasis he placed on this "right war" in his crusade-like campaign.

3. He needed at the time to convince the electorate he was not your traditional anti-military, blame-America-first democrat.

4. Obama's sudden discovery of the corruption encapsuling Karzai paints our president as a dupe.

5. The dispute between principals in the adminstration is all too disturbingly public.

6. Even Defense Secretary Gates expressed OPENLY---Obama can't afford to "sit on his hands."

7. Broder is wrong on one all-important particular, however---not only must the president decide now, he must choose CORRECTLY.

8. If Obama can't handle it, he shouldn't have run.


washingtonpost.com


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He keeps looking up at that Nobel Peace Prize, and it won't tell him what to do.
 
The whole question is simply answered with the fact that he has shown that he is in way over his head. Having no executive management experience is a recipe for disaster and on the job training is going to lead to ruin.

Everything he has done so far except for most of it pushing us toward Socialism/Maxism has failed to accomplish the stated objectives. But then that's what double speak is all about, language constructed to disguise or distort its actual meaning.

There always comes a time when a fraud or amateur has to face a challenge they can't BS their way past. Obama may have come to that point.
 
The floundering about wartime budget concerns is not good for troop morale or our image in the ME. Either we're there to win, or we're half-assed. Right now it appears half-assed. I say, **** or get off the pot; stay to win, or pull out now.
 
The floundering about wartime budget concerns is not good for troop morale or our image in the ME. Either we're there to win, or we're half-assed. Right now it appears half-assed. I say, **** or get off the pot; stay to win, or pull out now.

Leaving Afghanistan would be a big mistake. However, keeping our fine troops there under the direction of this abortion of a president doesn't seem right either.
 
2. The reason Obama is permanently morassed in the mountains on the moon is because of the emphasis he placed on this "right war" in his crusade-like campaign.

What was the reason Bush was "permanently morassed" in Afghanistan?
 
who's bush?

oh, yeah, i remember...

LOL!

there are at least 3 ways to look at this story, 2 of em wrong

to weigh the OP as either in support of your view or negation of it is, well...

who cares about what any ONE of us thinks

to deliberate whether or not we should be in moon mountains, whether or not to increase our presence, etc, is similarly unproductive, as almost every person's (except the president's) opinions are pretty hard set

the most mature method of measuring broder's piece, therefore, is THE POLITICS

that is, when a man like broder says dithering...

wow, that's really something

it must really be bad
 
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Obama's indecision telegraphs to our allies, in NATO and Afghanistan, that his commitment to victory is reluctant, lukewarm, at best.
Define victory in Afghanistan.

2. The reason Obama is permanently morassed in the mountains on the moon is because of the emphasis he placed on this "right war" in his crusade-like campaign.
Don't confuse morassed with recoginzing that war is serious business.

He needed at the time to convince the electorate he was not your traditional anti-military, blame-America-first democrat.
Democrats have never been anti-military.
 
The military loves President Obama, bro.

But Obama doesn't love the military... well, if dead soldiers provide a good photo op he loves them, but other than that, he doesn't.


bro.
 
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What is your idea of a win in Afghanistan?

why do you care what i think?

why don't you seem to care so much what obama thinks?

concerning your question, that is
 
The military loves President Obama, bro.

Where did you get this idea from. Are you in the millitary or do you talk to a lot of military members. From where I am at the military has many diferent vewies but the majority of folks I work with and around feel something other than love for him.
 
such a hurry he's in when it comes to health care

(well, not anymore)

1/6 of the nation's economy must be radically altered on the fly, in the dark, totally improvised

but when it comes to the region described by his hand picked field commander as "urgent..."

his heart's just not in it

at least not in the same way
 
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