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Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]


By what statute are churches required to married before the SCOTUS ruling today? It certainly isn't covered by the CRA of 1964.
 
Correct, but the regulation of that right was left to the states, and the states alone.

Tim-

But not the denial of it was not left to the states. They were forbidden that.

Also, noticed your post on your question of polygamy. I'm pretty sure that this ruling didn't affect that. But I honestly think that it should. After all, it is still a marriage between two consenting adults.
 
Not trying to scare only notify.

So you are notifying me of what some alleged non-corporeal entity from a supposed different universe likes? A being that has never been proven to exist in this reality. Sounds like you two are buddy-buddy. And I am supposed to care about what some fictional being likes why? Am I supposed to care what Cthuhlu and the Tooth Fairy likes also?
 
BULL DOOKY y'all keep asking for things you don't deserve the the activist SCOTUS keep giving them to you.

Freedom from slavery, freedom to vote, freedom to not be forced against one's will to be living in an institution, freedom to have an education, freedom to be allowed to own property, freedom to marry.

Things we don't deserve.
 
Correct, but the regulation of that right was left to the states, and the states alone.

Tim-

Wrong. The power of states to forbid marriage to certain people has been limited by the constitution for many many years. It was never "left to the states, and the states alone"
 

I, for one, have indicated my religious and legal opinion on the subject. The religious aspect trumps man's law though.
 
Freedom from slavery, freedom to vote, freedom to not be forced against one's will to be living in an institution, freedom to have an education, freedom to be allowed to own property, freedom to marry.

Things we don't deserve.

Right to kill the unborn ring a bell?
 
Right to kill the unborn ring a bell?

Or you could own up to your hatred of your fellow man and your embrace of evil.
 

I'm starting to think that the majority of people who are opposed to everyone else having the same things they do are young Midwestern/Southern protestant men between the ages of 25-65 and with an income above the $45K mark but bellow $100K. There are exceptions of course. The black community, for all of its support of Democrats on different issues, has quite a sizeable population of congregations that have shown some opposition to gay marriage. However, they're nowhere near as vocal as the other group I've mentioned. To believe that our rights and benefits should be left up to these people is absolute insanity and has never been practiced in the history of the US. Ever. Even in the dark ages of the 1800s, people were bringing court cases against established traditions like the disenfranchisement of poor whites and blacks.
 

Do you not believe in good and evil?
 
Also, noticed your post on your question of polygamy. I'm pretty sure that this ruling didn't affect that. But I honestly think that it should. After all, it is still a marriage between two consenting adults.

Well...more than two adults, hence the term polygamy. Heh.

But the primary issue that someone challenging a law preventing polygamy is that they have to overcome the State's legitimate interest of preventing fraud and folks being able to claim the tax benefits without any of the associated societal benefits.
 

You are correct as far as the college goes. But that isn't a church so :shrug:. As for pastors being sued for not performing SSM. Guess what? Pastors in churches have always been able to deny performing a marriage. Or to be more specific, pastors dedicated to specific religious marriages have been able to deny performing a marriage. I know this because my mother in law's pastor refused to perform my wife and I's marriage on the grounds that we 1: were not Christian and 2: We did not attend their church. This ability will not change.

But if it somehow does end up being as you imagine then I will fight just as strongly for religious freedom as I did for SSM.
 
I, for one, have indicated my religious and legal opinion on the subject. The religious aspect trumps man's law though.

Lmao, yeah, welcome to America, 21st century America, religion doesn't trump our laws. Get use to it.
 
Masha Gessen:

I agree that we should have the right to marry, but I also think equally that it is a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist. . . Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there, because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie. The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should change, and again, I don’t think it should exist.

I sometimes think that gay marriage advocates are acting in bad faith.
 
I, for one, have indicated my religious and legal opinion on the subject. The religious aspect trumps man's law though.

That would actually make sense if we lived in a THEOCRACY. But we don't. So your religious beliefs have no bearing.
 
Or you could own up to your hatred of your fellow man and your embrace of evil.

If that were true I damn sure would. Not much for mincing words.

Now back to the abortion question....
 

We are in an age where any decision can be justified broadly. I'm not gay and none of my family (that I know of) is gay or wants to have a gay marriage so this affects me personally not at all. I'm however glad that people can gain benefits, visiting rights in hospitals, etc....
 
That would actually make sense if we lived in a THEOCRACY. But we don't. So your religious beliefs have no bearing.

You happy ass secular feelings and emotions do nothing for me.
 


To your first point, read what you wrote, Kal. The denial of it to anything other than one man and one woman is regulating it, until now of course.

To your second point, If you read the decision, there is no way this majority could refuse a polygamy challenge based entirely on the language the majority used to justify this decision. It's a foregone conclusion actually.


Tim-
 
Freedom from slavery, freedom to vote, freedom to not be forced against one's will to be living in an institution, freedom to have an education, freedom to be allowed to own property, freedom to marry.

Things we don't deserve.

the problem with that argument is that the slave's KNEW they were slaves and people who couldn't vote KNEW they couldn't vote. a gay man who died in 1990 did was never DENIED marriage because he didn't KNOW he was being denied it. this....this....thing....issue of being denied "rights" he didn't even know he was being denied until the lefte decided to MAKE IT a right they were being denied.

i know, it makes absolutely NO SENSE to me either. why try to understand it. I'm just going to smile and nod like I know what's going on. enjoy your victory.
 
Do you not believe in good and evil?

I believe YOU or your RELIGIOUS BELIEFS don't get dictate to me what good and evil is. Sorry to disappoint you
 
Wrong. The power of states to forbid marriage to certain people has been limited by the constitution for many many years. It was never "left to the states, and the states alone"

What people that would otherwise have any distinguishing feature that are not man and woman? Can you be specific?


Tim-
 
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