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Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

And don't forget Pollard
Oh, Pollard has gone full ****ing Ziotard - you can watch him online now - doling out policy advice as a respected bearded elder among them

He always like to show off his US military/intel knowledge



Yes, I do.

It was a sad day for the Navy.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Then go watch your good buddy Jonathan Pollard above.
 
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The Pollard Affair is enraging. Not only did the traitor and scumbag Jonathan Pollard steal thousands of top-secret classified documents in exchange for money and jewels, but the Israelis later handed over many of those documents to the Soviets in exchange for allowing Soviet Jews to emigrate to Israel, and that may well have led to the deaths of American agents behind the Iron Curtain. And yet Israel has lionized Pollard as a national hero and even tried to pressure American presidents to release him. I’m surprised Obama was the one who finally relented. I would pegged George W. Bush as the easy mark for this, but to his credit, Bush declined to do it. (Clinton was going to do it but was prevented from doing so after current and former secretaries of state and defense voiced their objection.)

Mark
In December 2001 Fox News and Carl Cameron announced a 4 part series showing

1- that Israel had advanced knowledge of 09/11 but refused to share the Intel
2- Israelites were dancing and celebrating the fact that we were hit
3- Secretary of STate Colin Powell forced Fox News to censor suppressed the story



https://archive.org/details/israeli-spying-in-united-states.
 
Balls. If they could do that, they'd have already done it.
And we’ve been hearing it for ten years now. Apparently they’re always just days, weeks, a couple of months away, which is why we need sanctions now, threats now, attacks right now!

Perpetual state of fear, to keep the powerful in power.
 
Absolutely shameful.

America First is a KKK slogan.

You should not be using it.

Then go use the Israel First slogan instead -- like your heroic navy buddy Jonathan Pollard, whom you can watch in the video above

Also be sure to read the comments under his video, from some of his many adoring "American" fans
 
Then go use the Israel First slogan instead -- like your heroic navy buddy Jonathan Pollard, whom you can watch in the video above

Also be sure to read the comments under his video, from some of his many adoring "American" fans
Stop baiting and keep the hate to yourself.
 
Stop baiting and keep the hate to yourself.

Hate - for who - Pollard? I'm sorry you see him as a victim of "hate".
Why do you see him that way? Is his behavior so exemplary in your view?
Did he do right by the Navy, and got a raw deal from them?
I'm just trying to better understand your political views.
 
Ruh roh. Here comes the nukes...

Oh well... Anyone ever think the world would be a much better place if the Middle East was gotten rid of anyway?

I mean, they're sort of suiciding themselves right now anyway.
 
Hate - for who - Pollard? I'm sorry you see him as a victim of "hate".
Why do you see him that way? Is his behavior so exemplary in your view?
I do not condone what he did.

This thread is not about him.
 
Prior to 1966 - ONLY Jews in Israel were called "Palestinian."
HUH?
WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That bold face lie tells me that the ASS-k-NAZI Regime is really desperate

According to historical documents retrieved from Yale Univerisity , in 1939 the UK told you people - THAT PALESTINE BELONGED TO PALESTINIANS ARABS



In 1939 FDR told you people that he WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE THE ASS-k-NAZI ENTITY because its recognition would necessitate a PERMANENT US Military prresence in the Middle East



Behave yourself , go forth and sin no more/
 
Good lord, that we have a president with this kind of insight is pretty shocking:

Fox New article said:
"Well, I hope there's going to be a deal," Trump said. "I think it's time for a deal, and we'll see what happens. But sometimes they have to fight it out. But we're going to see what happens. I think there's a good chance there will be a deal."


 
Cool, now let's look at the basics:

Naval History and Heritage article said:
The U.S. response was fierce. Operation Praying Mantis was the largest of five major U.S. Navy surface actions since World War II. It was the first, and so far only, time the U.S. Navy has exchanged surface-to-surface missile fire with an enemy, and it resulted in the largest warship sunk by the U.S. Navy since WWII. In the one-day operation, the U.S. Navy destroyed two Iranian surveillance platforms, sank two of their ships, and severely damaged another.
Iran had more than 6 ships, though they did not have a robust navy.
 
October 7 didn't happen in a vacuum, either. And if you really believe Israel is a country promoting peace I'd be glad to recommend they receive a suitable international award for peace. But then how do we erase the recorded history of the 91 dead in the 1946 bombing of the King David Hotel by Irgun whose flag shows an arm holding out a rifle with the saying "always thus" or the destruction and killings of thousands in the 1948 Nakba or the years of ongoing violence and takings of land and water or Gaza yesterday or Iran today. I don't deny the violence of the Palestinians, but as Ben Gurion said in a 1938 speech,
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.”

Pretending other countries are the aggressor, not Israel, simply allows Israel to continue its violence . It doesn't make Israel a country that fosters peace.
That was a powerful quote
 



They're Neo-Colonial Revivalists

Meanwhile there are Neo-Con counterparts in the US.

Trump's calculation -- he's gotten money & support from Adelson and other Israel-aligned wealthy donors in the past. Also, given his latest trade showdown with China has failed, he needs to change to a new script and change the headlines away from the TACO taunts. Middle East war provides a useful opportunity for doing this. The thing is, this war may get out of hand, with fires burning out of control.
Then what's he going to do?

 
That’s not a case for war either. I dunno, let’s bomb them just in case? How did that work out last time?
I'm just curious, but what if the country of Venezuela was actively working on attaining 10 nukes or so.
And what if on top of that Venezuelan government publicly called for the destruction of America.

What do you think Trump (or any other POTUS) proper response should, or would be??

EDIT: this is an open question for any other posters who want to chime in
 
I'm just curious, but what if the country of Venezuela was actively working on attaining 10 nukes or so.
And what if on top of that Venezuelan government publicly called for the destruction of America.

What do you think Trump (or any other POTUS) proper response should, or would be??

EDIT: this is an open question for any other posters who want to chime in
What if wishes were horses?
 
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